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Title: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Monday 14 July 08 00:15 BST (UK)
Have recently discovered this branch of my mothers family (Kemp).
William died 28/1/52 in Aberdeen, Eastern District
Petronella in 1990, same district.
Can't find a marriage cert yet
Looking for any info on area of Aberdeen, according to William's death cert from Scotlands People he died in an Ambulance.....and this is where it gets hard to read.......?Lodge Nack/Naek?
                           ?Hokes?, 19 Middlefield
                            ?????????(this bit unclear)

Does any of this make any sense to anyone ?

Thanks

Gordon
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: Joyful on Monday 14 July 08 00:58 BST (UK)
If you post the relevant piece of the cert someone may be able to assist in deciphering.

Joy
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Monday 14 July 08 17:40 BST (UK)
Sorry folks but how do i go about placing the relevant image onto this post?

Gordon
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: Chortlegirl on Monday 14 July 08 19:19 BST (UK)
Hi Gordon

Sorry, can't help with how to post an image, but could the "Lodge Naek" be Lodge Walk? This street was the site of Police Headquarters in Aberdeen - would this fit with any of the info you have on William or his cause of death?

Lynn
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: mitchell on Monday 14 July 08 21:11 BST (UK)
Hi Gordon,

Here's a link to "how to add images..." http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,130922.0.html

Because of copyright, you would need to crop the image so that you just show us the bit that you want us to read. Instructions on how to do this are in the above link as well.

My immediate thought was Lodge Walk as well  :) I'm intrigued now..there is a Middlefield Place and Middlefield Terrace in Aberdeen but they are a fair distance from Lodge Walk.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02nh/

Elaine
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Tuesday 15 July 08 00:12 BST (UK)
Could well be Lodge Walk !
How do I change file from bmp to jpg ?
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: mitchell on Tuesday 15 July 08 10:16 BST (UK)
I think that you should get the option to change this when you use "save as" when downloading. You should be able to change the format from the drop down list.

For better help try asking here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,285.0.html   :) :)

Elaine
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Tuesday 15 July 08 23:40 BST (UK)
hope this works, i'd say definitely Lodge Walk
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Tuesday 15 July 08 23:43 BST (UK)
SORRY WHOLE THING ATTACHED, DON'T KNOW HOW TO REMOVE FROM POST, ANY IDEAS ?
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: sancti on Wednesday 16 July 08 00:25 BST (UK)
Died in ambulance in Lodge Walk, Aberdeen (usual residence 19 Middlefield Crescent, Aberdeen)
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Wednesday 16 July 08 18:21 BST (UK)
Many Thanks for confirming the address, am I right in believing that Lodge Walk was the Police headquarters ?Was there anything else in Lodge Wak in 1952 ?

Can someone ask a moderator to remove my post with the attached cert as I wrongly attached the whole cert thinking I had attached only the address section I was querying.

Gordon
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: pat s n on Thursday 17 July 08 11:11 BST (UK)
Hi

Lodge Walk is a very old street that used to run from the Castlegate to Queen Street and now leads to the back of the Police Headquarters - still known to locals as Lodge Walk. I have the street directory for 1957-58 and there are a number of properties listed - the City Police Office, the Department of Agriculture for Scotland, a private householder (Mathew Stevenson) and John E Esslemont (china merchant).

In 1906, my gt uncle, Peter Gallacher, lived in a flat at 35 Lodge Walk. The majority of the closes and pends in the Castlegate area have been built over, truncated or generally lost in various so-called improvements!

By the way, it was called Lodge Walk because the entrance to the Masonic Lodge above the New Inn was there. The New Inn was built in 1755 and in 1839 it was demolished to make way for Archibald Simpson's North Bank which is now the Archibald Simpson pub.

Pat
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Saturday 19 July 08 19:27 BST (UK)
Hello Pat

Thanks for the information on Lodge Walk.
I guess I'll now need to try and work out why he was in this area when he died, considering he was living a bit away in Middlefield Crescent at the time.

Thanks Again

Gordon
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: sancti on Saturday 19 July 08 20:05 BST (UK)
I would guess he was on his way to the hospital when he died in the ambulance
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Sunday 20 July 08 12:14 BST (UK)
Am I correct in assuming from your post that Lodge Walk is on the direct route from Middlefield Place to the Hospital
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: mitchell on Sunday 20 July 08 12:47 BST (UK)
Lodge Walk is not on the direct route.

The Casualty Department (ER) at that time would have been at Woolmanhill...I would think that that is where the ambulance would have been heading to from Lodge Walk.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hl=en&tab=wl  if you put in Woolmanhill+Aberdeen as the search, it'll show Woolmanhill and then if you zoom in a little bit you can see Lodge Walk at the junction of Union Street and King Street

As you have the date of William's death, it might be worth checking to see if there was a mention in the local paper. The Local Studies dept. of the Central Library in Aberdeen would be able to check for you  :)

http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/ACCI/web/site/Libraries/NS/Lib_LocalStudies.asp

Elaine
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: pat s n on Sunday 20 July 08 14:51 BST (UK)
Hi

There are (and were at that time) several hospitals in Aberdeen but I cant think of one that fits. Lodge Walk never has been a thoroughfare that an ambulance would use unless actually leaving from premises in Lodge Walk to go to a hospital. Could he have been taken ill while in the police station or some other premises in the area?

Pat
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: sancti on Sunday 20 July 08 16:43 BST (UK)
It's possible that he was in the area when he had his heart attack I suppose
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: woiiftm on Sunday 20 July 08 20:07 BST (UK)
Which takes us back to my earlier post where I said I'd need to find out what may have led to him being in that area
Title: Re: Hard to read, Anyone help?
Post by: pat s n on Sunday 20 July 08 22:24 BST (UK)
How about the Press and Journal? The death may have been reported.