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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Herefordshire => Topic started by: jarlotte on Thursday 26 June 08 15:13 BST (UK)
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I am looking for the parents of a John Abrahall born about 1590 could be in Yarkhill Herefordshire married a Margaret Lovell 1 may 1613 in Ashperton. They had at least 5 children Margary, Margaret, John, Bridgett and Elizabeth. I would be grateful for any information about him. Thank You
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Hi, I'm descended from Abrahalls from the Newent, Gloucestershire area. John Abrahall born abt 1755 and his wife Martha ended up in Aston Ingham, Herefordshire and are buried with a headstone in the churchyard there. If you theink there's a connection, happy to share further info.
The name Abrahall is registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (http://www.one-name.org/index_A.html) although there is no link to a specific website for the name but you can get in touch via the site if you're interested. You will also find loads of links if you do a general search - the family held land in Foy, Herefordshire and have been traced back to 1372 by various people. There is even a coat of arms featuring three hedgehogs!
Good luck and let me know if you need further info. on the Glos. branch.
Best wishes
Karin
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Hi Karin
I'm afraid I do not think there is a connection , the only son that I have found for John and Margaret is a John Abrahall and I think he only had 3 daughters Elizabeth, Susanna and Martha all born in Yarkhill but thank you for your reply.
Regards Julie.
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Hi Karin
I am at present transcribing Aston Ingham Parish Registers and if you do not have the info Martha was buried 2 june 1812 aged 55.
Regards
Tony
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Many thanks for the info. We had been able to get the date of death from the headstone and this confirms she was buried a few days later.
Best wishes and good luck with your research.
Karin
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Hi Karin
On baptisms now, you may have these.
Parents John and Martha
John 1 Aug 1784, William Morgan Curate
Betty12 Dec 1785, W Lloyd Baker Rector
James 21 Mar 1788, William Beale Curate
Priscilla 2 Nov 1791, Charles Whatley Rector
Parents James and Mary
Jane 12 Mar 1786, Charles Whatley Rector
Mary 2 Dec 1787 William beale Curate
I have given the officiating minister
Only up to 1791 will contact again if I find more
Regards
Tony
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Hi Tony, I have got the baptisms now, thanks very much!
All the best
Karin
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Hi Karin
None after 1791
Regards
Tony
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Thanks, if anyone is ever interested, we know what happened to Priscilla so feel free to get in touch. Not sure about the other siblings.
I did a quick google on the Rev Whatley and others may be interested to know there is a site with many images of Aston Ingham and people who lived there over the years - you may know it already but the link is:
http://www.commanet.org/searchLink.aspx?language=English
A search on Aston Ingham brings up all the records for that village.
Thanks again, Karin
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jarlott
Is this the John Abrahall of Yarkhill who has a will
"ABRAHALL, John - of Munckberry Court, Yarkhill.
sonne in law Guy DOBINS: 2 children; sone John ABRAHALLS daur Elizabeth; grandchild Margeret: daur of my sone Oswald WIDDRINGTON & Margeret his wife; the younger children of my daur Margeret WIDDRINGTON; Francis LOVELL; my sonne John's daurs Shusanna & Martha ABRAHALL.
Witnesses: John VICKERES.
Proved 28 Jun 1661 - HCC; Ref FHL#91632. "
Have you found out any more about him?
Ann
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Hi
I am afraid I haven't got any further forward in finding out about John Abrahall and Margaret Lovell, It is the same John Abrahall that left a will in 1661
Julie
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thanks for the prompt reply Julie,
Not sure that we can get much further...
Ann
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Hello,
I am a direct descendant of John Abrahall born at Munckbery Court, Yarkhill, Herefordshire in 1601 through his daughter Margaret who married Oswald Widdrington.
Does anyone know who his father was or if he had any brothers or sisters?
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Hi
I am afraid I do not know who the parents of John Abrahall or Margaret Lovell are. My husband is a direct descendant of his daughter Bridgett who married Guy Dobyns 1n 1651 in Yarkhill. Their is a John Abrahall who was baptised in Stretton Grandison in 1582 to Hugh Abrahall but not sure if this is the right John.
Julie
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Hello Julie,
Your husband's g......grandmother was a sister to my g.......grandmother.My family actually still live in the area some four miles from Yarkhill and there are still Abrahalls at Yarkhill.Have you got a copy of the tree showing the descendents of Bridgett would love to see it .Stretton Grandison and Yarkhill are barely a mile apart so there must be a connection.Have found the following extract from Hugh's will
ABRAHALL, Hugh - of Stretton Grandison, 5 Apr 1614.
eldest son William: by my 2nd wief - 20£; younger son James - 20£; wife Jane and eldest sonne John by my first wife; John to have 1 ½ acre in a field called Astfield purchased of Roger LOVELL and 11£.
Witnesses: John JAUNCEY, Isa: AILWEY, wth others.
Due from: Richard BAGGOTT, John ABRAHALL, John LOVELL, John HOPSWOOD, John GRAFTON, William ARUNDELL, Thomas GLEDY, Richard SOUTH, Mathew EVANS.
Proved 14 May 1614 - Hereford; Ref FHL#91632.
My information shows John Abrahall to be born around 1601 yet you have found one born in 1582 - possibly John Abrahall born 1582 was Hugh's son and then John born 1601 was John's son - do you think that's possible ??
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Hi
I have Johns marriage down as 1st May 1613 in Ashperton to Margaret Lovell, which would mean that he couldnt have been born in 1601. His first child Margery was born in 1614 in Stretton Grandison, I got the record from Family Search. I dont think he was married before because in his will he does mention a John Abrahall son, but their is a John Abrahall bapt. in 1617 to John and Margaret. I do have my tree on Ancestry and Genes Reunited if you wish to see the line of descent from Bridget, if you dont belong to either I can give you a short version on here.
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I think you're correct - he is the son of Hugh when I checked my paperwork from family search 10 years ago it had recorded birth about 1601- so it has been updated since.It's tracing Hugh now and finding out who his first wife was and who his parents were.I would love to see a short version of your tree.I have been in touch with some other Abrahalls who I believe are related and I will forward any info I receive from them.Keep in touch Best Sue
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Hi Sue
okay Bridgett married Guy Dobyns in 1651 in Yarkhill, they had 4 children Samuel, Joyce, bridgett and John. John married Mary Little in Gloucester in 1682, they had 3 children Samuel, Robert and John all born in oxenhall. John Married Margaret Clarke in 1704 in Oxenhall. They had 6 children, Anne, Robert [died young], John , Samuel, Margaret and Robert born 1712 all in Oxenhall, Robert married Mary keele in 1740 in Newent, they had 7 children, Robert, Margaret, Mary, John Edward, Elizabeth and Samuel 1750 all born in Newent. Samuel married Mary Gough in 1791 in Corse, they had 5 children Samuel, John, Mary, William and George 1808, he was born in Staunton Worcestershire he married Elizabeth Hall in 1834 in Hempsted Glos. they had 4 children Frederick, Edward, Fanny and George born 1837 in Corse he married Emily Wiltshire in 1872 in Cardiff Wales, they had 10 children all born in Cardiff, Edward Henry Dobbins [my husbands great Grandfather] married Mary Jane Ashley in Roath cardiff in 1899, their daughter Elsie May Dobbins born 1910 in cardiff is my husbands grandmother, she married in Wales but moved to England between 1939 and 1942 with her husband Charles Prosser and family.
Hope you can understand the short version of the Dobbins tree
Best Wishes Julie