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Title: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: genieology on Saturday 19 July 08 19:02 BST (UK)
Can anyone tell me if there was a business at 223 Oxford Road Chorlton on Medlock, and if so what it was? My gggrandfather was living there on the 1841 census, just listed as salesaman. His father is listed on his marriage cert as manager, what they sold or managed is a mystery!
Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: sem73 on Saturday 19 July 08 19:18 BST (UK)
Hi there

What was his name?

Sarah :)
Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: bursy on Saturday 19 July 08 19:20 BST (UK)
Hi,

Could that be Oxford Street, Chorlton on Medlock

In 1848, the occupier was
Henry William Pickering,     Pianoforte Tuner

If I am totally wrong ( again  ;D), Could you give us your gggrandfathers name, it may help in looking up directories.

Dave
Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: genieology on Saturday 19 July 08 20:06 BST (UK)
Hi Bursy, thanks for the quick response, I have Oxford Rd, but don't have my original data to hand at the moment to check.
 He was William Walker born 1813, variously Otley or Birkenshaw, Yorkshire.
Thanks, this family is very sketchy right upto the 1930's
Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 19 July 08 20:23 BST (UK)
Not very helpful but in 1891 and 1901,  334 Oxford Street, was a butcher's shop belonging to my g.g.uncle. If the even numbers were one side of the street and the odd numbers on the other, the chances are 223 was nearly opposite 334, and was probably a shop of some kind.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: sem73 on Saturday 19 July 08 20:29 BST (UK)
Hi Again

Can't see anything listed under William Walker ...  >:(

What was his father's name and address?

Sarah :)

Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: bursy on Saturday 19 July 08 20:38 BST (UK)
Hi,

Nothing for number 223, but could this be your William, at the same address in 1848 and 1851.

1851 Chorlton on Medlock Unfilmed

187 Oxford St
WALKER
William                 Head      M      45     Book Seller & Stationer                  Gisborough, Yorkshire
Jane                     Wife       M      47     Book Sellers Wife                              Wigton, Cumberland
Sarah Elizabeth     Dau      U       21    Book Sellers Daughter                     Gisborough, Yorkshire
William Henry        Son       U       19    Clerk to Book Seller                               " "           " "
Robert                   Son       U       14   Assistant in Shipping Warehouse           " "          " "
Jane                      Dau                 12        " "           " "               " "                   " "          " "
Edward                 Son                   7           Home Taught                               Manchester

plus 1 Servant

Hope this helps
Dave


Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: genieology on Sunday 20 July 08 10:13 BST (UK)
Thanks for your replies, in 1851 I have him in Irk St with Tamar, who may or may not have been his wife, in 1861 he is with his wife Elizabeth and family in Copperass St. I think he left his father Joseph in Yorkshire. He had a stall on Smithfield Market and then later a drapers shop at 310 Oxford St. I have no idea why he left Yorkshire or what the family did.
I have found the family on the censuses, and most BMD certs, but I never think that is enough, and try to find more info, and I have them in some trade directories. I also know that his wife's father William Wall was a hairdresser on Liverpool Rd in the 1830's but nothing else.
I suppose I'll ever really know what happened but the fun is in the trying ;D
Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: Barbara.H on Sunday 20 July 08 15:55 BST (UK)
Could that be Oxford Street, Chorlton on Medlock...

If I am totally wrong ( again  ;D)

Not at all Dave  ;D ;D ;D

It looks like Oxford Road, Chorlton-on-Medlock, became Oxford Street around 1845 - just to confuse rootschatters of the future and for No Other Reason  :).

The 1848 maps refer to Oxford St, Saint Peters and Oxford St, Chorlton on Medlock - but named buildings on Oxford St C-on-M include 'Oxford Road Rectifying Distillery', Oxford Rd twist company and of course, Oxford Road Station , still there today.

I think (but now I could be wrong) that the Saint Peter's/Chorlton 0n Medlock boundary is the River Medlock itself.  So number one Oxford Street C-on-M would be where the road goes over the river, on the left hand side if you are going south from M/cr centre.

 :) Barbara

Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: Barbara.H on Sunday 20 July 08 16:12 BST (UK)
Just remembered I lived for a while at no 325 Oxford Rd (not in 1841  ;D ;D) so if numbers stayed roughly the same, I reckon your William's place would be about where the Manchester University Kilburn Building is now
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/visitors/travel/maps/az/

Barbara

Title: Re: Business Oxford Road?
Post by: genieology on Sunday 20 July 08 17:00 BST (UK)
not much point in paying a visit then. I was hoping for a picture. I know Manchester, like most of our cities, has been practically rebuilt since the sixties, but small pockets have remained and I hoped it may still be standing. Thanks for your help everyone.