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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Sussex Lookup Requests => Sussex => England => Sussex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: sandra70 on Saturday 28 June 08 13:47 BST (UK)
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Hi
Looking for Henry Jones with his parents -
I have him with his wife and family 1881 1891 and 1901, also his
marriage certificate in 1872.
Would like to see him with his parents in 1861 and 1871 if possible.
Marriage - 1872 in the parish of Heathfield
Henry Jones aged 20 Bachelor, Hawker, resident in Heathfield, Father Samuel Jones, also Hawker
married Mary Sheppard aged 19 spinster, Hawker, resident in Heathfield - completely blank where
father's name should be!
(witnesses are Elijah Jones and Martha Jones)
In 1881, he states he was born Black heath Kent, and is living in Maynard Green
Wife Mary b 1853 children Henry aged 3 and mary ann aged 6.
In 1891 he states he was born in Iden Sussex, still with wife and now extra children
In 1901 he states he was born in Peasmarsh ?? again with wife Mary and children.
Would love to find him with Father Samuel if at all possible.
Hoping that someone has better luck than me :)
many thanx
sandra
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You will find Henry's wife's birth cert on
GRO Births March quarter 1853
Shepherd Mary Ann Ticehurst Fef 2b 72
Perhaps her father's name appears on that.
Roy G
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Hi Sandra
What about this one for 1871
RG10 1045 70 15
Blackdown, Heathfield (which is Punnetts Town today)
Samuel Jones, 40, Ag Lab born Sussex
Sarah Jones, wife, 42, born Sussex
Henry JOnes, son, 20 pedlar, born Kent
Martha Jones, daughter, 17, Pedlar, born Kent
Obed Jones, son, 14, ag lab born sussex
Elizabeth JOnes, daughter, 11, scholar born Sussex
Sarah Jones, daughter, 8 scholar born Sussex
Ellen Jones, daughter, 6 scholar born Sussex
John Jones, son, 3 scholar born Sussex
It is an extremely poor copy and I am going to download so that I can read pobs
Kerry
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Hmm very difficult to read but I've made out some of it.
Samuel - can't make out the town but it ends in Field
Sarah born Winchelsea, Sussex
Henry - again very difficult to read
Martha born Tenterden, Kent
Elizabeth born Beckley, sussex
and all the younger children were born in Heathfield, therefore they should be in the same place for the 1861 census.
Kerry
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Martha's baptism in Tenterden (1854) is on the IGI.
Roy G
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Found them transcribed as James
RG09 569 160 12
Blackdown, Heathfield
Samuel James, 33 head Besom maker, born not known
Sarah James, 30 wife, born Winchelsea, Sussex
Samuel James, son, 12, born Hawkhurst, Kent
Henry James, son, 10 born Wittersham, Kent and that fits with what I couldn't read on the 1871 ::)
Martha James, daughter, 7, born Tenterden, Kent
Abia James, son, 4 born Bickley, Sussex
Elizabeth James, daughter, 1 born Heathfield, Sussex
Kerry
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thank you Roy and Kerry, that's brilliant :)
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Now this is interesting
I have found a possible marriage for Samuel Jones but its after a couple of the children were born.
Samuel Jones and Sarah Day 1855 December quarter
District - Rye
volume - 2b
Page - 14
The reason I think it might be them is that the next door neighbours on the 1871 census are a Martha Day and her son John and his wife Charlotte.
Kerry
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Just had a search on the 1841 census and found the following:
H0107 1105 5/8 9
Ore, Hastings
There is a Day family which includes Martha Day age 35
son John age 7 and a daughter, Sarah age 10
Kerry ;D
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Hi Kerry,
thanx for your research, I also noticed the Day family, and wondered if it was a maiden name....
I have now found the Jones' in 1841, but haven't tracked them down in 1851 yet.
The field you mentioned earlier is catsfield.
Once again, thanx for your help :)
Sandra
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Of course, yes Catsfield. It looked like Tatsfield but there isn't one of those in Sussex ::)
Glad to help.
Kerry
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Hi
Just coming back to this bit of research and was going to order Mary Ann's birth
certificate, as suggested by Roy G earlier in the post....
Would anyone be able to find Mary Ann before she married, so I can be sure of
a father's name to have checked, so I get the right certificate, please.
Any sightings of Mary Ann greatly appreciated.
The spelling of Shephard, obviously varies as well.
many thanx :)
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My husbands great grandfather was Henry Jones wife Mary Ann Sheppard. His Grandfather Charles Jones and his mother Elsie Mabel Jones, My husband is 80 years old and remembers his grandfather well, a rather larger than life character who played the squeeze box in return for a pint at the local. In sober times he joined the Salvation Army but often fell from grace and had to resign the pledge. He was married twice , his first wife died. He had one daughter and 2 sons and a step daughter by this marriage we do not think he had any children of his own by the second marriage but had step children. We would love to know more about the Jones side of the family and any relatives out there. Thank you Marjorie
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Hi, took me a while to get back into here, lost my login and password !!
Not sure if this is the same Henry Jones, as his parents were Samuel and Sarah...
Henry Jones 1852 - 1909
Hope this helps ?
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Sorry just re read my message and it may read ambiguously .
I Have
Samuel Jones b 1831 m Sarah Day b1829
Henry Jones b 1852 m Mary Ann Sheppard b1853
Charles Jones b1893 m Minnie Lena Dora Hamper b1895
Elsie Mabel Jones b1916 m George Henry Barnes b 1909
Alan George Barnes [My husband] b 1938
So I think we have the same family.
Marjorie
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Hi Majorie, it looks as if they could be one and the same.
Mary Ann Sheppard is my husbands great grandma, i finally tracked down the
details of her mother, after a lot of searching as they went under several names.
Can look out the details if you are interested.
Think you are able to pm me after a few posts, might be 3
best regards, Sandra
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Yes any info would be most welcome. Told my husband that he shares a great granny with your husband. My husband was born in Hawkhurst Kent and I see Hawkhurst crops up in the birth places in the census so the family have not moved around a lot. Any help much appreciated.
Regards
Marjorie.
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Hi Majorie, I have sent you a pm, hopefully did this correctly, as a long time since I have sent one, might end up in your junk mail...
Mary Ann's mother was Sarah Ann Shepherd born c 1830, her parents were James and Diana nee Smedley. Diana was born at sea, married James in Ninfield.
Sarah Ann Shepherd also known surnames Bacon and Porter she died 1909
Have some info I can email you in regard to Diana, who was quite a character ;)
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Yes the message thing worked I replied with my e mail did you get it ? Thanks for info would love to hear about Diana , my husbands Grandad was quite a character as well, must run in the family !
Regards
Marjorie