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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: celia on Saturday 05 July 08 00:26 BST (UK)
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Again tonight as i do on a regular bassis,i have been looking for surenames i want that are not there another 3 tonight Colquitt & colquett/ Hayes/ and three last week. The reason is i have lots of burials marriages,some christening mostly in the Liscard wirral area.I try to find anyone that might own these families. i don't think i will do it any more because i dont often find the name i am looking for.I try and help but if members don't put the interest on the board no one can contact them with any information.You could be missing out on finding new rellies.So come on put your interest on the board and help us to help you ;)
Celia
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In case you can't find it, the link to the surname interests table is found at the bottom of every page. Just click on "Your Surname Interests"
If you find a surname of interest you can click on the submitter's username which will take you to their profile from where you can send them a personal message.
Don't forget to submit the names in which you are interested.
David
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I'd like to add my support to Celia's and behindthefrogs comments, its well worth adding your surnames to the Surname Interest table.
Just think of it as Genes Reunited without the annoying Hot (Stone cold) matches!!!!!! ;D ;D
Kerry
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Well, I've had mine there for a long time. But so far, it's as useless as Lost Cousins to me. Nothing - nil - zilch! :'( Good idea, but doesn't help us all. I'd be interested to know how many Rootschatters have actually found rellies through the SIT. Probably lots.
MarieC
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I've found a couple of rellies. :D
It is two-way though. As well as posting your surnames, you need to check occasionally to see if anyone has added surnames that you are interested in.
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Yes, come on, sign up! I haven't had any success through this board yet either. I have tried to contact one or two people but never got a response!
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I've just added my surnames...been meaning to do it for a while now...thanks for reminding me :)
Elaine
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All mine are there too but nothing so far. I've had more contacts via my website and informal methods :(
I think it's the Joneses that are the main problem :-\
Gadget
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and the SMITHS........ ;D ;D ;D
justmej
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Im still still stuck in 1809 Clones Co Monaghan and looking for James Slowey and his wife Bridget(McCabe) Its looking like a personal visit from me unless someone can help :)
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I'd be interested to know how many Rootschatters have actually found rellies through the SIT. Probably lots.
MarieC
I haven't found any rellies but thats because i don't always Contact Jones in just Cheshire.Cheshire is a big place My Jones originated from Wheelock Chester.B.4 moving on to Staffordshire forget where at the moment :-\ ;D so it would be helpful if members put where in Cheshire.I have contacted over time a few Jones in Cheshire but i have always had a reply that no my Jones came from wherever in Cheshire.Which is miles away from Chester where Grandad was born.I have also had replies with queries about all my surenames.So i know members do look in now and then,by the way it wasn't 3 i never found it was 4 the forth being Theoplus ;D
Celia
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I have tried to contact one or two people but never got a response!
Had a couple of negative responses but mostly no replies :'( :'(
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How can I phrase this - glad to know I'm not the only lonely soul who hasn't had any responses from the SIT, sorry others are in the same boat!! I too have contacted one or two people, who have answered, but there is no relationship. Still, I do agree - like Lost Cousins, it's important to get the names on there so that there can be matching if anyone who is related comes along! :D
MarieC
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we hit the 70000 overnight :)
Topic: SIT Statistics: 9823 members, 70034 Surnames !!!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,52298.0.html
Keep 'em coming: the more names, in the table, the more useful it is.
Bob
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My names, or at least most of them, are on there but I have had very little feed back from them. Having said that, I have to admit to forgetting to check for others with my names and, when I looked at my list last night, I realised that I haven't filled in place details very well which makes it much more difficult for anyone else to know whether or not there might be a connection. I shall aim to put that right and to check the lists more often.
Jen
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After reading all these comments I started putting my surname interests in (since there are so many it should help your statistics Bob) but can't put in French or Russian families to name a few- is there a way to add them bypassing drop down menu?
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With the current situation where only one sixth of members have submitted on average seven names each we need these figues to improve considerably for the table to be of more use. If everyone submitted the names of at least their great great grandparents these numbers would double.
I realize some people don't know the names of all their gg grandparents but they need to be added to the SIT as you find them.
I don't have a problem with getting replies to my messages. I think the secret is to give some broad information which opens the prospect to more being available and to ask a general question about where and when their ancestors lived in the area. Questions like is a specific person in their tree tend to get ignored.
David
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I've had a few enquiries, but no rellies to date.
I guess most people who have put names here have also put them on other sites, so the score rate is unlikely to be spectacular. :-\
meles
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I think one of the problems is the 'invisibility' of SIT to many members. It's like the Lexicon. They seem to be hidden away. I'm not sure if there is a way to draw it to people's attention but perhaps threads like this might help - well done, celia.
Gadget
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Spurred on by this thread I've just had a look at my surnames on the SIT, and the "place" and "comments" are blank. Glitch perhaps?
The SIT is a great idea, and I know I've commented before about it being hidden at the bottom of the page - I still think it should be in a box at the top of the page somewhere ....
I've contacted a couple of people with the same surnames, but no matches with those who replied (some did not reply :-\). A couple have contacted me but no luck there either.
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is there a way to add them bypassing drop down menu?
The country/county menu is optional.
You can add names without using this feature, but I will add France and Russia to the list, as it is useful to have the country in the first column of the results:
@ All,
Let me know if you want other countries :)
Bob
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I've just had a look at my surnames on the SIT, and the "place" and "comments" are blank. Glitch perhaps?
Not that I know of :) Are you sure you entered them ?
And if you are sure you did, why didn't you tell me then, that there was something wrong ;D
Bob
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Just had a look and yes, there was a glitch :-[
My apologies.
BUT ....... why didn't you tell me ?
Bob
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Yes, I religiously entered them ;D.
I just did tell you ;) ... (I only just discovered they were blank a few minutes ago).
;D
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Well, it's fixed now ;D
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That was quick!
Thanks a lot, much appreciated Bob ;D
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Hi Aghadowey,
I have now added France and Russia to the list of countries :)
@ All,
let me know if you want any other countries.
Bob
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Thanks Bob- will add a few more now- over 50 done this morning.
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I've just added a bit at the bottom in the Reasearch Names or Interests part of my Profile. Would it make it more visible if we all did that?
Gadget
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Good work Gadget ;D
I'm afraid I just believe that the more sites I deposit my surnames on, the more likely I am to get a contact that is fruitful and so far it has worked on more than one occasion from this website and others.
Kerry ::) ::)
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ps. after a random browse, I've just added India to the list of countries ..
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ps. after a random browse, I've just added India to the list of countries ..
Just went to edit entry now that you've added India. Indien???
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Hi,
I always go back and check interests table as I uncover more info.
As I am relatively new to researching, everytime I find a new name eg. in a side branch, I search that name for postings in the county they are from.
Example; Leggett, Great Yarmouth , Norfolk
Great grandfather William Leggett (1842- ) had a sister who
married a Frederick Riches Delf, so search all Norfolk postings for the name Delf and Riches ( probably his Mothers maiden name)
You never know your luck ;D
trish
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After reading these posts i added a couple more surnames to my SIT list and then i did a 'search' for surnames. in the A--Z list. However, in the "O" section it tells me there were no "O" surnames listed -----Well i have 2 on my SIT list--Ostler & Oakley but they don't appear in the A--Z choice. It stated--No entries for 'O' ??? Poli.
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Polidor,
did you read this bit, at the top of the table ??
Surname Summary (This table is updated automatically at Midnight, U.K. Time)
Let me know if they are (still) not there tomorrow ....
Just checked, another "well, nobody told me ..." ;D
I'll look into it.
;D
Aghadowey,
got the german and english files mixed up :-[ should be OK now ;D
Bob
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Funny that, O and N decided to take a sunday break ......
So I cracked the whip and told them to get busy ;D
If I'd done nothing, they would have appeared for work at midnight :(
Should be OK now :)
Bob
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It stated--No entries for 'O' Poli.
Thats what happened to me a few days ago D I think :-\ I thought it a bit strange but didn't actually check it ::).Its great all you members adding your surenames makes me want to look in more often from now on.For the surnames i want.
Celia
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Bob,
How about Germany too. I have included my UK names, but will go and put my German and Russian ones on there too. I've also got Alsatian. ;D
Kath
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Hi Kath,
Germany has been in the "Country" list for ages, as well as the german states in the County list !!!
And even "Form. german province: Elsass/Lothringen" = Alsace-Lorraine !!
You should visit more often ;D
Bob
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Ah, you caught me out. I'll pay attention more. The comments were right. I add names, but then don't visit it enough. :-X
Kath
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I think one of the problems is the 'invisibility' of SIT to many members Gadget
Sit is in no way invisible ;) unless of course members don't read the smaller child board in blue ;D if you go to the index common room,
Click on Sit it takes you right to it
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,301.0.html Eccks that didnt ::)
Celia http://surname.rootschat.com/
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So why don't many members put their surnames up?
Just checked - I think gar did a calculation:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,52298.msg1600195.html#msg1600195
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I remember that question being asked before there were quiet a few cant be bothered and Don't see the point ;D
Celia
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I think if just a couple find connections it's worth it, as there is then hope for the rest of us. One day we will hit it lucky, right?
Kath
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I remember that question being asked before there were quiet a few cant be bothered and Don't see the point ;D
Celia
I think that's so sad if they can't be bothered :(
I thought people came on here to make connections and get help, etc.
Gadget
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Don't see the point - but its free ??? ??? Just spend a little time putting in a few names, checking every so often and maybe you come up with a connection.
Yes it is a maybe but the odds gets smaller (or it larger - never did understand betting? ::) ) the more names that are added into the table.
That's what makes rootschat a good site, you get help you can use the SIT, you can help others and unlike all the rest of the sites out there it doesn't cost a penny :D
Kerry
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how sad people can't be bothered :(
and what's the point ???
if Sueky71 hadn't been bothered to put her names on there
I would never had made contact
and would have lost out on finding a new relative and friend :)
thanks Sue
Elaine
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how sad people can't be bothered :(
and what's the point ???
if Sueky71 hadn't been bothered to put her names on there
I would never had made contact
and would have lost out on finding a new relative and friend :)
thanks Sue
Elaine
See, here is reason enough. Two people have connected. There is hope for us all. ;D
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I thought people came on here to make connections and get help, etc.
I'm sure some people do, but we're not all the same on RootsChat anymore than in any other area of life.
My reason for not putting up surname interests is quite simple - it is the same as that for not joining Genes Reunited - I'm not seeking new living relatives (got plenty I do know), I'm more interested in researching the past.
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I thought people came on here to make connections and get help, etc.
I'm sure some people do, but we're not all the same on RootsChat anymore than in any other area of life.
My reason for not putting up surname interests is quite simple - it is the same as that for not joining Genes Reunited - I'm not seeking new living relatives (got plenty I do know), I'm more interested in researching the past.
I have found in finding new relatives I learn an awful lot about my ancestors, gain stories I never would have had, get pictures of ancestors. I have been able to take my research back several generations with the help of "new" relatives. And it's also fun to have someone as interested in my specific research as I am.
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Me too Kath
It was recently through a new rootschatter who shares a family from Sussex with me that I cleared up some anomalies and discovered I was actually pursuing the wrong line. If we hadn't started discussing the Payne family I would still be pursuing the wrong family and paying out money for certificates for them. ::) ::)
Kerry
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I thought people came on here to make connections and get help, etc.
I'm sure some people do, but we're not all the same on RootsChat anymore than in any other area of life.
My reason for not putting up surname interests is quite simple - it is the same as that for not joining Genes Reunited - I'm not seeking new living relatives (got plenty I do know), I'm more interested in researching the past.
I managed to trace, or be traced by, a very high percentage of collateral relatives before i joined this site.
However, I still entered my main surnames. Even if you don't want to know or become friendly with you living relatives, you can share information and help them. You might even find out more about you personal Family History from them.
Gadget
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I really posted to indicate that there are other reasons not to post on the SIT other than "can't be bothered" and that similarly we don't all join RootsChat for the same reason. I'm not trying to stir up a hornet's nest, just to present a different view than that already expressed.
I've nothing against anyone taking a different view, we are thankfully free to do so here.
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I don't think any feathers were ruffled either. I absolutely agree with you, we all have different reasons for doing things, and it is always great to see others' reasons for those choices. I learn a lot from them, things I never would have thought of or getting me to think outside the box. I certainly need all the help I can get. ;D ;D And it would certainly be boring discussions if we all agreed.
Kath
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I think what I was trying to indicate to mshrmh was that you can lose a lot by taking a particular stance on this. If I'd not been open about my ancestors on other sites in the 'olden days' I would not have had a wealth of letters, documents, stories and photographs (sent willingly by cousins without any need for 'buddy-buddy' contact) which has helped me understand my family history and go even further back.
Because of their kindness in sharing our joint history, I've passed on what I've found to other relatives.
I still miss a 4th cousin from New Jersey who I met a few years ago via another cousin. We spent ages trying to find info on our common ancestors and shared lots. Sadly he died last year.
Gadget
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I'll second Gadget's point.
My gggg grandfather's brother's gggg grandaughter (!) gave me a load of info about the family of which I was not aware. Photos too! :)
meles
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Me too
I have a couple of copies of photos of various ancestors sent me by a couple of contacts that I would otherwise never have seen and one of them I have been able to pass on to a second cousin of mine who is also a descendent. Made her day too ;D
Kerry
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It's worth doing and it's worked out great for me.......my OH has an unusual name in his family tree - Kinvig. I found a statistic somewhere that in the year 2002 and there were only 293 in the United Kingdom (excluding Ireland and Scotland).
I have been contacted three times on RC about the Kinvig name and all three times is was a connection. I have also been contacted twice about another name I have on the SIT and both times it was a family member.
mab ;D
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I'll second Gadget's point.
My gggg grandfather's brother's gggg grandaughter (!) gave me a load of info about the family of which I was not aware. Photos too! :)
meles
That's great Meles. I have some of those too. I love telling people I was just writing to my 5th cousin once removed, or some such. the look on their faces is priceless. ;D ;D ;D
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I have actually learnt more from Sue than any of my 64 1st cousin's ::)
or any other family member
and I respect anyone's wishes not to put their names on the SIT but
I hope if any rootschatters who dont put their names on share my interest they will
get in touch :)
Elaine
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I agree that it's up to each person to decide whether to put their names on SIT, but if you don't put them there you may miss out on valuable information! While I haven't yet been helped by the SIT (or Lost Cousins), I have been enormously helped by distant rellies I've found, or who have found me! I live in hope of a valuable connection which may help to clear up my enduring mysteries!
MarieC
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Elaine,
I will certainly jump right in with that one and ask about your McCluskeys. ;D I'll send you a PM.
Kath
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I'd be interested to know how many Rootschatters have actually found rellies through the SIT. Probably lots.
MarieC
I haven't found any rellies but thats because i don't always Contact Jones in just Cheshire.Cheshire is a big place My Jones originated from Wheelock Chester.B.4 moving on to Staffordshire forget where at the moment :-\ ;D so it would be helpful if members put where in Cheshire.I have contacted over time a few Jones in Cheshire but i have always had a reply that no my Jones came from wherever in Cheshire.Which is miles away from Chester where Grandad was born.I have also had replies with queries about all my surenames.So i know members do look in now and then,by the way it wasn't 3 i never found it was 4 the forth being Theoplus ;D
Celia
I have some Cheshire Jones myself, although mine are from Wallasey.
Stephen :)
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I have some Cheshire Jones myself, although mine are from Wallasey.
Stephen
Did they live elswhere B.4 ?
Celia (nee Jones ;D )
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Not as far as I know. The Jones line from Wallasey starts with John Jones, who was born in Wallasey c1742 and married a Margaret. His son was Samuel Jones, born c1768 Wallasey who married Ester. Samuel and Ester had a daughter Mary (1799-1869) who married Aaron Whitby, who was born 1805, possibly in Tarvin. They married in St Oswalds Church, Chester.
Aaron and Mary are my 5x great grandparents.
Stephen :)
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maryjay
you have done some magic ;D how did you get your post Different topic on this topic.
Celia
Marys post moved by moderator... :D
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Sorry - my mistake
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I have been looking through Sit
http://surname.rootschat.com/ and have noticed that most just Give the surname then counties( i might be guilty as well :-\) would it be better if we put say, one name from our tree like Garner James B 1872 Staffs then you might find someone has that Garner on their tree. Just an thought ::)
Celia
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I completely disagree Celia. If there is full name in the SIT, if it is not on my tree I ignore it. On the other hand if there is a surname and county I will make contact. Looking back on my successful contacts I wouldn't have made any of them if the person concerned had posted their immediate ancestor.
The alternative of going as far back as possible is equally frought because the other person may not have got back that far.
Surname, county and location with a date range is far better every time.
David
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Bad thought then ;D ;D
Celia
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Since I got a new computer with Vista I've had to re-register, because Rootschat said I didn't exist. And I simply haven't got round to redoing my names - lazy perhaps, but I was so fed up.
Derby girl