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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: Genos on Friday 18 July 08 23:22 BST (UK)
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I have done research before but I've never had to find any information from France and I noticed France isnt listed in the areas of Interest.
I am helping a friend who is trying to find a birth certifcate for David Rattray Caird who was born in Saint Germain de Livet in Normandie on the 19th June 1851 and also to find if he had any brothers or sisters born in France. (He did marry in Scotland in 1870)
His father was James Caird and she would like to discover if he died in France.
Be very grateful for any help/suggestions.
Emmy
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Hello,
I currently work in the archives in France and have friends who do lots of genealogical research. They have recommended that a good place to start would be local family history societies. Normandy has several departements which include:
Normandie :
orne : http://www.cgmp-genealogie.net/
http://www.orne-perche.com/
http://www.perche-gouet.net/
calvados : http://www.cegecal.org
manche : http://www.cgpf35-fougeres.org
seine-maritime : http://site.voila.fr/agpb7660/
http://www.rouengenealogie.org/
I think Saint Germain de Livet is in Calvados.
All the best,
Pip
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Have you found him on Scottish censuses - and looked for other Cairds b. France there?
Also www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk mentions an overseas index (similar to the GRO overseas indexes?) on which he might be found.
As you have a place and exact date, it's also possible to write to the Mairie (town hall) and ask for a copy of his birth act, if he was recorded in the local civil registrations.
http://www.cclisieuxpaysdauge.fr/modele.php?ref=4&categ=151&page=399&cdc=true
- they appear to have an email address, you might try contacting that first.
Also if you know the father's occupation, that will help in working out why they were there, how long they are likely to have stayed, etc.
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Hi Pip and Jerose
It's so kind of you both giving up your time to help me. I do have one BIG drawback here with this research I dont know the French language.
Would it be possible to write my request in English or in your opinion, would it be better to have it translated into French before sending any emails etc?
I have already tried Scotlandspeople.org and have found several Cairds but not the correct ones. (I'm still searching for their overseas index cant seem to find it?)
I do know that David did come back to Scotland and he was married in Dundee (1870)when he was 19yrs old. His mother's death is registered in Dundee 1857, but re David's father, James, as yet I cant find any records relating to him in Scotland which makes me believe he may well have died in France.
I do know that they went to France either to work or teach jaquard weaving. My friend seems to be sure that they were in Normandie but I will try Calvados as well.
Once again my sincere thanks for all the links you have given me they will be a great help.
Regards
Emmy
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Hi Emmy,
have you seen this
Topic: French Relatives - Where do I start?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,173401.0.html
You might find a few tips there, too.
Good luck,
Bob
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i speak French ....can i help ??
Debz
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Thank you so much Debz If its not too much bother I would be very grateful if you could translate this letter to the mayor asking for a copy of the birth certificate.
Dear Sir,
I would be grateful if you could send me a copy of the full birth certificate for David Rattray Caird born 19th June 1851 in St Germain de Livet.
His father's name was James Caird and his mother's name was Elizabeth (maiden name Skinner)
I will be happy to forward you any cost this may involve.
Thanking you in anticipation
Regards
Emmy :)
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Hi Bob
Thank you for moving the post for me and thank you too for the link. I will definately have a good look through those posts tonight.
Regards
Emmy
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Dear Sir,
I would be grateful if you could send me a copy of the full birth certificate for David Rattray Caird born 19th June 1851 in St Germain de Livet.
His father's name was James Caird and his mother's name was Elizabeth (maiden name Skinner)
I will be happy to forward you any cost this may involve.
Thanking you in anticipation
Monsieur,
Je recherche la Genealogie de ma famille. Un de mes ancetres, David Rattray Caird est ne le dixneuf Juin, 1851 a St Germain de Livet. Le nom de son pere etait James Caird et sa mere Elizabeth (nee Skinner ). Je voudrai obtenir une copie de L'Extrait de Naissance si possible.
Veuillez me contacter pour me communiquer les couts de vos services s'il vous plait..
En vous remercients bien d'avance.
veuillez croire ,a mes sinceres salutations
Sorry i do not have the accents on my key board !!!
Debz
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That was really very kind of you, Thank you so much for the translation. I have sent off an email to the 'marie' so keeping my fingers croossed now that I get a reply. Will let you know what happens
Emmy
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I have found what I believe is a link to David Caird in France but I cant get any further into this site because I dont have a subscription to it. If someone has a subscription to this site to check the document for me I would be very grateful. Don’t think this information will be on Ancestry.
This is the link, the ones I'm interested in is 1851-1851 that says Stranraer and the one above it. As yet I don’t know what it relates to but I think it could be something to do with some of the family returning to UK from France.
Be grateful for any help or suggestions what this document is.
Emmy
http://search.geneanet.org/result.php3?lang=en&name=Caird&place=France&country=&source=&x=38&y=8
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hi Emmy,
i did ....i'll check it out for you unless it's run out ???
Debz
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sorry Emmy, i have subscriptions but the info you need i would have to upgrade. :(
Debz
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Thank you so much for trying Debz Its much appreciated
Emmy
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I sent an email to the Mairie on Saturday and I had a reply today from what I gather I have to write to another address. I was surprised and pleased I received a reply so quickly.
Emmy
Bonjour
Notre Etat Civil commence à 1893, pour les actes précédents
Bien vouloir s'adresser aux
Archives Départementales du Calvados
61 rue Lion sur Mer
14000 CAEN
Tél 02.31.47.18.50
Vous en souhaitant bonne réception
La Secrétaire
Emmy
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French Authorities seem to be excellent in replying to requests. This morning I received a copy of David Caird's birth certifcate with just a short note of what the expenses had come to:- the cost of the photocopying and the postage no charge for their time or the document. Total 1.55 euros.
I still cant believe they have replied so quickly.
Emmy