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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: sam wildman on Friday 01 August 08 10:57 BST (UK)
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as you may allready of read i have had to change my user name from Samantha Zoe to SAM wildman. i am still looking for information on the pearants of Mary blanch Clark her mothers name was b Clark i have no maiden name as yet they lived in London in highbury
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dates?
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well doreen was born 1931 and i have no ider how old mary was when she had doreen as her mother b clarker singed the bith certifieat thats how i got her name so 1931 back
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where does Doreen fit in ;D ;D
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she is mary blanch clarks daughter we have no farther for her but all her dates and info
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oh, right - mea culpa - obvious now :P
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So .... there is a Doreen born 1931 whose mum is Mary Blanch Clark, yes? (how is thatknown?) and Mary Blanch's mum is B. Clerker (how is that known?).... and you are saying that B. Clerker signed Doreen's birth cert??
In what capacity? who is Doreen's mum given as on her cert?
This is all too vague to get anywhere, especially with a name like Clark/Clerk!
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Here's the previous posting about this Clark family.
It gives a bit more info about Doreen.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,196911.0.html
Carol
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yes i know i posted it as i said before i had to change my user name due to log in problems
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Are you sure Mary Blanche's surname is Clarker instead of Clarke, Sam? The index says Clarke ... looks like she was unmarried, doesn't it?
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Mary blanch was but I'm trying to trace her pearants i know this as it also says that Doreen was born in a womans and children's hospital
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clark on one thing claker on anthoer
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It's going to be hard to go back a generation and trace Mary Blanch Clark(e)(r) parents when no information has been found about her.
Slow down and go one step at a time!
What exactly does Doreen's birth cert say? Does it stipulate the B Clerker is actually granny? If Mary B died at the birth, for example, maybe it is just a worker at the mum and baby home? Do you know what happened to Mary B after Doreen's birth? Why didnt she register the birth herself? any clues on the birth cert? could she have died in childbirth? could Doreen have been taken from her at birth for adoption, and registered by a "social worker" - do you know what happened to Doreen?
Lots to sort out on Doreen and MAry B before even attempting to go back further!
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On the other thread you say
thanks for that i my have found her will let you know later
regards SAM
Ever found out? I can't see any birth for a Mary Blanche Clark* on FreeBMD :-\
Did she marry later on? Also, any idea when she died? (The death registration should show her birth date or at least her age at death)
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all i know on Mary blanch is what i was told by Doreen but I'm not sure how accurate it is as she was getting on when i spoke to her she said her mum was born about 1911 i assume London but i think she may have been much younger than 20 when she had Doreen and yes she did get married later to William kingston i have no date for this and she also said her mum died 12 APR 1970/72 but as i said not sure how much of this is reliable
SAM
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Well, was she Blanche Mary instead of Mary Blanche by any chance? Did she die in Northampton?
There's this death:
June quarter 1971, Northampton 3b 1458
Blanche Mary Kingston, birth date 27 Sep 1911
Could you tell us the exact phrasing of Doreen's birth cert? Does it say grandmother for B Clarke/r? ???
FreeBMD shows several possible Blanche M Clark(e)
For instance:
Blanche M Clark Sep 1911
mother's maiden name: Street
Barnet 3a 865
Did Blanche have siblings? There are other children registered in Barnet with mother named Street: George T in 1913, Olive G in 1918
If you could narrow down the date she married William Kingston, you could purchase her marriage certificate to discover the name of her father.
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section 7 signature,description and residence of informant b clarker mother 22 highbury quadrent highbury
section 5 name ,surname and maiden name of mother Mary blanch clarker of same address
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section 7 signature,description and residence of informant b clarker mother 22 highbury quadrent highbury
section 5 name ,surname and maiden name of mother Mary blanch clarker of same address
Section 7 -B Clarker MOTHER means mother of the baby NOT mother of the mum.
And I presume where it says Father- it is blank or has a line through- yes?
It sounds very much as though Doreens mum was called Mary Blanche Clarke(r) but used to call herself Blanche and therefore signed the cert as such.
Any chance you could post a section of the cert on Rootschat so we can all see it?
Maybe on a Common Room board if you can't do it here,but add a link to this posting please.If you are not sure how to do that PM me and you can send it to me to do it for you.
Carol
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Marriage
Jan/Feb/mar 1935
Buckingham reg district
ref 3a 1882
William Kingston
Blanche M Clarke
Sorted!
Getting marriage cert will give her father's name and occupation, and her age at marriage.
Birth cert that Tati found can then be bought (if age ties up) which will give both parents - if father's name and occupation tie up, then you have found her! (mums maiden name Street, plus found some siblings, see details earlier)
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Well done, Liz! 8)
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no section 7 is were the mother of the child should of singed witch is why i think she was under 20 when she had Doreen but she didn't
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no section 7 is were the mother of the child should of singed witch is why i think she was under 20 when she had Doreen but she didn't
What makes you say she didn't sign (and conclude it was her own mother who signed!!) after saying this
section 7 signature,description and residence of informant b clarker mother 22 highbury quadrent highbury
??? ???
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Hi All
Sam has sent me the cert ,and it is indeed what we had suspected.
Mothers name is Mary Blanche Clarke but she signs B Clarke(maybe she never used the Mary bit?) and again as thought ,no fathers name on the cert.
I am hoping to attach a section of it here,so we can all see what a flamboyant writer the registrar was and how he finishes each word off with a flourish that makes it look like it ends with a letter r ::)
Blanche(r) CLarke(r) and even Quadrant(r) ;D ;D ;D
Well done Liz,so Sam is really motoring now,if you get that marriage cert Sam,we'll be able to help you find all about Mary Blanche CLARKE.
Carol
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I'm glad someone could under stand that it been a puzzle for months now and thanks all :D
SAM
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I see a second possible birth registration for Blanche - probably more likely, now we know she married in Buckingham. Also, it was registered in the December quarter 1911 (covering Oct, Nov, Dec), which may be more likely than the September quarter for a 27th Sep birth:
Blanche M Clarke
Dec 1911
Mother's Maiden Name Clarke
Buckingham 3a 1862
:)
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ok will have a loOK
and thanks again
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found she changed her first names round
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i got her marriage cer and found she moved her first names around her farthers name is william ernast clarke and mothers name lizzie clarke yes clarke is the mothers madien name as from blanches marriage i found her birth and got that cer so now pulling bricks out slowly thanks for all the help sorry i not got back sooner but been busey with kids and moveing and just sorting stuff out