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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Westmorland => England => Westmorland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: jillruss on Thursday 10 July 08 16:08 BST (UK)
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Is there such a thing as a Westmorland/Cumbria Burial Index? If so, does anyone have access to it and would be willing to do a few look ups for me? :-*
Often wondered why nothing from this county appears on Family History Online. ???
Jill
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What/who are you looking for? If it is in Kendal. I might be able to help.
Jen
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Hi Jen,
I was hoping to find some of my Troughtons' burials in Kendal - and a couple of others in Clifton.
If you can help with Kendal, that would be great. Looking for:
John Troughton (born 1750) and his wife Rebecca (c.1743-50), (their last known child baptised 1784).
Richard Troughton (1707) and his wife Jane (baptism not known), (their last known child baptised 1755).
William Troughton (1684) and his wife Agnes (1685), (their last known child baptised 1707).
Thomas Troughton & his wife Agnes (last known child baptised 1695).
If you can help with any of the above, I'd be very grateful. ;D
Thanks.
Jill
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Hi Jill,
I have been promising myself some time in Kendal records offices so maybe this is the excuse I need. But it will be some time next week before I can do it. If anyone else comes up with a quicker offer, jump at it. I offered to help someone else on a Kendal problem some time ago and then my life went crazy ( mother died) and I didn't get round to doing it. Still feel guilty so maybe I can do them both together.
My daughters went to school with Troughtons in Kendal, so they are still here!
Jen
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Thanks Jen,
That's really good of you - but no need to feel guilty if events overtake you - I know what it's like!
Kendal seems to have been the centre of the universe for Troughtons! I often wonder if the Troughton acting family are any relation. I still remember Patrick Troughton - the second - I think - Doctor Who. He was my favourite, until David Tennant came along!! ::)
Jill
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The local phone directory still has a fair number of Troughtons but not masses. I remember Patrick as Dr. Who and more recently, one I assume was a grandson in Robin Hood. They all look the same!
You can keep David Tennant. I preferred the one before him but can't remember his name.
Jen
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Christopher Eccleston - he was good as well. The one I never cared for very much was that Sylvester somebody or other. I think he was responsible for it being scrapped first time round.
Jill
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Hi Jill,
from the notes of another Troughton family researcher.
Burial: Holy Trinity Kendal [Parish Church]
Rebecca, wife of John Troughton of Fell side
15th January 1827 age 85
Regards
Carol
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Carol,
Thanks so much for that. That's certainly my Rebecca - they were from Fellside.
Not only have you given me her burial details but, by including her age at death, you've confirmed a tentative birth/baptism I'd found for her in 1743. I'd been a bit dubious about it because it made her nearly 8 years older than her husband.
I've just returned to my Westmoreland/Cumberland ancestors after concentrating on other branches for a while. I didn't really expect to find much but, thanks to Rootschat (and that very expensive Nonconformist BMD site for the Quakers in this branch - I can't tell you how much I've just spent on that site, or I'd have to kill you!! :-X) I'm going great guns. ;D
When you say 'from the notes of another Troughton family researcher', is that you? Or have you found something else? I don't suppose there's anything for Rebecca's husband John? - it sounds as though he must have survived her or I assume they'd have put 'widow of' instead of 'wife of'. If you are the fellow Troughton researcher - I'm happy to share what I've got on them.
I'm just getting too hyper now - I suppose I should really stop and make the tea!!
Jill
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Carol,
Sorry - just realised that we have been in touch before! It's getting to me!! :-[
Jill
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Hi Jill,
Another one of Patrick's grandsons, Jim, plays county cricket for Worcestershire and was on SKY SPORTS' Cricket A.M. last Saturday, but I think they come from the Midlands.
Regards
Chris
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Hi Jill,
I was in Kendal Records Offices this morning and managed to have a bit of a trawl through the burial records for Troughtons. Unfortunately, these records haven't been transcribed so it was a case of going through the micro-films, which are not the clearest in the world, so I didn't get very far. I decided that the best bet was to note all Troughton burials and to let you decide if any of them are yours.
So here goes.
A couple of early ones:
MI Inscription:
In the west floor of Kendal Holy Trinity - Here Lieth ye Body of Mrs. Agnes Troughton Late Wife of Mr. Miles Troughton who died sixth day of Sepber in the year of our Lord 1694. aetatis suae 80.
From burial records:
Oct 30th 1714 Margaret, wife of Stephen Troughton of Highgate
6th Jan 1715 - The son of Wm Troughton of Felside, deceased
Assuming this was your William, I need to go back to look at a different reel of film to see if I can find a record of his death.
So I moved on to a later period.
March 19 1754 - Dorothy, wife of Thomas Troughton, Bradley Field ( Just outside Kendal)
Dec 15 1754 - Elizabeth, duu of Richard and Ann Troughton, Bradley Field
Aug 2 1755 William, son of Thomas and Mary Troughton, Felside
Nov 9 1755 - Jane wife of Richard Troughton, Felside This looks promising, I think.
Jan 28 1756 - Miles, son of Matthew and Elizabeth Troughton, Felside
March 18 1756 - Richard, son of Richard Troughton of Kendal Workhouse
April 20 1756 - Thomas, son Thomas and Mary Troughton, Felside
June 2 1756 - Margaret, dau Matthew and Elizabeth Troughton, Felside
August 21 1756 - Margaret wife of John Troughton, Bradley Field
Oct31 1756 - Lucy, wife of Thomas Troughton, Fellside
April 29 1757 - Charles, son of Thomas and Mary Troughton, Felside
Feb 25 1758 - Thomas, son of Jno and Mary Troughton, Felside
March 3 1758 - Mary, dau Richard and Ann Troughton, Felside.
I stopped at the end of 1758 because my eyes were going round in circles but if you want me to have another go, I'm more than happy to do so. Just don't hold your breath, it could be a while before I get back!
Cheers,
Jen
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Hi Jen,
Thanks so much for your efforts.
Some of these burials tell a bit of a sad story - very early deaths. Poor Jane was only about 40-45 and it looks as if her husband Richard was in the workhouse immediately afterwards and lost a son Richard there - possibly Jane died after giving birth to him. Then, Richard may have remarried because there is a daughter Mary's burial in 1758, but daughter of Richard & Ann.
Going back to the 1715 burial for a son of William, deceased - I agree, this looks like my William. I only had 2 children for him, last one (my Richard) baptised 1707. I always wondered why I couldn't find any more, so it looks as if he may have died soon after 1707, and definetly before 1715. I wonder if his widow remarried?
Oooh!! Lots to get my teeth into there!! ;D ;D
I'd be really grateful if you did ever find time to look for more, but, as you say, I won't bank on it. I'm just pleased with what you've already found for me - thank you.
If there's ever anything you'd like looking up at the Beverley RO (East Yorks) - just let me know. I go every few weeks to do some look ups.
Jill
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Hi Jill,
I'm glad to have found something of use to you. I wondered about Richard being yours and had come to more or less the same conclusion.
I listed some baptisms too and will post them if you think they could be of use. They were between 1680 - 1700. I started doing it then decided that you probably had them so moved on to burials. I was about to tackle marriages but as I said earlier, my eyes went wobbly!
My partner has some East Yorkshire ancestors - just north of Hull, so I'm not sure whether they would come under Beverley but thanks for the offer.
Jen
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Hi Jen,
Yes please - I'd love to have the baptisms as well! I've been starved of Kendal info for so long that I'm like a kiddie with lots of sweets!! ::)
As for East Yorkshire - I'm north of Hull!! Beverley, to be precise. So any of your partners ancestors should be in the parishes covered by the local RO. Just let me know what you need.
Jill
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Do any of these come into your area?
Easington, Drypool, Sproatley, Withernwick, North Newbald and Aldborough. I think they are all in that sort of between Hull and Beverley bit but maybe towards the coast????
Baptisms: These have been transcribed so I didn't see the originals.
8/10/1682 Richard, son of Thomas T. of Felside
9/3/1684 - William, son Thomas T. Stricklandgate
14/3/1684 - William, son of Stephen T. of Stricklandgate ( Fellside)
9/5/1686 - Stephen, son of Thomas T. Stricklandgate
12/6/1686 - Mary, dau, of Stephen T. Fellside
8/7/1688 - Jonathan - son of Thomas T. Felside
5/5/1689 - Eliz(abeth), dau of Stephen T. ( Troughtan), Stricklandgate
21/9/1690 - Richard, son of Tho(mas) T. Felside
6/10/1695 - Agnes, dau of Thomas T. Felside
Spelling of Fellside varies and where I have put brackets, I am copying the transcription.
That's it for now. Hope it helps.
Jen
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Thanks, Jen.
All those children of Thomas T. are my William and his siblings. ;D
Yes - all those parishes are in east Yorkshire and, as you say, pretty much round the Hull area and towards the coast. Aldborough is on the coast and is one of those places which is disappearing rapidly due to coastal erosion. I have ancestors in North Newbald myself.
All the PRs should be at the RO.
Jill
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In which case - you just might be hearing from me!
Jen :) :)