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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Andrea78 on Thursday 10 July 08 06:55 BST (UK)
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Hi there, have been trying to put together a family tree for my new son and am wondering if anyone can help with details of my maternal grandmothers family. I am new to this and not sure exactly what information is needed but will try to give as much as possible. My grandmothers name was Patricia Conway b:28th nov 1923, her parents were Charles conway b: 14 nov 1903 and Mary Horn b: 13 March 1905. Anything further that could be found out would be greatly appreciated - thankyou
Andrea
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Hello Andrea
Have downloaded the marriage entry for Charles and Mary. They married on 13 Sept 1923.
He was 19 she - 18. He was a shipwright and she a Shirt maker. Both single -
Parents.Patrick Conway a Stone cutter and Mary Catherine Conway (Ms McEvoy)
Thomas Horn, Shipyard labourer and Elizabeth Horn (MS McCusken?). All parents alive.
By far the tidiest and neatest entry - with even the home addresses of the witnesses on it.
Shall send you a pm about how to go about research in Scotland. If you pm me with your e-mail address I'll forward it to you.
Regards, Steve :O) .
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Shall send you a pm about how to go about research in Scotland
Why a PM ?
I'm sure others would benefit if you posted the info ?
:)
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hi there I believe this may have been my g grandparents Patrick and Mary Catherine Conway, if they had a daughter named Susan who married a Robert Austin Thomson....id love to know what you know if so
thanks
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Has anyone had any luck finding Susan Conway wife of Robert Austin Thomson AKA Bertie o' The Celtic. im still desperately trying to trace what became of her she is my maternal great gran.
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Bertie could this be your Susan............
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That looks like a good possibility for Susan's details, garngad.
Some bio details here on Robert/Bertie Thomson www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Thomson%2C+Robert
bertieoftheCeltic, if you check the original registration certificate images that garngad mentions above from Scotlands People, you should be able to confirm all the necessary details on your g grandmother, Susan.
Monica
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There is a burial entry showing on SP in 1940 for a Susan Thomson, aged 20 (this must be an error given the death registration showing her as aged 30?).
2/4/1940
Lair
Glasgow, St Peter's Dalbeth Cemetery
However, from that celticwiki page, Robert Thomson was buried at Abbey Cemetery, Elderslie www.findagraveinscotland.com/grave/famousGrave/77894
Monica
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hi there,
thanks for the reply this is My susan for sure as the marriage details are correct! im having difficulty finding anything to do with her at all so this death entry will be good to get a look at. Thank you so much. so it seems she passed within 3 years of her husband..as far as we knew our gran didn't know what happened to her mother...
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we know a fair bit about Robert Austin Thomson, plus much is documented due to his football status. However we are having great trouble trying to locate the burial place of his wife Susan, and his father John Thomson. Berties dad is not buried in the family grave alongside himself and his mother and other members of the Austin family, so its a mystery thus far....As is the life of Susan after Bertie??
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What did Susan die of in 1940? She was young wasn't she :-\
Monica
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we literally have no knowledge of her as our grandmother was raised elsewhere...but her and her husband our G grandfather had been having a rough time when he died on our nans 3rd birthday in 1937..one can only guess things went south for her after that
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The 1940 death cert should provide you with some details that might give you more background. Worth viewing on SP if you haven't yet.
I did see some references to Robert and Susan having problems in their personal life. Bertie's demons were well recorded weren't they. Sad :-\
With an exact date of death for Susan, you could check Glasgow papers to see if a death notice is there to be found? Might give some details on burial location.
Monica
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S.P is down at the mo, so I will hopefully get a look next week...we would love to pay our respects to susan so need to get the death cert and see if we can locate her grave. We visit Berties grave in elderslie once a year...its still in great condition...the ground however is far worse off! sadly Berties career and life ended so soon due to consumption I wonder if the same was susans fate?
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I thought Bertie died of heart failure? Also it is thought that alcohol had a big impact on his health in those last years of his life.
Monica
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From the book Celtic: Pride and Passion by Jim Craig, Pat Woods (see here from google books www.rootschat.com/links/01owj/)
Have a read through that section as there are some details there re Bertie and his last years that may give you additional info.
Monica
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There is a burial entry showing on SP in 1940 for a Susan Thomson, aged 20 (this must be an error given the death registration showing her as aged 30?).
2/4/1940
Lair
Glasgow, St Peter's Dalbeth Cemetery
We had this from earlier. You could make enquiries to see if this is where Susan was buried. I think the burial index has an error re her age and this entry should correspond to the death we have in 1940 for a Susan Conway Thomson, aged 30.
There is a contact number you could try to see whether they can help you further with burials at Dalbeth. Let me try to find now.
Monica
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St. Peter's Dalbeth Roman Catholic Cemetery, unlike St. Kentigern's Cemetery, is still the responsibility of the Archdiocese of Glasgow. For burial records after 1955 and for information on earlier lair registers, you should contact Sharon Scullion at Archdiocese of Glasgow, 196 Clyde Street, Glasgow G1 4JY Phone: 0141 226 5898.
www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/ExploreRecords/Pages/Burial-Lair-and-Cremation-Registers.aspx
Not sure if Sharon Scullion is still in this role but hopefully she or someone else would be able to help you further.
Monica
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I believe the Celtic Grave Society take care of ex Celtic players lairs you could look them up I think Pat Woods (the writer/historian ) himself maybe involved with them to.
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It is a very active group. Some members have posted for help with searches here on RC in the past.
www.tapatalk.com/groups/celtic_graves/
Monica
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If this search is still live I have some information.