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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: foxfire on Sunday 13 July 08 21:10 BST (UK)
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Can anyone tell me how to access the cemetery records for Lochgelly. I am trying to find Simpsons and Wyse families. Thanks
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Hi Foxfire I have 900 headstone photographs for Lochgelly Cemetery
who are you looking for need more than just Simpson & Wyse
Norrie G
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Many thanks for your reply. We have been to the cemetery but couldn't find what we are looking for. It is for a stillborn baby born in 1925. We have been to the records office in Edinburgh but it wasn't necessary to register stillborns till after that. I was just following a hunch that he may have been buried with one of her family (Simpson or Wyse)
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Hi Foxfire these are the Simpson & Wyse inscriptions from Lochgelly Cemetery
Lg 301 Andrew Simpson Jeannie Barnes
301 Jeannie BARNS wife of Andrew SIMPSON
died 22.5.1942 age 54
Andrew SIMPSON died 14.9.1957 age 69
Lg 1069 James G L Simpson Jean Gair
1069 A dear Mum Jean SIMPSON or GAIR died 17.9.1958 age 45
1st wife of James C.L.SIMPSON who died 16.11.2000 age 77
Lg 155 William Butler Simpson Isabella Johnston
155 William B SIMPSON died 27.5.1960 age 62
wife Isabella JOHNSTONE died 20.6.1978 age 82
son Robert SIMPSON died 6.3.1989 age 59
Lg 41 Henry Beattie Helen Simpson
41 Henry BEATTIE died 25.11.1960
wife Helen SIMPSON died 3.1.1984 age 80
Lg 817 Robert Wyse Margaret Forrester
817 Robert WYSE husband of Margaret FORRESTER
died 19.2.1960 age 54
grandson Henry WYSE died 3.12.1981 age 18
Norrie G
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Many thanks for your help, the information is so good . I will enter it into my family history.
Foxfire
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Hi Norrie!
I am trying to find the family of my grandmother, Bridget Murray Gorman or "Betty" , Born Dec. 30, 1898 in Lochgelly, Scotland (or Cowdenbeath) . She had a younger sister, Elizabeth, or "Peg"
Her mother's name was Reilly, I believe, and she died age 42 of dropsy in Lochgelly, Scotland (or Cowdenbeath) . Is there a Reilly in your collection of photographs which might be a match?. Can you tell me where i might find information to track down the maternal side to their origins in County Cork? Also, I heard that the father subsequently remarried and had more children with the second wife.
Thanks!
Linda Hammond
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Hi Dawnone
its not as easy to check the index with that information
what I need is your Grandfather & Grandmothers Names
eg Thomas Reilly Mary - Ann Millar
Norrie G
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found a lot of the info today - look on other posting:
Lochgelly - cowdenbeath.
Diddy
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Hi!
Diddy just found that information (which I didn't have!) so-
my great grandmother was (1901 census:)
Bridget Gorman (nee Reilly) Head. age 22 b. lochgelly (1879)
and
Great-Grandfather was Edward Gorman, married 31/12/1897 Auchterderran
but from 1881 census:
Michael Reilly h. 46 b. ireland (1835)
Bridget Reilly w.36 b. ireland (1845)
Mary " d. 5 Auchterderran (1876)
Bridget " 3 Auchterderran (1878)
Catherine " 7mth Kinghorn (1880)
There's a difference in her birth year from one census to the next. If she lived to 42, as my grandmother told me, she'd have died around 1920-1921
Her husband, Edward Gorman, remarried feb 18th 1921 lochgelly, listed as widower. I wonder why Bridget was listed as the head of the household in the 1881 census if she was married to Edward and subsequently had another daughter...
My great-great grandmother, Bridget Reilly w.36 b. ireland (1845) is whose maiden name (possibly Murray??) I'm trying to discover. as she must be the one who came from Cork - the story is that she was the eldest of 3 children, who were the only survivors in their family of the potato famine, and she arrived as a girl in Lochgelly with a younger sister and brother in tow. She was born the year the famine began- i wonder if this makes sense.
I have some photos of my grandmother, Bridget Gorman, and her family on a site I created for my father after he died, if anyone's interested.
http://www.dawnone.com/adman.html
Thanks for helping!!
Linda Dawn Hammond
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Linda - Although Bridget is listed as head it just means Edward was elsewhere.
dates vary slightly because of census date. think Bridget died in 1920 - after Catherines death obviously - as I have given you Edwards 2nd marriage as 1921.
Diddy
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Linda, my last posting on this as i am going away for a week: SP
Bridget Reillys death:
died 4/8/1915 age 75 (this makes birth year 1840 - diff -but often happened on census getting dates wrong - think this more likely)
widow of Michael Reilly 54 high street, lochgelly
father: edward Murray farmer decd
Mother: bridget murray ms moore? decd
off A. 1901 census from above address:
33 high street,lochgelly
bridget A reilly head b. abt 1841 ireland
mary reilly da. b.1876 Auchterderran
+ 2 boarders
photo of famine on other posting.
have enjoyed the search - you now have plenty to go on
Diddy
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Thank-you so much, Diddy! Have a good trip!
Linda
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I have good reason to believe my Great Grandfather George Stein Dryden was buried in Lochgelly in 1902. He died on 29 May 1902 at 21 Gardiner Street. His father was John Dryden and mother Mary Stein. His wife was Mary Hetherton. His son George, a coal miner in Lochgelly, was in attendance at his death. Have you any suggestions how I might be able to find where he is buried.
Alex.
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the Lochgelly cemetery site has contact details:
http://www.fife.gov.uk/atoz/index.cfm?fuseaction=facility.display&facid=FB650C83-FA2D-42C9-86F37740D2FBDC51#contacts
Diddy
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I have good reason to believe my Great Grandfather George Stein Dryden was buried in Lochgelly in 1902. He died on 29 May 1902 at 21 Gardiner Street. His father was John Dryden and mother Mary Stein. His wife was Mary Hetherton. His son George, a coal miner in Lochgelly, was in attendance at his death.
Hi Alex I have photographed the headstones in Lochgelly all 1100 of
them and can see no Dryden Stones, this does no mean he is not
buried there but he has no marker.
the only DRYDEN headstone I have is in Falkland Cemetery
inscription reads
227 Johnsten DRYDEN died 1953 age 79
Wife Frances McNEILL died 20.9.1963age 86
NorrieG
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Many thanks.
The Falkland Headstone is my grandfather and grandmother. My Grandfather is John Stein Dryden, not Johnsten.
Cheers,
Alex.
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The Falkland Headstone is my grandfather and grandmother. My Grandfather is John Stein Dryden, not Johnsten
Hi Alex not my best photograph of a headstone but you may like to
have a copy.
Norrie G
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Thank you so much,
and Best Wishes.
Alex
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Hi All,
I wondered if I might ask if there is a headstone inscription or photo for Elizabeth Blair ARMIT, died 02 Oct 1949 in Lochgelly, daug of James & Isabella ROBERTSON (nee MCCRUM).
With thanks,
Sage.
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I might ask if there is a headstone inscription or photo for Elizabeth Blair ARMIT, died 02 Oct 1949 in Lochgelly, daug of James & Isabella ROBERTSON (nee MCCRUM).
Hi sage sorry nothing in my index for the above, But I do have plenty of Robertson Headstones do you know if James & Isobell had any other Children or who their parents were?.
Norrie
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Thanks for checking Norrie...The McCrum family was from Shotts/Holytown area of Lanarkshire but yes, James and Isabella are probably buried in Lochgelly.
James Robertson d 07 Jan 1946 in Lochgelly. He was the son of Henry Robertson and Elizabeth Blair
Isabella Robertson (nee McCrum) d 30 Apr 1923. She was the daug of Isaac McCrum & Jane Adams.
It is possible that there are other issue of Henry and Elizabeth Robertson buried at Lochgelly but they were originally from Lasswade, though I see that some settled in Kelty. Anything you manage to find would be most appreciated.
Sage.
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I've found further information regarding Elizabeth Blair Robertson...she was married to John Armit and after marriage in Lochgelly in 1914 John & Elizabeth settled in Newmains, Lanarkshire. Unfortunately, John Armit succumbed to the Spanish Flu in 1918 so Elizabeth returned to her folk in Lochgelly but she never remarried. I suppose it's possible that she was buried in Cambusnethan cemetery with John.
However, I have discovered that John & Eliz had a daug, Isabella McCrum Armit in 1914 and that she married Robt Scott. She died in Lochgelly aged 53 in 1967. Is it possible you have a headstone for her?
When Eliz Armit (nee Robertson) died in 1949 the informant was Henry Robertson, son of Lochgelly but I have no information about him.
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Isabella McCrum Armit in 1914 and that she married Robt Scott. She died in Lochgelly aged 53 in 1967. Is it possible you have a headstone for her?
sorry nothing on above
When Eliz Armit (nee Robertson) died in 1949 the informant was Henry Robertson, son of Lochgelly
nohenry Robertsons in index
James Robertson d 07 Jan 1946 in Lochgelly. He was the son of Henry Robertson and Elizabeth Blair
Isabella Robertson (nee McCrum) d 30 Apr 1923. She was the daug of Isaac McCrum & Jane Adams.
It is possible that there are other issue of Henry and Elizabeth Robertson buried at Lochgelly but they were originally from Lasswade, though I see that some settled in Kelty. Anything you manage to find would be most appreciated.
sorry Sage nothing in index.
Norrie
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Thanks for all your efforts, Norrie.
Sage
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I have information on the Robertsons as i am descended from Henry robertson and Elizabeth Blair. Being a close knit coal mining family they moved around with the work. When one of the Naysmiths became a colliery manager in Fife his relatives followed -i.e Robertsons. I can even remember my granny saying she lived in Lochgelly for a while before returning to Midlothian.