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Title: 1881 Census - ALGAR
Post by: spearhawk on Monday 04 August 08 20:02 BST (UK)
hi to all out there on doing my family tree i have found a robert algar. in the 81 census it says at sea  but below that it says blacksmith and address as howard st  prospect cottages suffolk parish st margaret.s can someone help were do i look to find out more thanks
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 20:13 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Spearhawk.

Can you give us more info about Robert? Age? birthplace? etc

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: pete edwards on Monday 04 August 08 20:23 BST (UK)
Welcome aboard Spearhawk :)

Do you mean

class RG11   piece 1875  folio 78  page  28


Pete   :) :) :)


Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 August 08 20:26 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat

What site are you looking at the census on?

On the image it doesn't say "at sea" -it just says Blacksmith????

Suz
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 20:34 BST (UK)
1871 Census RG10; Piece: 1755; Folio: 30; Page: 18 St Margaret's Ipswich

Robert Algar 54 Head Mar  Diss, Norfolk, England Smith at Foundary
Eliza Algar 50 Wife Mar Hazelwood, Suffolk, England
Kate Algar 20 unm daug Aldringham, Suffolk, England
Caroline Algar 14 unm daug Aldringham, Suffolk, England
Sarah Algar 12 unm daug Aldringham, Suffolk, England

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 August 08 20:37 BST (UK)
address in 1871 is : Whitehorn cott, New Foxhall Rd

1891
3 howard St Ipswich
Robert Algar head M 75  Blacksmith , Diss Norfolk
Eliza ife 70 Leiston Suffolk
RG12 1472 12 17

Suz
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 20:45 BST (UK)
1861 Census RG9; Piece: 1147; Folio: 34; Page: 5 Stowmarket, Suffolk

Robert Alger 47 Head Diss, Norfolk, England - Blacksmith
Eliza Alger 44  Wife Haslewood, Yorkshire, England
Ellen Alger 17  Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England - Domestic Ser
Charles Alger 14  Son Leiston, Suffolk, England - Blacksmith app
Eliza Alger 13  Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England
Caroline Alger 11 Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England
Roseanna Alger 9  Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England
Emily Alger 6  Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England
Catherine Alger 4  Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England
Sarah A Alger 2  Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 August 08 20:53 BST (UK)
ah- I found where the "at sea" comes in

1851 census Robert gives his p.o.b. as "at sea" -but on other census as Diss norfolk

1851
Aldringham Cum Thorpe Suffolk
Robert Alger Head m 36 Blacksmith Journeyman at sea
Eliza wife 32 Hazlewood Suffolk
Ellen daughter 7 Leiston Suffolk
Charles son 4 Leiston Suffolk
Eliza daughter 2 Aldringham Suffolk
Catherine daughter 3 mths  Aldringham Suffolk
Catherine Lyon Mother in la W 66 Nurse domestic leiston Suffolk
HO107 1803 page 1

1861 address given as "California , Stowmarket"

Suz
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 20:53 BST (UK)
1851 Census Aldringham Cum Thorpe - HO107; Piece: 1803; Folio: Page: 1

Robert Algar 36 Mar Head At Sea - Blacksmith Journeyman
Eliza Algar 32 Mar Hazlewood, Suffolk, England
Ellen Algar 7 Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England
Charles Algar 4 Son Leiston, Suffolk, England
Eliza Algar 2 Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England
Catherine Algar 3mns Daug Leiston, Suffolk, England
Catherine Lion 66 mother-in-law Leiston, Suffolk, England - Nurse domestic

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 20:59 BST (UK)
Marriage:

4Q 1839  Blything, Suffolk  Vol: 13 Page: 943

Robert Algar and Eliza Lyon

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 21:05 BST (UK)
Catherine Lions - mother of Eliza Algar nee Lyons -

Death registration
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1778
Registration: 1866
Age at Death: 88
District: 1Q Ipswich Suffolk Vol: 4a Pg: 407

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 21:17 BST (UK)
Eliza Lyon born Aldeburgh with Hazlewood, Suffolk
 
Christening:  24 January 1819  Suffolk County Bts, Suffolk

Father John Lyon    Mother Catherine

Laurina
 
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 21:21 BST (UK)
Possible Marriage for Eliza's parents   M131631  1818  0952327   

John Lion to Katherine Kemp on 3rd Feb 1818 at Aldeburgh with Hazlewood, Suffolk

Laurina
 
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: pete edwards on Monday 04 August 08 21:24 BST (UK)
ELIZA LYON

Birth

Aldeburgh with hazelwood  Suffolk  England

Christning 

24/Jan/1819  Suffolk county  bts  Suffolk England

Father   John   Lyon

Mother  Catherine


Pete :)
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: pete edwards on Monday 04 August 08 21:25 BST (UK)
Beat me to it :)

Pete :)
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 21:27 BST (UK)
1861 Census RG9; Piece: 1178; Folio: 100; Page: 30 - Catherine Lyon is living alone and a widow

Catherine Lyon wid 75 Leiston, Suffolk, England

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 21:29 BST (UK)
May look as tho I'm snoozing but I'm quick!

Laurina  ;D
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 21:35 BST (UK)
Anything else you want help with Spearhawk?

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: spearhawk on Monday 04 August 08 22:36 BST (UK)
thanks for the help it was diss norfolk. were would i go to find out more about the  blacksmith part thanks again for all your help
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: spearhawk on Monday 04 August 08 22:44 BST (UK)
also LAURINA   HASLEWOOD  FOR BIRTH PLACE
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: spearhawk on Monday 04 August 08 22:48 BST (UK)
SORRY  COMPUTER SENT POST BEFORE I FINISH THEM  ok laurina you say haslewood for the birth place for his wife and suzard says  leisted the same as me could you tell which is right :-\
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 22:56 BST (UK)
Spearhawk

I can only tell you what the census says in any particular year. In 1861 it says Eliza was born in Hazelwood in Yorkshire - but this is unlikely to be correct judging by the other census' as Hazelwood is in Suffolk. It also spells the surname ALGER instead of ALGAR- again a simple name variation as the family members all fit what we know from other census.

Her birth is recorded as Aldeburgh with Hazelwood  Suffolk  England - you can check out the birth on www.familysearch.org Check the census for yourself at www.ancestry.co.uk

Hazelwood, Suffolk - Situated about 5 miles to the southeast of Saxmundham and 1 mile northwest of Aldeburgh. The old parish of Hazelwood is now incorporated into Aldeburgh.

Leiston, Suffolk is situated about 3 to 7 miles to the east of Saxmundham and 3 to 5 miles north of Aldeburgh.

Both places seem fairly close together.

Laurina
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 04 August 08 23:10 BST (UK)
All the locations given are within the same area of Suffolk

Haselwood is a parish without a church, in the mid 1800s only 108 people were living there.

There was a church there at one time, but it fell into ruin several centuries ago.

Parish Records for Haselwood are with those for Aldeburgh St Peter and St Paul.

You can check out all of the parish churches at Simon's www.suffolkchurches.co.uk

Leiston is a small town and as blacksmiths were needed at the Garrett's factory, perhaps your man found daily work there.

We have friends who live at the old blacksmiths in Aldringham .

In St Margaret's parish in Ipswich you will find Old Foundry Road - will check with husband to find out which of the foundries was there.

SM ...
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 04 August 08 23:11 BST (UK)
Oooops!
Apologies Laurina, I think we were typing similar replies at the same time  ;)

SM ...
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Laurina on Monday 04 August 08 23:14 BST (UK)
Glad you dropped in suffolkmawther .... you've clearly got greater local knowledge than I have.

Laurina  :)
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 04 August 08 23:16 BST (UK)
Dew Oi live jest down the road, but my husband he dew come from around those parts.

Ode Mawther ...

Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: spearhawk on Tuesday 05 August 08 09:33 BST (UK)
its a BIG THANKS to you guys out there  laurina and suzard have been a great help.i hope someday i can return the favour to you  also thanks suffolkmawther if you do find out about the blacksmith part i would be greatfull.  im off to the essex reg office on thursday should be good  only the second time, but someone needs somethink looked up and i can help please let me know
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: harrywrag on Tuesday 05 August 08 15:37 BST (UK)
hi spearhawk,  there is a church at leiston called st.margarets i payed a visit there a few weeks ago also near the site where garretts factory was part of it now a museum called the longshop museum there is also a street called prospect place in leiston dont know if this is of any help.  kind regards  harrywrag
Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Tuesday 05 August 08 15:49 BST (UK)
http://www.longshop.care4free.net/

Is the fledgling web site for the Long Shop Museum (housed in the workshops of Garrett's of Leiston.
Major employer in the area making steam and traction engines.

Just finished reading a great book about the Garrett girls - just as enterprising as the lads - think Elizabeth Garrett Anderson and Millicent (Garrett) Fawcett.

http://www.senseofplacesuffolk.co.uk/

Is the web site with photographs of Suffolk history.  I went to a meeting towards the end of last year and this web site is due to be completely overhauled and hopefuly made more user friendly, with lots more resources being added too.

If you click on search and enter Garrett's and links to 29 photographs come up.

Pat ...


Title: Re: new to the site
Post by: spearhawk on Tuesday 05 August 08 16:36 BST (UK)
thanks HARRYWRAG  robert algar lived in prospect cottages. :)

SUFFOLKMAWTHER  you have been a great help im going to look at the site tonight when i get home :)