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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Essex => England => Essex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Keith Sherwood on Monday 24 January 05 15:52 GMT (UK)
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Could SKS please have a look for me for the BAYNES/BAINES family in either the 1861 or 1871 Census. I believe Alfred Baines left the family home in Radwinter after he married in the 1850's there and moved to a dwelling on the Chrishall Grange estate, Chrishall. He is certainly there in the 1881 Census with an expanding family, but I do not have access to the 1861 or 1871 Censuses.
Thank you, in hopeful anticipation,
Keith
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So sorry! An EXPANDING family - they may indeed have been individually free with their hard-earned money, but that wasn't the impression I was trying to give.
Keith
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here he is in 1871 at Chrishall Grange
Alfred Baynes, head, age40, engine driver on farm, born Essex Radwinter
Sarah, wife, age 37 born Cambs
Alexander, son, age 15, ag lab born Duxford Cambs Shudy camps
Emma,daughter, age 12, scholar born Chrishall
Ernest, son, age 10,ag lab born Chrishall
Mary A,daughter, age 8, scholar born Chrishall
Ellen, daughter, age 6,scholar born Chrishall
Susannah, daughter age 3 born Chrishall
Rose, daughter, age 3months born Chrishall
RG10/1708
ed 3 folio 54 page 26
hope this helps
Nicky
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Hi again, Nicky,
Thanks so much for this. You've obviously had that large, mobile magnifying glass poring over the records for me!
Keith
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This is them in 1841, which you've probably got.
HO/107/329/09 7 Page 7 - Radwinter
John Baynes, aged 35yrs, agricultural labourer
Hannah, aged 30yrs (not born in Essex)
Alfred, aged 10yrs
Arthur, aged 8yrs
William, aged 6yrs
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Thanks Suepip,
It's good to see it set out nice and clearly! When I was straining my eyes to read the dreadful enumerator's script on those microfilms of the 1841 and 1851 Censuses of Radwinter at the FRC on a fleeting visit, I had trouble making the names out properly. Though I seem to remember that the worst transcription of all was the 1861 one. So I'm still not sure where Alfred Baynes and his newly-begun family were in 1861. An indication from the 1871 Census that Nicky looked up for me was that it might have been Duxford, just across the county border in Cambridgeshire.
Alfred's brother Arthur moved to Ickleton, the next parish to Duxford, also in Cambs, so different-named birthplaces to confuse us all; but basically all in the same small area of East Anglia.
Best wishes,
Keith
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Hi Keith,
This is the 1861 census. Regards, Frances
RG9/1121/52
116 CHRISHALL GRANGE.
ALFRED BAYNES 30 AG LAB RADWINTER ESSEX
SARAH 27 CAMBS
HANNAH 7 RADWINTER
ALEXANDER 5 DUXFORD
EMMA 3 CHRISHALL PELHAM
ERNEST ALBERT 7 MONTHS CHRISHALL GRANGE
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Hi Keith,
Arthur living next door. Kind Regards, Frances
RG9/1121/52
115 CHRISHALL GRANGE
ARTHUR BAYNES 28 ENGINE DRIVER RADWINTER
HARRIET BAYNES 29 RADWINTER
JONES BAYNES 6 RADWINTER
CHARLES 4 RADWINTER
ELIZABETH ONE & HALF YEARS RADWINTER
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Hi again, Frances,
Thanks SO much for these nuggets of information. That links things up perfectly for the Baynes family. Do hope your own family research is going well - I see that there is someone else on the list who is communicating with you about that family in London we have a common interest in.
Keith
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The Ernest Baynes 1860 was my mother in law's grandfather, he moved to Poplar in London where he married had a son and was employed as a police officer, but went home to Chrishall where he died in 1891. His widow Mary re-married and moved to Hebburn Tyne and Wear where his son Alexander William Baynes, known as William, can be found on the 1911 census.
Carolie