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My great great great grandfather was John Macrae b. c 1811 in Gairloch, R & C , and died 27 March 1866 in Melvaig. He married Isabella (or Isabel) Mackenzie on 21 December 1837. Their children were Donald b. c 1838, Alexander b. c 1840, Ann b. c 1846 m William Chisholm, Mary b.c 1848 m Roderick Munro, and Kenneth b. c 1852.
I would be grateful to hear from anyone who has any further information or is related in any way. I am also interested in furthering my search of the Chisholm and Munro connection.
Many thanks Traffy
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Hi Traffy
Welcome to Rootschat :)
One of the first things that I would do if I were you is to obtain a copy of John's death certificate which would give his parents names.
This can be obtained by searching the Scotland's People site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It's pay to view but very reasonable. For example, the certificate would cost 1 unit for the index search and 5 units for the certificate image which you can download. A unit is 20p. These units are bought in batches of 30 units each (30 60 90 120, etc)
Also it would be worth looking for the family on the censuses. Do you have access to these?
More details about doing Scottish research is given here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
Best regards
GAdget :)
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My great great great grandfather was John Macrae b. c 1811 in Gairloch, R & C , and died 27 March 1866 in Melvaig. He married Isabella (or Isabel) Mackenzie on 21 December 1837. Their children were Donald b. c 1838, Alexander b. c 1840, Ann b. c 1846 m William Chisholm, Mary b.c 1848 m Roderick Munro, and Kenneth b. c 1852.
1841 Census
R & C Gairloch
Melvaig
John McRae age 35 occ: Tenant
Isabel McRae age 30
Donald McRae age 3
Alexander McRae age 1
Elizabeth McKenzie age 19 female servant
(perhaps sister to Isabel?)
Terry
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To Terry and Gadget
Thank you so much for replying so quickly! :)
I seem to have a mound of information, most of which passed down to me by my dad. Sometimes it is a little difficult to follow, but I will check out some of the details I have and post again as soon as possible.
Traffy
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Hi
Family search gives an Anne Macrae m William Chisholm 5/3/1868 at Gairloch.
John Chisholm b 11/1/1869 Gairloch
Kenneth Chisholm b 28/11/1870 Gairloch
Margaret Chisholm b 17/6/1873 Girloch
Mary Macrae m Roderick Munro 23/2/1871 Gairloch
Terry
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Mary b.c 1848 m Roderick Munro,
Hi Traffy,
This may be Roderick in 1851 interestingly there is an Alexander Mcrae (servant) to this family of Munro's.
1851 Cove, Gairloch, R&C
Angus MUNRO Head M M 74 Free Church Catechist &lotter
Ann MUNRO Wife M F 30 Catechist's Wife
Roderick MUNRO Son U M 5 Catechist's Son
Angus MUNRO Son U M 2 Catechist's Son
Ann MACLEOD Servt U F 10 Catechist's Servant
Mary MUNRO Servt U F 15 Catechist's Servant
John MUNRO Son U M 1m Catechist's Son
Alexander MCRAE Servt U M 27 Catechist's Servant b Gairloch
Terry
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Hi:
I have just started to chase up the Chisholms of Melvaig/Aultgrishan. I hope you find the following information (in 3 parts!) useful.
Descendants of John Chisholm (Part 1)
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN1 CHISHOLM was born Abt. 1796 in Melvaig, Rossshire. He married MARGARET MACKENZIE February 14, 1831 in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty. She was born Abt. 1811 in Melvaig, Rossshire.
Notes for JOHN CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
John Chisholm, 40, b. Ross and Cromarty, Tenant
Margaret Chisholm, 35, b. Ross and Cromarty
Janet Chisholm, 15, b. Ross and Cromarty
Alexr Chisholm, 8, b. Ross and Cromarty
Rodk Chisholm, 3, b. Ross and Cromarty
CENSUS DETAILS - April 7, 1861 - Lot 27, Melvaig, Rossshire (2 rooms with 1 or more windows)
John Chisholm, Head, Mar., 61, b. Gairloch, Rossshire, Crofter
Margaret Chisholm, Wife, Mar., 46, b. Gairloch, Rossshire, Crofter's Wife
Alexr Chisholm, Son, Unmar., 27, b. Gairloch, Rossshire, Fisherman
William Chisholm, Son, Unmar., 20, b. Gairloch, Rossshire, Labourer
Kenneth Chisholm, Son, Unmar., 16, b. Gairloch, Rossshire, Herd
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire (2 rooms with 1 or more windows)
John Chisholm, Head, Mar., 75, b. Melvaig, Rossshire, Crofter and Fisherman
Margaret Chisholm, Wife, Mar., 60, b. Melvaig, Rossshire
Roderick Chisholm, Son, Mar., 30, b. Melvaig, Rossshire, Fisherman
Kenneth Chisholm, Son, Unmar., 26, b. Melvaig, Rossshire, Fisherman
Kate Chisholm, Daur-in-law, Mar., 22, b. Altgrishan, Rossshire, Fisherman's Wife
Alexander Chisholm, Grandson, 2 mth, b. Melvaig, Rossshire
Notes for MARGARET MACKENZIE:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John Chisholm, spouse)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 7, 1861 - Lot 27, Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, spouse)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, spouse)
Children of JOHN CHISHOLM and MARGARET MACKENZIE are:
i. ALEXANDER2 CHISHOLM, b. January 31, 1832, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty; m. JANET MCLEAN, February 13, 1862, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty; b. March 1833, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for ALEXANDER CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 7, 1861 - Lot 27, Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, father)
ii. KENNETH CHISHOLM, b. September 04, 1834.
2. iii. RODERICK CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1838, Melvaig, Rossshire.
3. iv. WILLIAM CHISHOLM, b. Abt. November 24, 1841, Melvaig, Rossshire.
4. v. KENNETH CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1845, Melvaig, Rossshire.
Generation No. 2
2. RODERICK2 CHISHOLM (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1838 in Melvaig, Rossshire. He married CATHERINE MACRAE January 20, 1870 in Free Church, Gairloch, daughter of ALEXANDER MACRAE and HELEN MACLEAN; ALEXANDER MACRAE married HELEN MACLEAN February 04, 1848 in Poolewe, Ross and Cromarty. CATHERINE MACRAE was born Abt. 1849 in Altgrishan, Rossshire.
Notes for RODERICK CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 3, 1881 - Hamlet of Melvaig, Rossshire (1 room with 1 or more windows)
Rodk. Chisholm, Head, Mar., 40, b. Melvaig, Rossshire, Fisherman
Catherine Chisholm, Wife, Mar., 30, b. Melvaig, Rossshire
Alex. Chisholm, Son, 10, b. Melvaig, Rossshire, Scholar
Willm. Chisholm, Son, 8, b. Melvaig, Rossshire, Scholar
Margt. Chisholm, Daur., 5, b. Melvaig, Rossshire
Mary Chisholm, Daur., 3, b. Melvaig, Rossshire
Notes for CATHERINE MACRAE:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, father-in-law)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 3, 1881 - Hamlet of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see Roderick Chisholm, spouse)
Marriage Notes for RODERICK CHISHOLM and CATHERINE MACRAE:
MARRIAGE REGISTRATION
Southern District of Gairloch, County of Ross 2/1870
Date & place: January 20, 1870 Free Church, Gairloch
Address: Lot 27, Melvaig
Age & occupation: 30, Fisherman
Parents: John Chisholm, Crofter; Margaret Chisholm (M.S. MacKenzie)
SPOUSE: Kate Macrae
Address: Lot 3, Altgrishan
Age & occupation: 21, Domestic Servant
Parents: Alexander Macrae, Crofter; Helen Macrae (M.S. Maclean)
Witnesses: William Urquhart; John ______
Children of RODERICK CHISHOLM and CATHERINE MACRAE are:
i. ALEXANDER3 CHISHOLM, b. January 07, 1871, Melvaig, Rossshire.
Notes for ALEXANDER CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, grandfather)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 3, 1881 - Hamlet of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see Roderick Chisholm, father)
ii. WILLIAM CHISHOLM, b. March 11, 1872, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for WILLIAM CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 3, 1881 - Hamlet of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see Roderick Chisholm, father)
iii. MARGARET CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1876, Melvaig, Rossshire.
Notes for MARGARET CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 3, 1881 - Hamlet of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see Roderick Chisholm, father)
iv. MARY CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1878, Melvaig, Rossshire.
Notes for MARY CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 3, 1881 - Hamlet of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see Roderick Chisholm, father)
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Part 2 (it would now appear that this reply will require an additional entry!):
3. WILLIAM2 CHISHOLM (JOHN1) was born Abt. November 24, 1841 in Melvaig, Rossshire. He married ANN MACRAE March 05, 1868 in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty, daughter of JOHN MACRAE and ISABELLA MACKENZIE. She was born Abt. 1846 in Melvaig, Rossshire.
Notes for WILLIAM CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 7, 1861 - Lot 27, Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
William Chisholm, Head, Mar., 28, b. Melvaig, Rossshire, Fisherman
Ann Chisholm, Wife, Mar., 23, b. Melvaig, Rossshire
John Chisholm, Son, 2, b. Melvaig, Rossshire
Kenneth Chisholm, Son, 3 mon, b. Melvaig, Rossshire
William Chisholm's age appears to be in error. According to the IGI, he was born about November 24, 1841 and hence, on April 2, 1871, he would have been 29.
Ann Chisholm's age may also be in error. According to the Marriage Certificate of William and Ann, she was 22 on March 5, 1868 and hence, on April 2, 1871, she would have been 25.
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
William Chisholm, Head, Mar., 35, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty, Crofter (Of 4 Acres)
Ann Chisholm, Wife, Mar., 32, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty
John Chisholm, Son, 12, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty, Scholar
Kenneth Chisholm, Son, 10, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty, Scholar
Margaret Chisholm, Dau., 7, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty, Scholar
Mary Chisholm, Dau., 6, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty
Donald Chisholm, Son, 2, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty
Alexr. Chisholm, Son, 4 m, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty
Elizabeth MacRae, Aunt, Widowed, 64, b. Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty
More About WILLIAM CHISHOLM:
Christening: November 24, 1841, Melvaig, Rossshire
Notes for ANN MACRAE:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see William Chisholm, spouse)
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see William Chisholm, spouse)
Marriage Notes for WILLIAM CHISHOLM and ANN MACRAE:
MARRIAGE REGISTRATION
Southern District of Gairloch, County of Ross 12/1868
Date & place: March 5, 1868 Gairloch
Address: Lot 27, Melvaig
Age & occupation: 25, Fisherman
Parents: John Chisholm, Crofter; Margaret Chisholm (M.S. MacKenzie)
SPOUSE: Ann Macrae
Address: Lot 13, Melvaig
Age & occupation: 22, Domestic Servant
Parents: John Macrae, Crofter (dec.); Isabella Macrae (M.S. MacKenzie)
Witnesses: Alex. MacKenzie; Roderick Chisholm
William Chisholm's age appears to be in error. According to the IGI, he was born about November 24, 1841 and hence, on March 5, 1868, he would have been 26.
On the marriage certificate, "John Chisholm, Crofter" is followed by "(deceased)" with a line through it indicating, in keeping with the Marriage Certificate (1870) of his brother, Roderick, and the 1871 Census, that John Chisholm was alive and well in 1868.
Children of WILLIAM CHISHOLM and ANN MACRAE are:
i. JOHN3 CHISHOLM, b. January 11, 1869, Melvaig, Rossshire.
Notes for JOHN CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see William Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see William Chisholm, father)
ii. KENNETH CHISHOLM, b. November 28, 1870, Melvaig, Rossshire.
Notes for KENNETH CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see William Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see William Chisholm, father)
iii. MARGARET CHISHOLM, b. June 17, 1873, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for MARGARET CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see William Chisholm, father)
iv. MARY CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1874, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for MARY CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see William Chisholm, father)
v. DONALD CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1878, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for DONALD CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see William Chisholm, father)
vi. ALEXANDER CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1880, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for ALEXANDER CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see William Chisholm, father)
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Part 3:
4. KENNETH2 CHISHOLM (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1845 in Melvaig, Rossshire. He married ISABELLA MCKENZIE November 22, 1876 in Kinnettas Parish of Fodderty, Ross and Cromarty, daughter of MURDOCH MCKENZIE and ANNABELLA MCRAE. She was born Abt. 1845 in Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for KENNETH CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - April 7, 1861 - Lot 27, Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 2, 1871 - Lot 27, Township of Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
Kenneth Chisholm, Head, Mar., 35, b. Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty, Fisherman
Isabella Chisholm, Wife, Mar., 35, b. Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
Hector Chisholm, Son, 3, b. Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
John Chisholm, Son, 1, b. Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
Notes for ISABELLA MCKENZIE:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see Kenneth Chisholm, spouse)
Marriage Notes for KENNETH CHISHOLM and ISABELLA MCKENZIE:
MARRIAGE REGISTRATION (First Cousins)
District of Fodderty, Counties of Ross and Cromarty 5/1876
Date & place: November 22, 1876 Kinnettas Parish of Fodderty
Address: Melvaig, Gairloch
Age & occupation: 30, Fisherman
Parents: John Chisholm, Crofter; Margaret Chisholm (M.S. McKenzie)
SPOUSE: Isabella McKenzie
Address: Kinnettas, Fodderty
Age & occupation: 30, Farm Worker
Parents: Murdoch McKenzie, Crofter; Annabella McKenzie (M.S. McRae)
Witnesses: John McKenzie; William McKenzie
Children of KENNETH CHISHOLM and ISABELLA MCKENZIE are:
i. HECTOR3 CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1878, Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for HECTOR CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see Kenneth Chisholm, father)
ii. JOHN CHISHOLM, b. Abt. 1880, Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for JOHN CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1881 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see Kenneth Chisholm, father)
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Part 4:
Descendants of John MacRae
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN1 MACRAE was born 1806 in Ross and Cromarty. He married ISABELLA MACKENZIE December 21, 1837 in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty. She was born Abt. 1811 in Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for JOHN MACRAE:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
John McRae, 35, b. Ross and Cromarty, Tenant
Isabel McRae, 30, b. Ross and Cromarty
Donald McRae, 3, b. Ross and Cromarty
Alexr McRae, 1, b. Ross and Cromarty
Elizabeth McKenzie, 19, b. Ross and Cromarty, Female Servant
Notes for ISABELLA MACKENZIE:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John MacRae, spouse)
Children of JOHN MACRAE and ISABELLA MACKENZIE are:
i. DONALD2 MACRAE, b. 1838, Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for DONALD MACRAE:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John MacRae, father)
ii. ALEXANDER MACRAE, b. 1840, Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for ALEXANDER MACRAE:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John MacRae, father)
2. iii. ANN MACRAE, b. Abt. 1846, Melvaig, Rossshire.
Generation No. 2
2. ANN2 MACRAE (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1846 in Melvaig, Rossshire. She married WILLIAM CHISHOLM March 05, 1868 in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty, son of JOHN CHISHOLM and MARGARET MACKENZIE. He was born Abt. November 24, 1841 in Melvaig, Rossshire.
Descendants of John McLean
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN1 MCLEAN was born Abt. 1789 in Ross and Cromarty. He married JANET MCLEAN March 23, 1822 in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty. She was born Abt. 1798 in Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for JOHN MCLEAN:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
John McLean, 52, b. Ross and Cromarty, Woolen Hand Loom Weaver
Janet McLean, 43, b. Ross and Cromarty
John McLean, 19, b. Ross and Cromarty
Christy McLean, 15, b. Ross and Cromarty
Margaret McLean, 13, b. Ross and Cromarty
Janet McLean, 11, b. Ross and Cromarty
Murdo McLean, 7, b. Ross and Cromarty
Janet McLean, 1, b. Ross and Cromarty
Catherine McLean, 40, b. Ross and Cromarty, Sister
Notes for JANET MCLEAN:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John McLean, spouse)
Children of JOHN MCLEAN and JANET MCLEAN are:
i. JOHN2 MCLEAN, b. Abt. January 11, 1823, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for JOHN MCLEAN:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John McLean, father)
ii. CHRISTY MCLEAN, b. Abt. 1826, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for CHRISTY MCLEAN:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John McLean, father)
iii. MARGARET MCLEAN, b. Abt. June 10, 1830, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for MARGARET MCLEAN:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John McLean, father)
More About MARGARET MCLEAN:
Christening: June 10, 1830, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty
iv. JANET MCLEAN, b. March 1833, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty; m. ALEXANDER CHISHOLM, February 13, 1862, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty; b. January 31, 1832, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for ALEXANDER CHISHOLM:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John Chisholm, father)
CENSUS DETAILS - April 7, 1861 - Lot 27, Melvaig, Rossshire
(see John Chisholm, father)
v. MURDO MCLEAN, b. Abt. 1834, Ross and Cromarty.
Notes for MURDO MCLEAN:
CENSUS DETAILS - 1841 - Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty
(see John McLean, father)
Descendants of Murdoch McKenzie
Generation No. 1
1. MURDOCH1 MCKENZIE He married ANNABELLA MCRAE January 24, 1834 in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Marriage Notes for MURDOCH MCKENZIE and ANNABELLA MCRAE:
IGI gives Murdoch McKenzie marrying Annabell McRae on January 24, 1834 and Murdoch McKenzie marrying Annabella McRae on February 6, 1834, both in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
Child of MURDOCH MCKENZIE and ANNABELLA MCRAE is:
2. i. ISABELLA2 MCKENZIE, b. Abt. 1845, Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty.
Generation No. 2
2. ISABELLA2 MCKENZIE (MURDOCH1) was born Abt. 1845 in Melvaig, Ross and Cromarty. She married KENNETH CHISHOLM November 22, 1876 in Kinnettas Parish of Fodderty, Ross and Cromarty, son of JOHN CHISHOLM and MARGARET MACKENZIE. He was born Abt. 1845 in Melvaig, Rossshire.
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Hi was looking through old posts and found this.
The Chisholm family you have just posted is my family which is all correct, my dilemma is from John back.
I have John,s death certificate which states his parent's were Alexander Chisholm and Mary MacRae I have been stuck at these two for a couple of years as Alexander was a common name. I have looked at the rent records in Gairloch, and Melvaig was rented to a MacRea so the rent was just a single figure and not individually in house and name.
My problem is i have no idea where the Chisholm family lived before moving to Melvaig any help would be appreciated