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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: pablo1 on Sunday 27 July 08 06:20 BST (UK)
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Rough pedigree that is not proven as yet:
1. William Robinson, d. 1887
2. Annie Robinson m. Thomas McAuley
1. Thomas Robinson (1785-1867) m. Mary
2. Samuel Robinson (1840-1868) m. Agnes
2. Abraham Robinson m. 1853 Eliza McMullan
2. Thomas Robinson m. Martha
2. James Robinson m. Ann Topping, dau of James Topping and had,
3. Thomas Robinson, b. 1870 Ballynure and Larne
3. Samuel Robinson, b. 1880
3. Jane Robinson, b. 1872 at Ballynure
3. Mary Robinson, b. 1878
2. William Robinson m. 1875 at Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian Church to Sarah Jane McCauley, dau of Richard McCauley, farmer, of Ballyminstra (witness for groom was John Gardner; witness for Sarah was Jenny McCauley)
3. Robert Robinson, b. 1876
3. Mary Robinson, b. 1878
3. Thomas Robinson, b. 1880 at Ballyalbana
3. George Macaulay Robinson, b. 1881; emigrated to the U.S.; m. Honoree Marie Higgins and had,
4. George Leonard Robinson (1911-2006)
4. William Robert Robinson (1914-1987), my father.
4. Thomas Francis Robinson (1915-1985)
4. Joseph Aloysius Robinson (1920-2004)
4. Paul Andrew Macaulay Robinson (1923-1988)
Both the Robinson family and the McCauley family were Presbyterian. Looking for both ancestors and current family members who may be related to these two families.
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Hi
I was looking at the Baptismal Register for First Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church and found the following information for you.
James Robinson wife Annie Topping had
Thomas Topping born 15 August 1870, Ballyalbana
Jane Topping born 28 June 1872, Ballyalbana
James Topping born 16 February 1875, Ballyboley
Letitia Topping born 25 January 1877, Ballyboley
Mary Topping born 28 May 1878, Ballyalbana
Samuel Topping born 3 May 1880, Ballyalbana
Eliza Topping born 16 June 1884, Larne
There are no other Robinson's that match your details in the baptismal register.
Also from Emerald Ancestors I have just found the Marriage for James and Annie Topping
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 8 Feb 1870
Groom Name James ROBINSON
Bride Name Ann TOPPING
Church Raloo Presbyterian Church
Parish Raloo
Civil District Larne
County Antrim
Hope this information in useful
John
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Sep 1846 – Parish of Ballynure
James Robinson Father John a Farmer
Letitia Morrison The record I have does not have her father
The were both Full age and Widow
Marriage record 3rd qtr 1898 Letitia Robinson Father James
I only have half this marriage record, on Emerald ancestors it looks like she married a Robert. This should be from the Ballynure area as one of my family are on the same marriage index
Helena
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Helena and John,
Many thanks. It seems that I missed quite a few of James Robinson's children. It is also interesting how the name Letitia keeps poping up. Was that a common name back then?
For example, from Ellis Island records:
1904--Robert Robinson from Ballyclare, aged 36
Letitia, wife, aged 30
Mary Ellen, aged 3
Letitia, aged 1
Friend listed as being William Beckett of Philadelphia
Others from that area:
Margaret Beatrice Gardner, b. 1886; dau of Andrew Gardner of Ballyalbana; dressmaker; aged 20 in 1906; living in Minnesota.
My grandfather:
George M. Robinson, from Ardymaugh; arrived in U.S. 16 Mar. 1899 on board the Teutonic from Liverpool; occupation, farmer; passage paid by William Dodds; destination Mount Morris, New York.
Other immigrants:
Joseph Queery McCauley; from Glenwhirry; arrived U.S. 1909, aged 34; Mt Morris ?, New York.
Alexander Gillespie and Thomas McCauley, aged 21, farmer Ballyalbana; they join friend James Thompson in U.S. Alexander had previously worked at Ballyclare paper mill.
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Hi
In your records for Ellis Island did you happen to see and Stewart's from the Cairncastle area near Larne Co Antrim.
I have a William Beggs Stewart born in 1844 who emigrated to Kansus USA in about 1885 and his sons William Beggs Stewart Junior born 1879 and emigrated in 1889 and Thomas Beggs Stewart born 1882 and emigrated in 1898.
Just a long shot as i don't know they traveled to the USA.
Thanks
John
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John,
I was able to find this:
John Stewart from Larne
arrived in U.S., 1900, aged 22, single;
sailed on the ship Campania from Liverpool.
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Recently, I came across this which was of interest:
Calcutta --1906 - 1911 records
Arthur L. Robinson married Maria E. Topping
Information was taken from a website which got the info from
LDS film 498604
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Hello Pablo and Robinson Researchers
My name is Christine Casey Robinson
I am trying to find out anything about Samuel Robinson Born around 1859 in Larne...
He must have emigrated to Australia at some point...as we have his marriage in Australia in 1898 to Florence Edith Craven B 1876 from Sydney and their first child is born in NSW ...they later moved out West where they remain today....Mostly in Perth ..Western Australia...would you happen to know anything about Samuel? perhaps his parents etc or even siblings and even better the ship he travelled on ? or reason for the immigration etc..any info or search guidance would be great ...Kind Regards.... Christine Casey Robinson
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Hi Christine
Samuel Robinson is a common name do you have any further information e.g. his father's name on the marriage certificate.
If you can provide other children's names and dates someone might be able to help as one of them might have a name that can connect to a female line, these families did use first names and middle names from the female line when naming there children.
I know that Pablo has a middle name in one of his family which might be a surname and myself and a couple of other Robinson families have surnames as first names and middle names.
There were a few Robinson families in Antrim on the 1666 Hearth money rolls there were a few of them then scattered around Antrim and my understanding is at least one of them came in mid 1700's
You would need to provide further info and hopefully there is something that would differentiate your Samuel as everyone seems to have a Samuel Robinson.
There are 5 of us that have been in cotact with each other with Robinson family from Antrim and none of us have connected, and between us we have collected a lot of information and hopefully one of us can help you.
I found my great grandfather's shipping record in a N.Z. Library (not much detail) have you tried Australian resources I would think you are more likely to find the shipping record there somewhere.
I have some birth records on file I will check if I can find a Samuel born the year of your Samuel
Helena
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Christine
I checked my birth records that I have they don't start until 1864, I also checked Emerald Ancestors they don't have a Samuel for the year you are looking at.
I have some gravestone records for Larne
St Cedma's
Samuel Robinson 1784 (could be connected to my Raloo Robinson family) the gravestones have some things in common
James Robinson of Ballyboley d. 1827 a. 74
Robert Robinson son of William d. 1835 a 23, also mentioned Thomas Robinson
Hugh Robinson d. 1878 and son John 1907 and son David d. 1908
Thomas Robinson Ballynerry, Ballynure d 1886 a 84
Also have a look at PRONI (Public records office of Northern Ireland) you can do a will calendar search and ECatalog search
McGarel Cemetry has some Robinson's they are later dates than you are looking for, I can provide if you need them.
Helena
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Hi, Christine,
Welcome aboard. As Helena said, there are many Samuels. There is a rumor in my family, though, that one of my grandfather's relatives had emigrated to Australia while he and another brother went to the U.S. Was your Robinson ancestor Presbyterian?
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Hello Helena
Thank you for your response...
Our Samuel Robinson...all we know is that he was born in Larne - Antrim around 1859 ...I've trawled through all the records on the LDS family search web site and there is only one record confirming the year of marriage in Australia as 1898 to Florence Edith Craven (born Sydney in 1876) their children were born in West Australia at various places..so perhaps he was a labourer...theres no mention of either of their parents but their kids where Florence Winnifred 1899, Edith 1901, Arthur James 1903, Samuel 1905, Alfred Henry 1909 (our G grandfather) and Frederick 1918?
According to these dates Samuel Snr would have been 40 at his marriage and 58 when the youngest child was born...I cannot find an online death record of him in WA... but he must have died after 1918 and roughly before 1940's...I suspect he may even have been married in Antrim perhaps to a first wife.....I think I may have to visit the library's and records office though I've only tried the online resources so far....Do any of the names ring a bell...I tried most of them to see if perhaps Samuel senior had any brothers or sister named as such around his birth date lots of result but nothing conclusive to link them to a Samuel....we dont actually have any documents at all for him - only the online records...... Anyway Thanks for your help Helena and I will keep checking and post another message again soon...
Kind Regards Christine Casey Robinson
PS.
Its actually my hubbie's father Alfred Raymond Robinson born here in Fremantle WA in the 30's who is the only son of Alfred Henry Robinson and i'm doing all the research on the family ....so Ray never knew his grandfather I dont think...
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Helena
My father in law Alfred Raymond Robinson born here in Fremantla Western Australia in the 30's - also had a sister Norma their father and Mother split when they were little - mum took Norma and Dad took Alfred Raymond...so he doesn't know much about his mother ...let alone his grandparents.....His mother was Margaret Grace Rhoades....so there is a huge chunk missing from the family tree...Ive also considered perhaps his Aussie wife may have come from an Irish immigrant family ....but I haven't even found any record of her or her parent parents yet....only looked online so far.....Do you have any ideas
Kind Regards ...Christine Casey Robinson
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Hi Christine
I don't have any of those names in my Robinson family, not able to help.
These records may have a link to you they are a later date, I looked for names in your family and found these.
22 Sep 1876 – Ballyalbanagh, Ballycorr
Samuel ROBINSON – Arthur Robinson & Jane Graham – farmer
20 Dec 1900, Old Church - not sure where this is
James ROBINSON, son of Arthur Robinson & Rose Black – miner
14 Sep 1911, High Street
Frederick Maxwell ROBINSON, son of Arthur Robinson & Doreatha Kennedy – army pension
1885 2nd qtr there was a birth of a Frederick William Lennon Robinson no further info on him
28 Jun 1864 – Burleigh Hill
Edith ROBINSON – John Robinson & Louisa Victoria Stewart – gentleman – Burleigh Hill
A Arthur Thomas Robinson married in 1880 no further details
There are a couple of them in your timeframe and the 1876 Arthur father of Samuel is within the right timeframe to be a brother of your Samuel, if he is then your best option here I think is maybe Pablo, the Ballyalbanagh, Ballycorr area has connections to him
Helena
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May or may not be connected:
Calcutta--c. 1906 - 1911, Arthur L. Robinson m. Maria E. Topping
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1. Thomas Robinson and Mary Townsley
2. James Robinson m. Annie Topping...three of their children were the following:
3. Thomas Robinson m. 1 in 1903 to Mary Wallace, dau of John Wallace and
Margaret Morrison; Tom m. 2 in 1911 to Lizzie Robinson, dau of
Matthew Robinson of Larne.
4. Mary Robinson
4. James Robinson
4. Margaret Robinson m. 1927 William Charles Holden
3. Samuel Robinson m. 1904 Jane Wallace, sister of the above Mary Wallace.
3. Lizzie Robinson m. Alexander Clements, bricklayer, son of William Clements, on
August 17, 1903.
4. William Clements, b. abt. 1905
4. James Clements, b. abt. 1906
4. Anne Clements, b. abt. 1908
4. Jackson Clements, b. abt. 1911