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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wiltshire => England => Wiltshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: jimmid on Friday 27 June 08 08:48 BST (UK)
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Hi,
My relatives imegrated to South Australia in 1851 under the assisted passage program on the ship MARION. On the ship's passenger list they are
listed as:
Given Name Surename Age Occupation Place of Birth
George Middleton 37 Farm Laborour Wiltshire
Anne (ne Johnson) 32
Johnson 13
Harriet 11
Joseph 9
George William 7
Sarah 6
Alice 1
Any nformation on where in Whiltshire they lived and George and Anne's marriage or parents would be greatly appreciated
Thanks,
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Welcome to RootsChat Jimmi :)
This looks like the family (minus George) in 1841 - in Yorkshire rather than Wiltshire!
1841
HO107/1339/5 12 18
Thorne, Yorkshire
Back Street
Ann Middleton, 20 (=between 20 and 24), born in county
Johnson, 3, born in county
Harriet, 1, born in county
Unfortunately, the 1841 census doesn't show exact birth places. The 1851 census does but I have a feeling the family had already left (what date did their ship leave?)
:)
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Christenings (extracted IGI records, from www.familysearch.org)
JOHNSON MIDDLETON
Christening 19 JUN 1838 Thorne, Yorkshire
Father GEORGE MIDDLETON Mother ANN
other possible children christened at the same church to parents George and Ann:
HARRIETT ANN MIDDLETON 23 FEB 1840
JOSEPH MIDDLETON 22 AUG 1841
RICHD. MIDDLETON 24 DEC 1848
ALICE MIDDLETON 12 APR 1850
as far as George William and Sarah are concerned, this could be them:
GEORGE WILLIAM MIDDLETON Christening 26 MAR 1843 Hatfield Near Doncaster, Yorkshire
Father GEORGE MIDDLETON Mother ANN
other christenings in the same church to a George and Ann Middleton:
SARAH JANE MIDDLETON 01 JAN 1845
ELIZABETH MIDDLETON 06 DEC 1846
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This is lucky! George and Ann married just the quarter after the start of civil registration, meaning their marriage certificate would show their fathers' names! :D
Marriage Dec quarter 1837 Thorne registration district, volume 23 page 655
Ann Johnson - George Middleton
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Thanks,
This is great info. Yes, the ship left london for portsmouth March 1851, then Portsmouth for Australia 24th March 1851. The ship MARION was wrecked on Troubridge Shoal a few hours from Port Adelaide, South Australia in July 1851, but all crew and passengers were saved.
Thanks
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Well well :o :o
Shame they didn't stay until census night! I can't identify George in 1841 - there are just too many contenders :-\
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Thanks,
The family settled near Port Adelaide at Tam O'shanter Creek. I believe two of the girls drowned in a dam on their property a few years latter, but I don't have the details in front of me now.
I noticed there was no Richd, or Elizabeth on the ship. Had they died?
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I can't see them on the 1851 census and FreeBMD shows possible deaths:
Elizabeth Middleton
Jun 1848 Thorne 23 500
Richard Middleton
Jun 1849 Thorne 23 520
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Thanks for that Tati.
You mentioned that George and Anne's marriage certificate would show the parents names etc. How do I go about getting a copy?
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Parents names is a bit exagerated unfortunately - it will only show their father's names ...
The details contained on a marriage certificate include:
Date and place of marriage.
Name, age and marital status of man and woman.
Occupation and usual address.
Name and occupation of each party's father.
Names of the witnesses.
Name of the person who solemnised the marriage.
Shame it won't show a birth place!
Anyway certificates can be ordered online here - cost is £7
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
:)
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How can I find info on George and Anne's birth place, and father's details? ???
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Well, it may not be easy ... :-\
(The 1851 census would have said, that's why I was so sorry they leaft too early!)
We can hope that their fathers and/or witnesses had exotic names, that their christenings are on the IGI ...
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As you can tell, I'm only new to this. I will apply for a copy in a few days, and post the details when it arrives Do they email or post the certificates?
Thanks again for your help.
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They post them :( :P