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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Somerset => England => Somerset Lookup Requests => Topic started by: bennett on Tuesday 05 August 08 00:58 BST (UK)
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Hi Peeps,
I guess I have been lucky up till now,all certs that I have sent off for have been the correct ones .phew!!!!!! how lucky is that. ::)
This has completely baffled me, :'(
I have asked for help on this family some time ago,
and it seems as if I have followed the wrong path. :-[
How often we hear this,silly me.
To get to the story.
I have a William Webber b.1850.who married Louisa Strong b1854
in c1874.Married in St Decumans.
Saw this info on IGI.All the children listed match my family
who come from
Watchet /Williton,Somerset,.
I was led to believe that William's
parents were
William and Mary Ann Hobbs.
Having obtained the marriage cert
of William and Louisa Strong,
the only one stated on Freebmd,
sent off for the cert,
It came back as the right occupation for her father
Robert Strong (sailor),
but for him his father is listed as a
James Webber,carpenter,and not William,
Their address on the cert,is
Melody Buildings, Taunton.
Haven't heard of this place before. ???
Sorry this is so long winded,but where would I go from here?
The names of the witnesses have been no help either.
James Sharman,and Elizabeth Jones.
I guess there is always a first time for a mystery,
and this is mine.
Hope some kind soul can put me out of my misery. :D
Or a trip to Taunton Record Office, will be on the cards. :'(
Bennett
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Hi Bennett,
Have looked at the IGI-and it seems very shaky, and lots of varying information. If you have your grandmother Elizabeth's birth certificate, and it lists her mother as Louisa Webber nee Strong, then it would seem that YOU have the correct marriage details-so I would work from there. How did you get the age for William ? Have you found William & Louisa in the censuses when they were married (1881-1901) to confirm places and years of birth ?
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Hi haliared,
Thanks for your prompt reply,
yes I do have my grandmothers birth cert,mother Louisa Webber, nee Strong.
My grandmothers father William Webber,was drowned when his ship went down,he was Captain William Webber on board the Kelso ship.
He died just three weeks before my grandmother was born, in January 1883.
This story is also documented in a book called
Tales of Watchet harbour.
I have the death entry from the Marine Register, it gives his age as 28,
on another death entry,it gives his age as 33.
So a difference of 5 years, that can happen,
so that could give his birth as either
1850 or 1855,
his age on the marriage cert is 21.
The date of the marr. is 1873.
I have found Louisa on the 1881 census,but not William he must have been at sea.
But all the children are living with her in Watchet.
Now to find out about James,this is my first brick wall ::)
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Sorry forgot to add,
places of birth,
Watchet/Williton Somerset. ;D
kind regards
Bennett
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Hi Bennett,
That's a real shame about the age as I had a William born in Watchet to a James & Sarah Webber, and the family living in St Decuman in 1861-but he was born 1841 - oh well, will look again ;D
So sad about his drowning, and your poor grandmother who never got to know her dad.
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Hi again Bennett,
Could this be your William in 1871?
RG10/2461/104
Vessels - The Rose of Bristol
With a Captain and Mate and one other Boy-
William Webber, unmarried, male, age 16, rank-boy, born Bridgewater, Somerset
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Hi haliared,
Haven't come across this one before?
Could you give me the names of the others on board please,
it might shed some light. :)
I have noted that this William was born in Bridgewater,and not Watchet though. ::)
In this game anything is possible lol!!!!!!!! ;D
Thanks for your time on this much appreciated. :)
regards
Bennett
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Hi Bennett,
Joseph MAUL, married, male, age 22, Captain, born Wells, Somerset
Alfred John YAMACK (?), single, male, age 21, mate, born Weston Super Mare, Somerset
Edwin BAILEY, single, male, age 15, boy, born Weston Super Mare, Somerset
William WEBBER, single, male, age 16, boy, born Bridgewater, Somerset.
List of all aboard the Vessel named the Rose of Bristol.
In my family, ancestors often said that they came from the nearest big town, which is why I thought that this could just be a possibility for your William, especially as he was a Captain in 1883, which I guessed meant that he went to sea at a young age. Just an idea, if you can't find him elsewhere.
Best wishes, haliared
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Hi haliared,
Thank you once again for the info on the others on board ship.
No name in particular,jumps out at me. ::)
Sometimes shipmates follow each other from ship to ship,thats why I asked.
I come from a long line of seafarers,that is usually the case, but not in this instance :'(
It's always the ones your really looking for.
As I said before this is my very lst brickwall :'(
it had to happen sometime.
Not sure what road to go down now on this one,
will have to get my thinking cap on now, thats for sure ;D
If you can think of anything,I would appreciate it,or if anyone else is reading this.
Thanks again.
Bennett
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Hi Bennett,
Have you followed Louisa forward and backwards through the censuses ? Sometimes you can find other relatives with them (you probably know that already !!! ;D), but that would be my next move. Louisa I think is living with her mum Ann in Watchet, St Decuman in 1871, if I have found the right one, and Robert has died as Ann is a widow. There is a James Webber living in West Street (in the St Decuman parish too), but have followed him through the censuses, and although he has a son William, he is with him, unmarried in 1881, so not your one.
Also, if William was a bachelor when he married, I'll keep going through the 1871 censuses to try to find him!
Sorry I can't be of more help,
haliared
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Hi haliared,
I have followed Louisa through the census,also that her mother Ann was a widow,
I have only recently received the marriage cert of her and William Webber,
shock horror, ::) when his father was listed as James, and not William also. :'(
So obviously have not looked for a James (YET),its annoying that my Ancestry has expired,just when I needed it. :'(
Yes William was stated as being a bachelor on m.cert.
I know his Widow,Louisa had moved to Plymouth by the next census
1891,leaving 3 of her children with relatives in Minehead,and taking the other 2 with her,one of which was my darling grandmother.
t is William that I am really stuck on, as having James listed as his father, ::)
has really thrown a spanner in the works,(so to speak) :P
Thank you for all your help and time on this,so very much appreciated,
your a star. :D
Bennett
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Hi Bennett, I know this is a long shot as your post was 4 years ago! But I think we are related!
I'm a novice at this geneoligy stuff so please bear with me.
Captain William Webber of the Kelso was my greatgrandfather, my grandfather was William Robert Webber, tailor from Minehead.
If it's of interest to you I have an original oil painting of the Kelso, handed down through the family.
Regards
Arrdubya
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Hi Arrdubya,
Oh my word,this is a surprise,a pleasant one at that. ;D
I see this is your first posting,and welcome to Rootschat.
I am not sure if I sent you a private message, you will be able to reply,
I think you have to make three postings.
I will continue on here,until we can make a more private communication.
The information you have put does indeed seem as if we share the same ggrandfather.
Your Grandfather William Robert Webber,and my Grandmother,would have been brother and sister.
How exciting, ;D ;D
cant wait to hear from you.
Kind regards
Bennett
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Hi Bennett, I can't reply to PMs as yet, but I've read them! Yes Hugh W Webber was my father, died in 1997, my mother Margery nee Squire, is still very much with us at nigh on 98 years old. My father's parents were indeed Willam Robert Webber & Jane Graddon Smith of Holloway St. Minehead.
What part of the world are you from? I live in Worcestershire.
Regards
Arrdubya
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Hi Arrdubya,
It is so ironic,that only this week found out about Hugh Webber,being their son,
when I found William and Jane on the 1911 census,there was no children.
So I thought that was another dead end I had come to.
I do know that William,and some of his sisters were split up,
some stayed in Minehead,some came to Devon.
If you can read the private messages,I will send you my direct email address,if thats ok.
This makes us 2nd cousins I guess.
Whooo,Im so excited.
Will message you now,put a post on here,so I know you have received it.
Rootschat has helped me so much with finding my family.
Speak soon.
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taken from the st decumens parish records
james webber occ labourer married sarah webber (yes both webber) on 18th nov 1837 grooms father listed as robert webber labourer and nothing is listed next to brides father
unfortunatley the records for baptism only go up to 1850 on line but showing baptism for-
robert webber bapt 3rd june 1838
amanda webber bapt 6th august 1843
gilbert webber bapt 19th oct 1845 all bapt st decumens watchet
regards
alli
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Thank you Alli for the information, :)
will take another look at the site,there is so much info on there,
might unearth something new. ;D
Kind regards
Bennett