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Title: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Andy May on Friday 11 July 08 17:19 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me trace KATE MINSON FRY (nee JAKINS) , please ,  last known address was 2 Ireland Terrace ,  Sculcoates in Jan 1908 . Believed to be born circa-1880-85
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 11 July 08 18:04 BST (UK)
Does this help ?
Couldnt find any combo of the Jakins / Fry names - will try again with this lass.

Births Mar 1872 
 
JEAKINS  Katie Minson     Hitchin  Vol3a P342
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 11 July 08 18:06 BST (UK)
Thats better !

Marriages Jun 1892   
 
Fry  Edward    Hull  Vol 9d P465    to  Jeakins  Kattie Minson     
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 11 July 08 18:07 BST (UK)
Hello Andy

Is this the Kate Minson Jeakins who was married to Edward Fry ?

If so, that marriage was Q2. 1892 in Hull, and Katie would therefore have been born earlier than 1881 / 1885.

There is a birth registration for a Katie Minson Jeakins in 1872 in Hitchin, Hertfordshire.

Does this sound like the right person ?

Newf -  you got there just before me !
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Andy May on Friday 11 July 08 18:09 BST (UK)
This is sounding VERY positive ! Thank you so very very much ! I'm researching this for a work colleague and only got a quick look at a poorly photocopied Birth Cert this morning .  The combo of Katie and Minson must be so unusal this has GOT to be her !

Watch this space !
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 11 July 08 18:12 BST (UK)
Cant see her / them in the 1901 census - want her researched prior to marriage ?
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 11 July 08 18:16 BST (UK)

Well, Here's Kattie with her family in 1881:

RG11. P. 1913  Fol. 45  Pg. 17

Blacksmith's Shop, Little Staughton, Beds.

JACKINS  (That is what the image appears to be)

Christopher  head  M  35  Blacksmith    B.  Beds. Little Staughton
Martha  Wife  M  34                               B. Hunts. Bluntisham
Kattie  Dau  10    Scholar                      B. Herts. Hexton
Charles  Son  7       ~                            B.   ~        ~
Christopher  Son  5   ~                          B.  Beds.  Little Staughton
Alfred  Son  3                                                ~           ~
Frederick  Son  9 mths.                                 ~            ~
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 11 July 08 18:29 BST (UK)
1891 - RG12/3942; Folio 116; Page 20 - Hull, Holy Trinity

5, Walcott Street / Terrace ?


The whole family has moved there ....


so the stage is set !


But there are no Edward Frys in Yorkshire in 1891 to my surprise !
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Andy May on Friday 11 July 08 18:37 BST (UK)
Thanks again ! With the initial info I've come up with the same census info as above from ancestry.com ... but yes , where was Edward  . . . . ?
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 11 July 08 18:38 BST (UK)

Goodness   ;D   What a complete porridge there - Hoxton, Hereford   ;D  etc.

I looked for the marriage of the parents - in case Martha was nee Minson.

The only one I can see is Christopher Jenkins  Q2. 1871 Hitchin  3a. 427, Martha Smith on the same page.

And if you try and track Christopher back - the surname name variations are legion!

Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 11 July 08 18:41 BST (UK)
1901 - RG13/4506; Folio: 153; Page: 19 - Hull, Holy Trinity
8, Walcott Terrace, Wallcott Street


(I should have seen them sooner - when looking at her dad Christopher at #18 !)

No HEAD shown ...

Cattie M Fry 29 Wife born Hereford, Hexton
Florence M Fry 4  dau Hull
Edward H Fry 1  son do
Annie E Fry 10 months  dau do


So Edward remains a mystery - might have to get the Marriage Cert
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 11 July 08 18:56 BST (UK)
I've looked for Edwards of an age with Kattie - well, a bit older .... trying Lodgers / Boarders / Visitors / Seamen etc ...... nowt obvious linking one to Hull ....
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: yonderpeasant on Friday 11 July 08 19:24 BST (UK)
I think Edward is born 1870 at Glandford Brigg Lincs.He can be found on 1881 RG11/4767/15/24 at 3 George Yard Kingston on Hull with father Edward aged 48  a widower and Dock side Labourer.


When searching the 1871 they are in Lincolnshire. Dad is 40 and Edward recorded as 7 but I think it is actually 1.
cant see them in 1891
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: adnil48 on Saturday 18 October 08 17:13 BST (UK)
Hello,
I am a decendant of Kate Minson Jeakins sister Alice Maud Jeakins.  I have quite a lot of information about the family.
Please get in touch.
Regards
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: adnil48 on Sunday 26 October 08 17:01 GMT (UK)
Hello Andy,

I have been trying to find you for ages.  Please, please can you get the person you are helping to contact me as he is the only one I have heard of that is a direct desendant of Katie.  By the way the surname is JEAKINS.  Her sister my grandmother was the first child born in Hull.  All the rest of them were born in Bedfordshire.  I do know where the name Minson comes from also.
I have left messages on Genes Reunited for you and the BBC chatroom.
I would love to contact Katies decendant.  Does he live in Hull, if not where?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards Linda
Title: Re: Sculcoates - 1891 / 1901 - FRY / JAKINS
Post by: adnil48 on Monday 16 February 09 17:04 GMT (UK)
Hello Andy,

I wonder if you ever got in touch with Katie Minsons decendant?
I am still trying to get information about the family.  Katie was my grandmothers eldest sister.  Unfortunately the name Jeakins has died out in Hull so unless your friend contacts me I cannot get any further.
Please could you reply to this and let me know if you have contacted your friend.
Regards Linda