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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: ramsayjohn on Friday 18 July 08 03:01 BST (UK)
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Help needed Can anyone tell me how to find a marriage record for a marriage that took place in Possilpark district of Glasgow in 1935/6. Even Ancestry only goes to 1932!! Can't find a registration office with on line index search either? How do I request a marriage cert. First forray in to Scottish records. You can tell can't you??? Thanks anyone who can help
Please note both parties are deceased. I'm trying to help a friend get started and thought it would be as easy as English records. Not so If anyone knows how to access indexes the names are Aldo Gino Martino CORTOPASSI and Ann SMITH we think at Possilpark around 1935/6 The eldest child was born 1937
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If you can get it a wee bit further back then it gets easier. Scotlandspeople site is excellent, some people think expensive. I don't think it is but you need to be careful how you spend credits.
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Both from SP.
Hope these give yo a hand,
Sorry if I'm showing you the obvious.
Dave
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Hi ramsayjohn,
The first two records say Eastwood.
There are 2 Eastwood cemeteries Eastwood old and Eastwood New.
The Glasgow city boundary runs between both.
Eastwood old is on Thornliebank Rd which is in Glasgow, Lanarkshire and Eastwood New( a 5 min walk away) which is around the corner from Thornliebank railway station is in Thornliebank which is Renfrewshire,
Billy.
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PS
We're not allowed to show full images on the site.
I'm not teasing by only posting parts of the images.
Dave
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ramsayjohn (RJ)
Just re-reading your posts....
Neither Billy or I have answered your question!
Why are you looking for the recent marriage? Is your pal looking for ancestors or living relatives?
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My friend is looking for the recent marriage (1935/6) because that is all she is sure of. She has her own birth cert and is only just starting. Hence the parents marriage. She knows that they were born in Scotland and has been told that her grandfather ( Cortopassai) was an Italian migrant. She doesn't know anything else. From the marriage cert she will get her two grandfather's names and the name of her grandmother. She tried starting at the Italian end but I told her that she should start with what she knows, not what she thinks. Thanks for the info but it looks too early
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Isn't it very likely that Aldo b1912 is your friends ancestor? He'd be the correct age to have been married in 35/36.
Not too many Cortopassi's in Scotland.
Am I stating the obvious....there are a few folk on GR with that family. If you or your friend aren't members, I'd be happy to contact them for you.
Dave :)
Amended - my reply #1 are marriages , reply #2 are births
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Hi daval57,
Was interested with your statement, about not showing full image on this site. I went and looked at Scotland People website re copyright, and I do not think you are allowed to publish any part of the image.
If you go to site and check Copyright section, see RESTRICTED USE. It states no part maybe published on an open internet site.
Tom
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Hmmmmm!
I stand corrected again.
You're correct of course. I THINK we are allowed to transcribe but not use the image(s).
However, I doubt very much if the powers that be will jump down our throats if we just post a wee bit of the document on RC. Everyone does it - "can you translate this" "what's this name" "does this say...."
I reckon, as long as none of us are using the images for commercial purposes. there is nothing to be concerned about.
Point taken though Tom.
Dave
Modified - PS - the images that are copywritten are the images of the actual documents, not the listings. Yer still right Tom, I break the rules.
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Hi Dave,
I must admit I do it myself, but I thought you knew something that I didn't. Now, I am not too sure. I should maybe post separately to try and get a definite answer.
I wasn't worried about "jumping down my throat" more "taking money out of my pocket"
Tom
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Maybe a separate post isn't a good idea.
It might just open a can of worms.
Let's lie what lies.
;D
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The actual images are copyright of the GROS.
The index database design etc and any images of that database are copyright of Scotlands People.
Publishing a small section for the purposes of clarification do not breach the copyright of either party - as in can someone tell what this writing is.
The facts contained within the images are not copyright and transcribing them (not just copying them) is acceptable, I believe.
As you are no doubt aware, to safeguard itself Rootschat has a very strict policy regarding copyright and the team involved do a difficult job (and thankless task) very well
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/copyright.php
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Nice clarification there Falkyrn.
Thanks.
As far as the team having a "thankless task", that is very unfair and a very sweeping comment.
I think, No, I know a lot of us fully appreciate the effort that goes on behind the scenes to make RC what it is.
Anyway, let's not turn this into a barny - we both appreciate the site. We both help out when we can. Everyone helps out. That's what it's all about. Oh do the hokey cokey........... ;D ;D ;D
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Falkyrn,
I would like to add ma tupenny haypney,s worth in saying that is should never be regarded as a thankless task, I am personally indebted for the help I have had in the past.
kind regards Billy.
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Falkyrn,
I would like to add ma tupenny haypney,s worth in saying that is should never be regarded as a thankless task, I am personally indebted for the help I have had in the past.
kind regards Billy.
I don't regard it in that manner at all but unfortunately some have done so, fortunately a minority.
Like you I have been helped several times by Rootschat members going out of their way to do so and in some small ways hope I have been able to repay some of that.
That , I believe, is the strength of RC
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Hi all: Back to the original question. Out of curiosity (and because my dad's family emigrated to the U.S. from Italy), I checked the Ellis Island site for the surname Cortopassi--on the off-chance that Aldo might have emigrated to the U.S. first.
I found 147 Cortopassis, but the closest to Aldo was an Adolfina Cortopassi from Lucca. If
Also, the Aldo George Cortopassi born 1976 in Edinburgh should probably be easy to find via telephone directories, no?
regards,
John :o :o :o
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From SP
Aldo Gino Martino Cortopassi B1912 D1985
There are 2 births for Also Gino Martino Cortopassi in Glasgow in 1912 so possibly registered in both districts.
If Ramsayjohn orders the death cert from 1985 (£10GBP), it will confirm wife and parents.
Assuming I've picked the correct records, and I'm fairly sure I have, I've found the following.
Aldo's wife Ann Smith died 1968 age 51
Aldo's parents:
married 1912
Paulo (Paul) Cortopassi c1881 (31 at marriage). No birth on SP. died 1924
Mary Catherine Doherty c1893 (19 at marriage). Haven't looked for birth yet.
From their marriage cert, Aldo's grandparents:
Martino Cortopassi and wife Adelaide Bartolomei - I assume they were both born and died in Italy (no deaths on SP).
Patrick Doherty and Teresa Leonard (I've not checked them out on SP yet.
I've emailed ramsayjohn directly with full details.
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Aldo Gino Martino was my father's brother; Anne Smith was my mother's sister! Two brothers married to two sisters. My father was Patrick (Patrixion on BC, Paddy to all his friends), my mother was Bridget Smith (Bridie). Contact me if you want more info.
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Correction - Patrick's birth certificate name was Patrizio.
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Hello! I've just stumbled on this thread and I was wondering if anyone might be able to help.
I'm a student at the University of Edinburgh. I'm doing a research project on Italian language maintenance among the Scotsitalian community and on its role in shaping the identity of successive generations of Italian immigrants.
If you're a Scotsitalian (no matter whether you speak Italian or not) or have Italian ancestors (no matter how remote they may be) and think you could spare 5 minutes (honestly, it won't take more than that) to fill up a questionnaire I would be very grateful. Please send me a private message and I'l forward the questionnaire to you.
Thanks a lot
Katia
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Hello there, regarding Cortopassi.
I am Aldo Gino Cortopassi's Great granddaughter.
I have been tracking our family tree.
I would like to hear from anyone with more details relating to the cross over marriage of the two brother and sisters to add into the tree. much appreciated.
Aldo and wife Anne, Patrick and wife Bridget.
thank you :)