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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: cornishpasty on Tuesday 29 July 08 11:08 BST (UK)
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I've just found out that my maternal grandmother's name is Annie Maria BARRABLE and I always thought it was EDWARDS. ;D She has been my brickwall forever and last night I received a copy of her marriage certificate. I almost fell off my chair and then I couldn't see the keyboard for the tears. It was sent to me by someone who just happened to have it in her database of BROPHYs.
She is listed on her marriage certificate as being 20 yrs. and her husband, James Henry BROPHY as full age. They were married in Port Elizabeth, South Africa on 28 May 1901.
Before I start the big "hunt", does this name ring a ding dong with any other RC member?
Also, where should I start looking for her ancestors, South Africa or the UK (and which part ::)).
Can anyone out there shed some light on the origin of this surname, please, pretty please? ;D
CP
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Hi CP,
Great news for you! It is always so exciting to find something so significant.
There seemed to have been a number of BARRABLE families in the Eastern Cape in the mid to late 1800's.
One William BARRABLE married to Mary Ann FLOOKS. This family is being researched by Sharon Marshall (google her name and rootsweb to find her email)
Another BARRABLE fellow is detailed in The Family Register of the South African Nation :
David Solomon BARRABLE b. 9 May 1835 Essex, England. Arrived in the Port Elizabeth in 1847 and he seemed to have lived in Grahamstown and later Queenstown, where he became a prominent and active member of the community. He was married to Elizabeth Annie ALLISON 19 July 1864. He died on 22 May 1912 at the age of 77.
Although a further search suggests that your Annie Maria couldn't be this couple's child ... they had a daughter named Lizzie Gladys BARRABLE born May 1881 (same year as Annie Maria)
There is also a Thomas BARRABLE, married to Margaret ? This couple had children christened in Fort Beaufort and King Williams Town. The following childrens' christenings have been transcribed and uploaded to the mailing lists :
Melletta Jane BARRABLE Born: 18 Oct 1872
Thomas Guilford Hood BARRABLE Born : 1870
Mary Harriett BARRABLE Born : 20 Aub 1876
Ellen Stanton's transcriptions offer up another BARRABLE :
Husband: John BARRABLE, Full, Bachelor, Printer, residing Queenstown
Wife: Harriet Matilda FRANK, Full, Spinster, residing Queenstown
Date: 11/20/1872
Witnesses: John A. ULYATE, Lucy STILWELL
From the following record transcribed by Ellen, Harriet Matilda seems to have re-married in 1883, suggesting that John BARRABLE had died
Husband: Arthur BEAMISH, Full, Bachelor, residing Queenstown
Wife: Harriet Matilda BARRABLE, Full, Widow, residing Queenstown
Date: 6/5/1883
Witnesses: G. STILWELL, Emilie STILWELL
Minister: J. E. PARSONSON
Minister: W. B. RAYNER
There are also a number of BARRABLE death notices/estate files detailed on the NAAIRS. These images could be ordered.
I do hope you can make some sense of the above. I'd definately suggest contacting Sharon.
best wishes
Leanne
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Hi Leanne,
Thanks for your response and for all the information too. That's given me something to work on. I am so grateful for your help.
I tried NAAIRS but they must have been working on the site because I couldn't gain access. I will definitely have another look over the weekend and see what I can find.
I will email Sharon M. from Rootsweb as I am sure there has to be a connection to the FLOOKS name. I have also received 2 replies from people at Ancestry regarding the BARRABLE and FLOOKS names and also another who has a BARRABLE connection to the name KEMP.
I will also email Ellen S. as she is one terrific lady when it comes to help. Just like our RC members, always willing to bend over backwards to help people.
Once again, many, many thanks for your help and your input.
Regards
CP
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Hi
Just stumbled apon your post. My name is Tim Barrable and I'm from the UK but now live in New Zealand
I have done some research on the Barrable name and it's posted at the 'Barrable Family' group on Facebook.
Good luck in your search. WE have traced back most Barrables to 15th Century Cornwall and the SA branch to a Capt Barrable in the British Army at the time of the Boer War.
:)
Cheers, Tim
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Hi Corny
Just to say its GREAT to see you back online
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Daizi
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Hi Corny
On findmypast passenger lists, there is a few Barrable going to SA , one caught my eye, a female (no initial) Barrable, landing in Port Elizabeth in 1900 ?? Maybe, any way is a few Barrables going to the Cape also
Daizi
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Hi there,
Here is a link to the meaning of the name Barrable:
http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Barrable
Best Wishes
Chris Barrable
England ::)
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If you go to http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Barrable
You will find a definition of our name
Regards
Chris
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Hi Daizi me bestest mate ;D ;D,
Great chatting on the phone tonight. Thanks for that information. Sure sounds like it could be my Grandma, as she was married in 1901 in P.E. Here's hoping ... ;) It sure IS great being back online again and getting stuck into my Family History.
Hugs
Corny
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Hi Tim,
Thanks for your message. Sounds like you have been a busy boy. I will check Facebook and join your Group. I hope there is a link.
CP
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Hi RuffFinesse
Thanks very much for those links. Are you also on the Facebook Barrable Family Group that Timbo mentioned? I would like to keep in touch so that we can compare details.
CP
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Hi there I'm a BARRABLE too and have a cousin who has traced us back to Cornwall and the 1600's. Always keen to know and share more, what would you like to know?
How about this? Spanish Jews escaping the Inquisition got shipwrecked - In Cornwall!
Barrable means Son of Abel, hence Barrabel, which is still a name in Spain!
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Hi Roger and thanks for your message. Welcome to Rootschat!
I have heard about the Spanish Barrables arriving in Cornwall.
My problem is that I don't know where my grandmother was born and I don't know the names of her parents either so I can't apply for a birth certificate until I have some idea of where she was born (but from the marriage certificate it seems she was born about 1881). My mother had told me (many moons ago) that my grandmother came from Wales but never said where in Wales. I was too young at the time to think about genealogy etc., so didn't pursue it. However, my mother gave me a photo of Annie Maria BARRABLE and a photo of Annie's mother and Annie's mother's photo was taken in Penzance, Cornwall but no names on the back. Mum also mentioned a "Miss Edwards" and I am now assuming that she was talking about the mother of Annie. I can't obtain a death certificate either for Annie Maria BARRABLE because I'm not sure, where in South Africa, she died. I do, however, have a copy of Annie Maria's marriage certificate. So I'm stumped and don't know how to move forward to find the rest of the BARRABLE clan.
I have had a photo sleuth take a look at both photos and he told me that he doubts the nameless one is my grandmother's mother. He thinks it could be her grandmother. ::)
I would love to be able to share anything with you but at the moment I've got nothing but dear old grandma and a nameless gr-grandmother. :(
Thanks for any help or suggestions Roger and do keep in touch.
Regards,
Corny