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Title: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: abbeygirl on Monday 21 July 08 01:20 BST (UK)
Could some-one help me with a look-up for the marriage of my GG Grandfather Richard Robert/s who was born in Ruthin about 1822, father's name Robert Robert/s.

He married Ruth Price also born about 1822 in Ruthin, parents Robert and Ellin Price, between the years 1840-1842.

Any help and information would be great. Many thanks.
Abbeygirl.
Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: maidmarion on Monday 21 July 08 09:19 BST (UK)
Hi
Cant find this on the North Wales BMD. :o Sorry.
Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: Gadget on Monday 21 July 08 09:31 BST (UK)
I think this might be Ruth with her parents on the 1841, so they would have married after  June 1841:

Efenechtyd, Denbs
HO107/1404 Bk 2 Folio 6 page 6

Robert Price, 48, ag Lab
Elin, 50
Ruth, 20

all born county.

It might be just slogging through the full GRO index 


Don't see any matches Jun 1841 - Dec 1842  :(


Gadget

Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: wrjones on Monday 21 July 08 10:03 BST (UK)
Do you have a Birthyear and Birthplace where the first child was born?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: Gadget on Monday 21 July 08 10:37 BST (UK)
1851 - HO107/2470 Folio 296 Page 8

Carmarthenshire

eldest daughter shown as 9. Born Glamorgan.  maybe marriage was in South Wales.


Gadget
Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: Gadget on Monday 21 July 08 10:58 BST (UK)
Full details of the 1851 for those without access:

Black rock, Llandovery, Carmarthenshire

Richard Robert, 29, earthenware dealer,b.  Denbs, Ruthin
Ruth, 28, b.  Denbs, Ruthin
Elizabeth, 9, b. Glamorgan, Ystradgynlais
Ann, 7. b. Merioneth, Dolgelley
Jane, 5, b. Carm, Llandovery
Ruth, 3, b. Carm, Llandovery
Elizabeth Morris, servant, 28, house servant, b. Carm, Llandovery


Regards


Gadget
Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: abbeygirl on Monday 21 July 08 11:05 BST (UK)
Thank you all. I will keep trying. Perhaps South Wales would be a good idea.
Checked my information on this family again and have realised that they state that they are Society of Friends--Quakers. Would the marriage still be registered?

Again thank you.
Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: Gadget on Monday 21 July 08 11:25 BST (UK)
Hi Abbey

If it was after Sept 1837, it would be registered and - I'm not sure will have to check -  they are most likely to have married in an established church ceremony before that time. (see next message for correction)

It looks as if Richard moved around with his trade, so they could have married in various places


Gadget
Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: Gadget on Monday 21 July 08 11:29 BST (UK)
Hi

They might be in the Quaker registers:

Quote
n England & Wales between 1754 and 1837, Quakers and Jews were the only groups allowed to solemnise legally valid marriages outside the (Anglican) Parish Church. Unlike other nonconformists, therefore, the Quaker marriage registers continued throughout this period. Quaker marriages do not appear in Parish Registers
  my emphasis

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~engqfhs/Research/records.htm#Marriages



Gadget
Title: Re: Marriage Look-up ROBERTS and PRICE
Post by: Paul on Monday 21 July 08 17:05 BST (UK)
Hi Abbey, Gadget :)

I looked and couldn't see a marriage in Ruthin, Llanfwrog, Llanfair D C,
Llanrhydd, Llanbedr D C, Llanynys, Llanychan.

I looked at the Chapel Index for Ruthin none of them had marriages.

Your right Gadget they could have married anywhere :-\
Your South Wales sounds good to me ;)

I couldn't see a baptism for Ruth. I don't know if this is Richard.
Feb 17 1822. Richard S/O Robert & Elizabeth Roberts. Prior St. Shoemaker.

Paul