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Title: Link: Family Relatives . org
Post by: SS from The Rhondda on Thursday 23 December 04 09:35 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know anything about this site ?
http://www.familyrelatives.org/ (http://www.familyrelatives.org/)

I saw an advertisement for it in 'Your Family Tree' magazine issue 20.

Just wondering if it is using FreeBMD data, or it's own transcriptions...
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 23 December 04 10:10 GMT (UK)
It *Must* be using a commercial transcription, because it refers to data after 1910.

I would suspect that after that date, the indexes are well-enough typed/printed to use OCR (Optical Character Recognition) to search, just like the searches on historicaldirectories.

They may not need to use human transcribers at all for later years.

Pauline
Title: familyrelatives
Post by: Amy K on Monday 17 January 05 19:24 GMT (UK)
https://www.familyrelatives.org

- View records online including the General Register Index
- Search over 300 million records 150 million records fully transcribed
- Download, print and view Family History records

Births 1866 - 2002
Marriages 1866 - 2002
Deaths 1866 - 2002


Pay-per-view though
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: Steve Ley on Monday 17 January 05 19:29 GMT (UK)
It's about time they are online, They were supposed to be online in November !
They were also going to e-mail when they were on line but i've not heard a thing, It's not a good start really.

Steve.
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: Amy K on Monday 17 January 05 19:30 GMT (UK)
They weren't working yesterday then I got an email today saying the site had gone live. However, I've just tried to buy credits and that is not working either!!

If you are searching the years 1866 to 1920 then it is fully transcribed and full name searchable - unlike freebmd which is not complete and 1837 which allows you to search by a full name, but doesn't guarantee that they will be on the page.
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: GRACELAND on Monday 17 January 05 19:32 GMT (UK)
 :-\
       You just put the damper on it !!

                   Pay-per-view though    :-\
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: Lloydy on Monday 17 January 05 19:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks for posting this Amy.  I have had a quick look and now need to buy some units :-\  More money!!!!!

Jan :)
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: sylvia 57 on Monday 17 January 05 20:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Amy.
I have to dissagree with you about the new site I have also been waiting for the email to say they were on line but still not recieved it.
But I went in today and yes they were on but I put 5 names and dates in that i knew were correct mine being one of them and it didnt bring any up so not a good start
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: sylvia 57 on Tuesday 18 January 05 09:21 GMT (UK)
well this morning it now lets you put all your details in to buy units  gets right to the end then says  declined after trying three different cards I gave up as i know it wasnt my cards
why has this site got up and running when it is not fully ready is beyond me  plus they dont have all the years they say
very dissapointing after waiting for the site to be running
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: tiredwithtwins on Tuesday 18 January 05 10:07 GMT (UK)
is it worth registering and buying units then?
does seem to be fully transcribed, but if you have serched for 5 definates and not got a hit, then its kinda dubious..... ???  :-\ :-\
anyone else had any luck before i shell out £6? is it pretty much the same as ancestry.co.uk?

sue :-\
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: tiredwithtwins on Tuesday 18 January 05 10:09 GMT (UK)
just another thought - it describes it as a surname index.....what info will you get for your 2 units?


sue :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: sylvia 57 on Tuesday 18 January 05 10:40 GMT (UK)
Hi tiredwith twins 
well i tried again this morning and they seem to be having loads of problems  still cant buy units
and again I have searched for 10 definates this morning and not a one came up  si I have my doubts about this site  I mean I do know when My mother ,father,sisters,husband,and child were born but nothing came up I have emailed them to ask about this so will let you know if i get a reply
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: johnP-bedford on Tuesday 18 January 05 13:54 GMT (UK)
well firstly I've just tried to find my own birth in Nov 1947 & I'm not there ??

is their database fully set up ?

secondly even entering full surname & first name , the results shown included names outside those parameters,

let's hope, these are just initial teething troubles

John P
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: tiredwithtwins on Tuesday 18 January 05 14:23 GMT (UK)
hmmmm.........wont be buying any units for a while then ;)

they kind of contradict their own publicity, dont they?


sue :-\ :) ;D
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: Amy K on Tuesday 18 January 05 21:59 GMT (UK)
If you are searching the years 1866 to 1920 then it is fully transcribed and full name searchable - unlike freebmd which is not complete and 1837 which allows you to search by a full name, but doesn't guarantee that they will be on the page.


The others years, before and after are not fully transcribed.
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: bel_jon68 on Tuesday 18 January 05 22:23 GMT (UK)
Just tried to register, but got an error message.  HOWEVER, I've had a look at the Site Tour and they are pretty clear about what is and is not on the site (despite the typos!).  They say the years 1866-1920 and 1984-2002 are fully transcribed and 1921-1983 are partially transcribed - perhaps they mean partially INDEXED, which is why some of you can't find yourselves?

In principal, I object to the pay-per-view sites, but in this instance the dates that are fully transcribed contain some of my brick walls, so I will give it a go when I can get registered and see how it fares compared to 1837online.

Bel
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: sylvia 57 on Wednesday 19 January 05 07:00 GMT (UK)
well as my grandparents were born in1881 and 1885 they should be on but they are not .
also as my son was married in 1999 they should be on and they are not  my mother was born in 1919 and she is not on
so dont know how they say it is fully trancribed as  i have found  this not to be the case
hope you have more luck than me .also buying units seems a task in its self some times it lets you and other tomes says not available.
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: Mikey on Wednesday 19 January 05 21:38 GMT (UK)
The free search for 1921-1983 doesn't even produce results for the surname and forename you type in.

Then look at their site tour where they give an example of searching for John Murray. The result... no John Murray. Look at line 3 on this James Murray to the left, George Musgarve to the right. What do you get if you click the . icon?

Not very promising so far

Mike
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: Steve Ley on Wednesday 19 January 05 21:50 GMT (UK)
John Murrey is between James Murrey and George Musgrove, If you click on the image I presume you get a list of names starting with James Murrey and ending with George Musgrove with John Murrey somewhere in between.

Steve.
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: Mikey on Wednesday 19 January 05 22:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks, what an idiot I am, I knew I shouldn't have had that extra glass of wine tonight ;)
Title: Re: familyrelatives
Post by: craggus on Friday 21 January 05 15:21 GMT (UK)
Okay then, I'll be the first person to post something nice about this website  ;)

I subscribed a couple of days ago and have found it to be most useful for 1866-1920, finding every entry I have been looking for. As far as I can tell, there is no need to view the actual image for searches within this period (unless you want to confirm that the GRO reference has been transcribed correctly before sending for a certificate etc).

The marriage searches are not as friendly as they could be - there is no facility to enter both partners names like there is on FreeBMD for instance (apart from after 1912, when I assume the maiden name started appearing on the actual indexes). I am surprised by this - it would be very easy for them to implement this on a transcribed database, simply having to match two GRO references.

Outside the years 1866-1920 it works out cheaper to use www.1837online.com (where it costs 10p per image viewed rather than 20p)

But overall it has been a good six quid spent, and a great aid for my family research!  ;D

Craggus 
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: ryan on Thursday 24 March 05 22:09 GMT (UK)
Hello all.
Received a message today (24th March 2005) from Familyrelatives saying something along the lines of that 'the databases are now fully searchable' etc. Is this announcement accurate, as it seems to me (from what I've been reading here) as if visitors to the site have been fully capable of searching the site prior to this message being sent out? Was the information available before today only partially complete, or something?

Ryan.

:)
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: Steve Ley on Thursday 24 March 05 22:17 GMT (UK)
In the e-mail they sent me was this special offer

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We would like to help you get started with your family history research by introducing an Easter Offer and giving you an extra 25% or 33% worth extra units. We have added an extra 25% or 33% to your units when you purchase either of the special bands between now and April 17, 2005.

Special Price Bands

•Receive 25% extra Units - 100 Units for only £8.00 (USD $14.00, E12 Euros) – Valid for 45 days – Replaces £10.00 for 100 units (10 pence per unit – 30 days).

•Receive 33% extra Units - 160 units for only £12.00 (USD $20.00, E18.00 Euros) - Valid for 45 days Replaces £15.00 for 160 units (9.4 pence per unit – 30 days).

Remember the Easter offer closes on April 17, 2005




Steve.
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: ryan on Thursday 24 March 05 22:24 GMT (UK)
You received this message because you have bought units, correct? I haven't needed to purchase any yet, so I am not familiar with this email. I have just recalled that I submit my email address to the site so I would be informed of status changes or new developments.

Oh well, it's not that important anyway ::)

Ryan.
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: Steve Ley on Thursday 24 March 05 22:30 GMT (UK)
I haven't bought any credits from them, Just registered with them before they went live.
They in fact sent me 2 different e-mails today both including the offer.
One of them does sound like the welcoming e-mail i would of expected a couple of months ago when they first went on-line but didn't receive which has put me off them a bit.


Steve.
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: sandie on Thursday 24 March 05 22:34 GMT (UK)
I received the same message as Steve, but I also haven't bought any credits before - in fact I couldn't even remember the site at first because I registered with them, didn't hear anything, forgot all about them!

Sandie
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: Dazville on Friday 01 April 05 20:12 BST (UK)
Hi i decided to register and do a few searches to see if any were correct and NONE of the searches came up so i dont think i will be purchasing any units until the site is functioning correctly, VERY annoyed that the site hasnt lived upto the expectations
               Regards
                Darryl
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: Laverdiere on Wednesday 06 April 05 17:43 BST (UK)
I read the post about the Family Relatives site with interest and decided to give it a try.  I was able to register and purchase credits.  I found a few of the names in the 1866-1920 section that I had not been able to find in the FreeBMD which was marvelous. 

When I looked for a woman's marriage I found it interesting that a lot of the woman who popped up had the husband's last name listed next to theirs.

Overall it was fairly well done and I can't wait for 1837-65 to come online so I can find some more elusive relations.

Laverdiere
Title: Re: Family Relatives . org
Post by: johnP-bedford on Wednesday 06 April 05 20:16 BST (UK)
just to say, I've used the site & purchased credits with no problem. However I do think the only useful function is the 1866-1920 search facility - but once you've done the selection it's cheaper to use www.1837online to view the index image. The main benefit is being able to select using mother's maiden  name / spouse's name - but that's only relevant from 1911/1912.

Does anyone know when either; the 1921 to 1983 ( or any later year) is going to have this same filter functionality, or when the 1837 - 65  "coming soon" for some time now !!! ::) :'(  is going to be available ???