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Title: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: anneben on Tuesday 01 July 08 22:12 BST (UK)
I am looking for DOD for a Archibald McNiven Braynion born 1844 Muthill and his wife Elizabeth Miller born around 1844 and were married  April 25 1867 Perth. Any help would be appreciated.

Ann
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: irret on Tuesday 01 July 08 23:16 BST (UK)
http://www.familysearch.org
Archibald Braynion
Birth    09 MAR 1844     Muthill, Perth, Scotland
Father    William Braynion   
Mother    Margaret McNiven
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: anneben on Tuesday 01 July 08 23:19 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out when he and his wife died. I have his parents, but really would like to find out when and where they died.

Thanks for the help.

Ann
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: irret on Tuesday 01 July 08 23:22 BST (UK)
Have you tried scotlandspeople?
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: anneben on Wednesday 02 July 08 07:06 BST (UK)
I have tried on numerous occasions and not have been successful.

Ann
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: Piglet01 on Wednesday 02 July 08 22:49 BST (UK)
Just tried SP myself on the free search and can't find them.

Have run out of credits after a little moment of madness downloading 3 wills and getting some entries earlier today.

What we need is some kind soul to pinpoint them in the 1871 census forward - to clarify if they remained in Scotland

Good luck.

Regards,   Steve    :O)
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: anneben on Wednesday 02 July 08 23:24 BST (UK)
Thanks for trying to help, I am hoping to go into Edinburgh later this month, so fingers crossed I will find something.

Ann
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: breaky on Wednesday 02 July 08 23:50 BST (UK)
1881 Scotlands people census  has

Archibald Braynian,(a mis-type for Braynion?) born c. 1842, Braco. Perthshire, a general labourer,
living at Clackmannan
with his wife, Elizabeth, born 1844 at Blackford, Perthshire.

Their children include William and Elizabeth Mather Braynian both aged 14.

If you check these twins on Family Search, Archibald Braynion and Elizabeth Miller are given as their parents.

(As the record for the Archibald born at Muthill in 1844  on Family Search is only a submitted record, perhaps he really was born in 1842 at Braco?)
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: anneben on Thursday 03 July 08 07:13 BST (UK)
That expalins that I can't find his death. Thanks for your help, will have a look at the deaths on S/P and hopefully find it.

Thanks.

Ann
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: breaky on Thursday 03 July 08 11:24 BST (UK)
Archibald was still alive at the 1891 census, but unlike the 1881 details earlier, I can't find the equivalent record on Scotlands people - have tried both surname spellings listed below and a few variations - no luck!

(At 1891 the children are as given in 1881, with Clackmannan as birthplace and Archibald's wife is "born at Blackford", so I think this must be your family?)




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Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 03 July 08 22:11 BST (UK)
Elizabeth, wife, looks to have died in 1905 in Tulliallan Fife. Surname on the index is showing as BREINGAN. The family in 1901:

Archibald Breingan 56, Labourer In Papermill, b. Muthill
Elizabeth Breingan 59, b Blackford
Catherine M Breingan 25, b. County Town, Clackmannan
Archibald Breingan 17, b. County Town, Clackmannan
Christina M Breingan 15, b. County Town, Clackmannan
Mary M Small 12, daughter (?), b. County Town, Clackmannan
John Taylor 25, boarder

Address:  Kilbagie Street, Kincardine, Tulliallan

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 03 July 08 22:13 BST (UK)
Likely death for Archibald in Edinburgh in 1912:

Archibald McN BREINGAN, 66, St Andrew District, Edinburgh City.

Monica
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: breaky on Friday 04 July 08 00:11 BST (UK)
Oh yes, Monica - that's brilliant - "McN" must be for "MacNiven?
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: anneben on Friday 04 July 08 07:21 BST (UK)
Hi, Thanks to everyone that has helped in the search for Archibald and Elizabeth Miller, I will follow up with your  information and will let you know how I get on.

Thanks once again.

Ann
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 04 July 08 09:12 BST (UK)
Ann

The 'McN' is as showing on the index for Archibald. You would think it stood for McNiven...but as always, you can't be certain until you look at the actual cert...but it does look likely  :)

Monica
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: anneben on Friday 04 July 08 23:11 BST (UK)
I downloaded the death certificate for Archibald McNiven Breingan who died 15 Dec 1912 but this is strange as it states his parents were Andrew Breingan and Annie McNiven, I have his parents as William Braynion and Margaret McNiven. Also I have Elizabeth Millers death certificate which she died August 25 1905 Tulliallan.

I am not sure what is right.

Thanks again to everyone that has helped.

Ann
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 05 July 08 00:42 BST (UK)
Ann

It would seem that the person who reported Archibald's death has probably got confused with his parents' names. You have his OPR birth entry to William and Margaret. His childrens' names include the use of parents' names as middle names which support William and Margaret as parents. He also shows in 1851 with these parents.

You could also look at his 1867 marriage cert in Blackford, where he himself would have given the names of his parents for the register.

Monica
Title: Re: Archibald McNiven Braynion and Elizabeth Miller
Post by: Reynaud2 on Sunday 23 November 08 15:40 GMT (UK)
I am looking for DOD for a Archibald McNiven Braynion born 1844 Muthill and his wife Elizabeth Miller born around 1844 and were married  April 25 1867 Perth. Any help would be appreciated.

Ann
I'm only a week or two into Breingan research but the Archibald McN Breingan I have found in the 1901 Census lived in High Street, Dollar and was born in Tulliallan abt 1849. His parents seem to have been William Breingan b.abt 1868 in Braco and Minnie J. b. abt 1869 in Torryburn, Fifeshire.
The Archibald Breingan (no McN) b. abt 1845 in Muthill, lived in Bank Street, Tulliallan in 1891 and Kilbachie Street in 1901 with his wife Elizabeth Miller.

Perhaps you already know this in which case I apologise for the repetition.
Reynaud2