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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: iang on Thursday 03 July 08 05:43 BST (UK)
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Hi Folks,
I am trying to locate passenger list for the Indian Queen which arrived NZ 1856 I am looking for a family called Nairn, it would appear that there was a James and Christina Nairn parents and children John Liddle and Isabella Nairn with a Robert reputedly born during the voyage out in 1856. Can anyone give me guidance how to track this info?
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Hi
Sorry to have to report, that amongst our very comprehensive array of online passenger lists, there is not a list for the voyage of "Indian Queen" to NZ 1856-57.
The vessel is recorded as having departed Liverpool UK on 1 November 1856 - arrived Wellington NZ, 30 January 1857.
Unfortunately also, there is no local newspaper, currently available for viewing online, for the years 1856-57 ( which may have published the passenger list).
The (newspaper) "Nelson Examiner and NZ Chronicle" of 11 February 1857 (at PapersPast website), makes brief mention of the "Indian Queen's" arrival ... 340 immigrants ... twenty two deaths, due to measles, occurred during the voyage.
Archives New Zealand (Wellington) hold copies of passenger lists, but I tend to think that had there been something available for the "Indian Queen", then it would by now, have been published on one of the several NZ websites covering shipping lists.
Lu
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I feared that might be the case, I have exhausted nearly every avenue that I know without success, thanks anyway. A miracle might still happen.
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?Have you followed up with Petone settlers museum
http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Council-Facilities/Museums--Galleries/Petone-Settlers-Museum/Passenger-Database/
re what documentation they got the info for James 1856?
Papers past
WELLINGTON. Our Wellington papers are to the 4th instant. The Indian Queen, the second of the Black Ball Line of Packets, arrived on the 30th of January, after a rapid passage of eighty-seven days. The Indian Queen brought 340 immigrants, and a number of other passengers. Twenty-two deaths occurred on board, from measles.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NENZC18570211.2.9&cl=&srpos=0&st=1&e=-------en--1----0-all
Bye
Althea
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Interesting my ancestors arrived on this ship also surname Fitness. I have papers saying they sailed from Liverpool just says during 1856. It says Emma the mother died 1st dec 1856 and Joseph the father 8th dec 1856 both buried at sea. Of the six of that family only 2 got here in one piece. So that tells me it must have sailed sometime end of 1856. Im in NZ cheers Marlsea
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Hi Marlsea
Yes the Fitness name is in the database as well
http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Council-Facilities/Museums--Galleries/Petone-Settlers-Museum/Passenger-Database/Post.aspx
As Lucy2 said:vessel is recorded as having departed Liverpool UK on 1 November 1856 - arrived Wellington NZ, 30 January 1857.
Bye
Althea
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Thanks had a look -- I have Joseph birthdate etc so how can I add it somewhere. Im a direct line to this man. Not so much for me but for future generations Ty Marlsea
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Papers past
WELLINGTON. Our Wellington papers are to the 4th instant. The Indian Queen, the second of the Black Ball Line of Packets, arrived on the 30th of January, after a rapid passage of eighty-seven days. The Indian Queen brought 340 immigrants, and a number of other passengers. Twenty-two deaths occurred on board, from measles.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NENZC18570211.2.9&cl=&srpos=0&st=1&e=-------en--1----0-all
??? Reference already made to this in Post # 1
I have papers saying they sailed from Liverpool just says during 1856.
??? See Post # 1
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I have Joseph birthdate etc so how can I add it somewhere.
Hi Marlsea .... and Welcome to RootsChat. :)
Not quite sure what you mean by ... "how can I add it somewhere" ?
Lu
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Hi again iang
Well, well, well !! ::) I have just discovered a partial passenger list for the 1856-7 voyage of the "Indian Queen" ! (Your NAIRN family though, not listed).
I need to verify its source! It gives me hope that somewhere, someplace, there is further information available. :-\
Bear with me ..... I'll do some further digging.
Lu
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Welldone Lu
Would be worth sending it on to the Shipping sites when you do locate it
BYe
Althea
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Hi Althea :)
Yes, but just need to find firstly where info was sourced from .... perhaps there's more of the passenger list lurking somewhere. ??? We might just get lucky with this one. :-\
Cheers
Lu
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Hi Lu
Have ALL those boxes and boxes of passenger lists at Archives been transcribed??
Might be worth someone checking the card index.
Bren
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Hi Lu,
Fantastic that you have at least found something, I will waited with baited breath in the hope that something more may eventuate.
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Hi Bren :)
Duh ! Silly me .... yes, it has just occurred to me that this 1856-57 voyage is rather too early to be amongst the already transcribed passenger lists at Archives, Wellington.
Lu
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Hi iang
Still digging !
Just wondered if you'd made contact with the researchers at the worldconnect site ? There are two ... possibly three, who have "trees" which include your James and Christina NAIRN (and their descendants in NZ) ?
http://wc.rootsweb.com/
Lu
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Lu,
Thanks I was unaware of this site, will follow it up now.
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Hi
..... just a little more ....
Have just spoken to the Early Settlers Museum at Petone (they're in my "neighbourhood"). Essentially what you see on their online database, is about as much information (I am told), as they have. However, at the Museum itself, they have an inter-active display (on early settlers) which sometimes offers a few more snippets of info - some of which has been contributed by descendants ( and who in a few instances, have left their contact details).
The museum attendant checked a little further - sadly they have no passenger list for the "Indian Queen" ... and although they have a note of the arrival of "James NAIRN", alongside his name is the word "Anon". (So, no further information on him, nor an indication of who supplied the details).
I have also just located the name of another James NAIRN (of Sanson), researcher - am hoping her e-mail addy is still valid ? Will however send you the contact details, via a PM.
Lu
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Hi Lu
I was just surmising as there are shelves and shelves of boxes.....
Is there a list of which years have been transcribed??
Bren.
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Hi Bren
A good question ! Bit of a "curly" one too. ;D
Can't answer it with certainty either.
Archives (Wellington) in their helpful little booklet (" Card Indexes") suggest that more information can be found in the help-binders (in finding aids section) .... or "ask the desk archivist". ::) (Dates of passenger and immigration lists which have been indexed, also given in booklet.)
Incidentally, all those "shelves and shelves of boxes" (or the "boxes on those shelves and more shelves" ) I thought, contained the REPRO passenger lists . ???
[Now have a link for a chap who apparently holds a passenger list for "Indian Queen" .... am awaiting his return email].
Lu
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I am also searching for a list of passengers on the Indian Queen arriving in Wellington, New Zealand in January 1857. In particular, I am interested in the names Glover and Walker.
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Hi babclive
Have added a response on the other thread (which carries that same message as the one you have placed here.) ;)
Lu
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the 1857 passenger list can be viewed here:
Indian Queen (ftp://http://www.familytreecircles.com/indian-queen-28081.html)
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Hi
Unfortunately the link you've provided - "Indian Queen" -doesn't appear to be working.
Lu
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I mist have linked it incorrectly, here is the url
http://www.familytreecircles.com/indian-queen-28081.html
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Thanks. :)