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Hi all
I have been going through paper work this weekend and noticed lots of rellies start in England/Scotland or Wales go to Ireland then go back again..then back and back again. even to New York..Canada...Australia..India..Switzerland ...France......endless list..even St Kits
ANYONE with an Irish roots please let me know....even if family lore say you are...as there is always some truth in them sayings.
Anything,,,might not help me..but might be that brick "pushed out " to help someone else.
anything from 2008 backwards.. ;D
Steve
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Steve- what exactly are you looking for here?
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Anyone who is not sure Aghadowey.
Anyone who has """born in Ireland"""" many of us do...that odd rellie in the corner
lots give up when they see that.....we all have missing rellies...I have a few born in "Wales"....I gave up with that one.
There must be some way for us to link these people....everyone looking...might be able to find a common link....someway....however small...we need to try.
Don't you think.
if they were all in one place..like here...we might be able to find their families.
Steve
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The key to finding information on Irish relatives is the location (civil parish if not the actual townland not just a county or 'Ireland') and their religion. Often the clues to an Irish location are in the country the family moved to and it's a matter of checking all possible sources to get any details before you start looking for a family in Ireland
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The key to finding information on Irish relatives is the location (civil parish if not the actual townland not just a county or 'Ireland') and their religion.
I'm in that boat. For years I was told that Grandfather was born in Ireland. Turned out HE was born in Liverpool but it was HIS father who had been born in Ireland.
So I have CHRISTOPHER McGURN born c1814 Leitrim married to MARY GORMLY born c1820 Roscommon. They are both on the 1841 census so obviously came to Liverpool before the potato famine.
Did find out from Christophers sister (in 1841/1851 census records) marriage in 1851 that their fathers name was PHILIP.
So the question are:
1. How do I find out which Townland/Parish they came from?
2. Were they of different religions?
3. Two different Irish Counties so how did they meet and then marry?
Names Christopher and Philip seem to be Protestant names (Catholics usually have Cornelius and Patrick) plus family folklore is that they came over because of being the black sheep of the family (although this was thought to refer to work and not religion)
Biggest problem I can see is the surname. How would it have been spelt in Ireland. I know from certificates I have of their children plus two entries on census records that the name has been spelt McGarvey, McGorrin, McGwidle just to name three variants.
Still I suppose having this brickwall keeps me out of mischief ;D
Jean
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Jean, first of all Co. Leitrim and Co. Roscommon are adjoining so they may not have lived too far from each other in Ireland. Are you sure they actually married in Ireland? It wouldn't hurt to check English marriage registers to see if they came to England separately and married there.
Have seen Christopher and Philip used for Catholic children so those names don't really mean your family weren't Catholic.
Unfortunately English records usually just say 'Ireland' but it would be a good idea to search for everyone in the family in census records just in case there's any clues.
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I would assume you've tried Cyndi. Here's the link anyway. However, I have to say I'm in the same boat with my French, Jelly and Herdman links all to Cork but about the famine time not a lot was recorded.
http://www.cyndislist.com/ireland.htm
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Are you sure they actually married in Ireland? It wouldn't hurt to check English marriage registers to see if they came to England separately and married there
Hadn't thought of that. Will give that a try at the weekend.
Their eldest son Charles on all census records, apart from just one, say's he was born Leitrim. The odd one back in the early days (think it was the '41 census) says Liverpool. If only the 1841 census gave more info.
The family were living in Liverpool and for 'where born' it had the letter I for the parents and Y for Charles. So I did wonder if Liverpool and spent ages checking the GRO index's too many Charles McG*** to send off for.
I had wondered about the religious side as some siblings married catholics whilst most married into Cof E. It would also folklore 'black sheep of the family' as I think maybe in those days it was not the done thing to marry outside your religion. Little bit like it was in the late 20th century in some parts of Northern Ireland.
Jean
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Hi
My Paternal Grandparents came from Ireland
My nan came from Ballymena her maiden name was Scullion born 1922 i've got some info on her parents and further back but what has got me stumped is my Paternal Grandfather.
I don't have anything on him his name was John Michael Connell i've been told he was born in dublin but don't know for sure i can't even find a marriage between him and my nan
He left my nan and the kids when they where young i've also been told that he could have had links to the IRA but again no facts just a rumour he's also meant to have had a drinking problem but again just a rumour ::)
I've put this side of the family on a back burner for the mo otherwise i would be bald from all the hair pulling :P
Claire
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I have similar problems. My Lawler/Lollar/Lawlor family came over to SW Scotland between 1865 and 1870.
My g.g. granny is Julia Lawler b. abt 1854 just 'Ireland'
Her sister is Catherine Lawler b. abt 1848 Kildare, Ireland
Their Father is Michael Lawler, d by 1871 and an ag. lab from Julia's marriage certificate.
However their mother was Catherin Bonn/Burns/Byrne b abt 1821 Carlow, Ireland
Theres also a grandson called Robert, b 1865 Kildare, Ireland.... I suspect but I'm not 100% sure who his mother is...
No parishes, just counties.... and so now I'm stuck.
There seems to be a similar family on igi in Athy, Kildare, but I can't be sure. Then its just a dead end....
I suppose I should be grateful for the census records we do have as without them I definitely would not have got this far...
Tx
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So I have CHRISTOPHER McGURN born c1814 Leitrim married to MARY GORMLY born c1820 Roscommon. They are both on the 1841 census so obviously came to Liverpool before the potato famine.
Did find out from Christophers sister (in 1841/1851 census records) marriage in 1851 that their fathers name was PHILIP.
So the question are:
1. How do I find out which Townland/Parish they came from?
2. Were they of different religions?
3. Two different Irish Counties so how did they meet and then marry?
Names Christopher and Philip seem to be Protestant names (Catholics usually have Cornelius and Patrick) plus family folklore is that they came over because of being the black sheep of the family (although this was thought to refer to work and not religion)
Biggest problem I can see is the surname. How would it have been spelt in Ireland. I know from certificates I have of their children plus two entries on census records that the name has been spelt McGarvey, McGorrin, McGwidle just to name three variants.
Jean, I have a similar problem - a Leitrim/Sligo marriage. First of all, try this link for surname variations in Leitrim/Roscommon. http://leitrim.brsgenealogy.com/surnames.php
I also have a link showing surname name density per county in this part of Ireland - PM me if you would find this helpful.
Secondly, Leitrim was and still does have a tiny population and there was lots of interaction between there and Roscommon. Don't give up hope. Just goes to show that by sharing info, some of these intractable problems become solveable.
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If that odd Irish rellie is giving you the round a round,get it off you chest,put them here.......
And hopefully someone might find a link for some of us...it might be by some strange chance......the same one as someone else ;D
Steve
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Bradley/Devlin/Mcbride/Murphy :)
I had a lucky break. My mum's whole family went to the US in 1923 and I found the passenger list that gave my Grandfather's place of birth as Buncrana which is in Donegal. So for ages I thought that was where he was from......but not really :-\ I knew who his parents were from his death certificate. So I did a search on IGI. I couldn't find his christening but then I really didn't expect to as he was Catholic. However, I did find a sibling. I ordered the sibling's birth cert and he was born in Meenamullaghan, Donegal. Meenamullaghan is about 4 or 5 miles from Buncrana as the crow flies.. Now I'm stuck again ;D
Bonner/Toner/McGowan/McElwee :)
Just by chance I discovered a tree on Ancestry that had my dad's brother on it... :o So I contacted the tree owner and lo and behold it was a cousin that I didn't know existed. She knew about me though. Anyway she had her older sister contact me and her sister gave me the names of my Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother...she like me didn't know too much about our family. She did know that our GGM was from Kirkston and that our GGF was from a townland farther north. So armed with that information I went googling to see where this place was :D I found a book about the Letterkenny area that someone had published years ago. It had census records and some other info that was quite interesting and I did see my GGM's family there in Kirkston...the next generation. Then I found a website dedicated to Donegal genealogy that is maintained by Linet. She was researching the area I was interested in and I found my great grandparents through some baptismal records that she had posted. They lived in Gortnacorrib, Donegal and had three children. Bit by bit. Then out of the blue I got contacted by a loverly gentleman who was researching the clergy in the Letterkenny area. He had seen a post of mine and recognized the names I was looking for and he faxed me a three page obituary from a Derry newspaper of one of my relatives. It was'nt competely legible but another RCer kindly emailed the same obit so that I could enlarge it. My relative was a local parish priest but the funeral was attended by well over 500 people from all over Ireland. Not only did it list all the attendees and parishioners there but it listed all the immediate family members attending the funeral and their relationship to the deceased and better yet where they were from in Ireland. What a goldmine. There was my GGM with her children and all the cousins and uncles and aunts. Now I'm stuck again ;D
mab
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Hello Steve,
Are you still keeping your hard copy records on rolls of wallpaper or have you entered the technological age and commenced keeping records on CDs? If it's the former you'd better head to the wallpaper shop as there are loads of people with Irish roots dating from 2008 backwards.
Christopher
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Me Too.
GG Grandfather Samuel Reid all documents after he arrived in Scotland state born in Ireland no county. Every Census from1851 onwards. Marriage Certificate,Death Certificate all just Ireland.
Parents John Reid and Jane McNeice.
I have got absolutely nowhere. I even used a professional searcher, who came up with a marriage certificate for John and Jane but it wasn't the right John and Jane but she sent the certificate to me anyway as I had paid for it.
SO, Samuel Reid is on the back burner for now.
wini
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The Census ... "Ireland" thread contains a few tips ... www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=311832.new;topicseen#new
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Rumour has it but have never found any Irish rellies yet.
My gran always said we were Irish. Does my red hair count ? ;D
Any Gubbins' out there.
Tina
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I have a few branches from Ireland. Most of my Irish ancestors came straight to Preston, Lancashire -
MCKENNA - My mothers maiden name, we have no idea where our McKenna ancestors came from within Ireland. The first McKenna to come to England was Robert, who settled in Liverpool. His son James, my great great great grandfather, moved to Leyland, Lancashire.
CALLAGHAN - My matenal great great grandmother, Mary Ann Callaghan, was born in Dublin in 1863. Her family came to Preston, but we know very little. Her father could have been an Andrew or a James or had both names and came from Dublin probably. Her mother was called Mary Alice, as far as I know, and probably came from County Longford.
SCOWCROFT - My 4x great grandfather (grandfather of the man who married Mary Ann Callaghan - Mary herself was the mother-in-law of James McKenna's grandson) John Scowcroft was supposedly born in Ireland c1811, and came to Preston. There is a theory that his father was an English soldier, and his mother may have been Irish.
MURRAY - My 5x great grandparents James and Bridget Ellen Murray were both born in Meath in 1804 and 1814 respectively. They had quite a few children and moved to Preston, Lancashire. My 4x great grandmother was their daughter Bridget. James and Bridget are buried in the local Catholic church, just a few hundred metres from where I live, and I went to see their grave when I first found out.
BROWN and NICHOLSON - My 4x great grandmother Ann Brown was living in Preston when she married Edward Nicholson. Ann was from Tipperary and Edward was from Westport, Mayo. Little is known about them before their marriage, although I do know that Edwards father was a Patrick, who was born c1791 in Westport.
Stephen :)
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Rumour has it but have never found any Irish rellies yet.
My gran always said we were Irish. Does my red hair count ? ;D
Any Gubbins' out there.
Tina
Most of my relatives have the "Black Irish" appearance of dark hair, fair skin adn blue eyes.
Stephen :)
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I used to work with an Irish lady who had flame red hair.
She always said that she wasn't true Irish as they had ''coal black hair''.
She sounded true Irish to me though.
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Anyone who is not sure Aghadowey.
Anyone who has """born in Ireland"""" many of us do...that odd rellie in the corner
lots give up when they see that.....we all have missing rellies...I have a few born in "Wales"....I gave up with that one.
There must be some way for us to link these people....everyone looking...might be able to find a common link....someway....however small...we need to try.
Don't you think.
if they were all in one place..like here...we might be able to find their families.
Steve
Hello Steve,
This thread could get confusing with of loads of different surnames in addition to the usual collection of counties. There are already at least thirty eight boards for people with Irish families ... one for each county in Ireland plus Resources boards for Antrim, Dublin and Ireland as well as Antrim Look Up Requests and Offers.
Christopher
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Agree with Christopher that this thread will probably cause confusion and would be better if people posted separate topics under appropriate board.
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Better not add my rellies then.
Johngirl ;D ;D ;D ;D
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No I think you should...this is the Lighter Side...not everyone looks at the Irish boards ...maybe someone will read this and twig on a name.....I totally agree with Steve's line of thought...think out of the box ;D
And, it's a chance to share our woes and successes and maybe some one will get an idea and progress in their research. Focusing on a particular "Irish" board is fine but generalizing is a good thing too ...and I think that's what Steve may have been trying to point out to us....sharing is good. Sorry Steve I may have got it wrong but that's how I interpreted your original post :-\
mab
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I agree with Mab. What does it matter, I only have a slight interest at present and only occassionally look at the Irish board. I do look at the lighter side, TOT all the time, and it is just as interesting as some of the "Rubbish" no offence meant, on these boards.
wini
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I was feeling a bit foolish for posting.... but then again I'm really intrigued to see who is stuck too, with whom and where from (oh yes I know... Ireland... ooops :-[ )
Its partial curiosity and hope that I'll get to the other side of my brick wall....
But then again if EVERYONE with Irish ancestors posted... well it would be a pretty big thread ;-)
Tx
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I'm stuck on my Irish lot - Peter Leedom who was born somewhere in Ireland c. 1810, probably Dublin - he was a silk dyer and living in Macclesfield in 1841 with his family and an 80 year old called Mary Leedom, who may have been his grandmother - she seems a bit old to be his mother. As they seem to have come to England in the 1830s they miss the Griffiths Valuations. He could write so I know that Leedom is "correct" so to speak, but there are precious few of them in Ireland and I can't link them in, and its a name that can end up being spelt so many different ways :-\
Irish genealogy is very frustrating!
Carole
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Irish genealogy is very frustrating!
Carole
I agree....
I have gg grandfather, Thomas Flynn b c 1828 Cork, nothing else except 1881 census and dau birth cert (1878) were he is named, cannot find a marriage to her mother or census later/earlier to confirm.... ???
Also major brick wall my g grandmother, Bridget Baggot.....must have told a few porkies...familylore say b Waterford c1880....from marriage cert....long story...got her after 1902 when she married thou' ;D
Cas ;)
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Sorry Christoper and adhadowey,
But here also is my alusive Irish ancestor.
MARY ALLEN born somewhere in Galway ireland in 1845. She married my g grandfather Albert Isaac in St Michaels in the City Liverpool in 1869. They lived at Toxteth Park Liverpool until their deaths. Mary had a sister Margaret Allen born also somewhere and sometime in Galway Ireland.
Johngirl ;D ;D
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Toxteth Park must be a big place because everyone in my OH's tree seemed to end up there...no matter where they came from...... ::) His grandfather told me that Liverpool was the capital of Ireland and I believed him :D......so maybe all the lost Irish are there ???
mab ;D
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I've posted Johngirl a reply on the Galway board 8)
mab, a large number of Irish landed at Liverpool ... many stayed there, others moved elsewhere in Britain and the rest caught a boat to America, Australia, Canada or elsewhere. I'm the son of a Scouser 8)
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Christopher...not just Irish...Toxteth Park also had a lot of folks from the Isle of Man strangely enough ??? Son of a Scouser eh ;D........ should have known that by your
strange warped loverly sense of humour ::)
mab
p.s. Just kidding :D
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Yes it must have been a big place. Unfortunetly where my g grandfather and mother lived they have demolished most of that area. They lived in Arthur Street Toxteth Park for many years. I would have loved to go there and seen were they lived but that is now impossible. Even the church they married in is now gone thanks to World War 11.
Thanks Christopher I have seen your reply to me on the Galway board. Now I will be hounding you for information on there Sorry.
Johngirl :) :) :)
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I like this `faint hope` thread. :) I am hoping one day to find where my Shaughnessys came from. County, townland or parish, I haven`t the foggiest. The censuses I have from Salford and Manchester, where they settled, give only `Ireland` and like so many others with Irish roots we seem to have so little chance to find our ancestors. This is what I have on the original family that moved to England. ( Sometimes there were variations in the spelling of Shaughnessy` but they did not seem to use O.` They were Catholics.
William Shaughnessy. b( about) 1808 (on the 1851 Salford
census) blacksmith striker. . b. Ireland
Ann Shaughnessy , wife, b 1809 b. Ireland
James Shaughnessy, son, (living nearby) b 1831 b Ireland Cabinet maker.
Michael Shaughnessy un b 1833 Tenter Cotton b Ireland
then a gap of 10 years,( perhaps there a previous marriage and Ann was the second wife) and more children b in Salford. Thomas b 1843, Edward b 1845,and Mary Ann.b 1847)
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Another dead end is the birth of:
Annie Maria Boyle, Catholic, b about 1862-63 in Co Tyrone. seems to have been an only child born to John Boyle b about 1834 and his wife Mary b about 1839. they moved to Manchester before 1871 when Annie was a child.
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Thank you all
I agree with you both Chris and Aghadowey...I know you spend hours helping everyone...and
.........this could/ can /might /maybe /Willl /wont /help /hinder
but it is the lighter side.
"not everyone looks on the Irish boards"
"Think out of the box"
"being stuck..just might be someone else's stuck"
"It is nice to know you are not alone"
"any faint hope .... is good"
"Generalizing is a good thing"
"we all need a boost to keep going"
"lots are sitting on information that they do not know is relevant for others"
I just thought a place for people to post might help ......
and Yes Chris wallpaper tree still on the wall.....I have GED-com now and six months on I am still only touching the surface with the information on it...well I do have 45ft by 6 ft to go...I will get it all on puter soon... ;D...I hope
Steve
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Hi Griz
On www.familysearch.org there is this birth
Birth 2 July 1869 Tyrone
Anne Boyle
Father: John Boyle
Mother: Mary Donnelly
Hope it's useful
Claire :)
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I wouldn't even know where to start. And I wonder if there is enough room:
Connolly/Nicholson
William Connolly (mother's maiden name McGuire) moved to Scotland in the 1860s and married Sarah Nicholson (mother's maiden name Broffet), also from Ireland. I would assume they were both from the north, but really don't know for sure. They had two children and then moved to the US.
Murphy/Moore
I have baptismal records for my gg grandfather Patrick Murphy from Ballon, Co Carlow. the priest could not find the marriage of his parents though, Michael Murphy and Ann Kealy. That could mean anything or nothing, though, as they were married some time in the 1820s. The whole family (parents and 6 sons) came to the US in the 1840s. Patrick married Margaret Moore (his second wife, my gg grandmother) in Cohoes, NY. Margaret was born in Ireland but I have no idea where.
Martin
My ggg grandparents, Bernard Martin and Margaret Healey, were both from Ireland and married in Liverpool. According to the 1851 census, Bernard was from Co Meath and Margaret from Dublin. They married in England, had a daughter, and then came to America in 1852, just before my gg grandmother was born.
McClusky/Davey
This one is very confusing. I know my gg grandmother Mary Davey was born in Mayo, her father in Sligo, and were connected with Curry. Mary and her family came to the US in the 1840s and settled in Louisville, NY, near the Canadian boarder. My gg grandfather Timothy McClusk(e)y supposedly came to Canada as a young boy/man by himself and then down to Louisville, and was supposedly from Curry, Co Sligo, but in attempting some research, I don't think that is true. It is on his death cert, but I think it was presumed because his wife was from there, or a story/rumor that started. So who knows what is real there.
And that is just my dad's side. I have some on my mom's side that I haven't a clue on either. Hayes and McLeans from Wexford supposedly, Scott from Galway, and throw in a Finnell from who knows where. They all seem to have left Ireland about the same time frame, late 1840s, except my Connollys. I think that's it. :-\
Kath
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Bless your heart, Claire. :)
Thank you for looking.
I did see that Anne Boyle before and discarded that listing as unlikely, as she is always referred to as 'Annie Maria' on censuses and her marriage certificate (Manchester St Mary's, (the hidden Gem)) and also she would have been much younger when she married, if that is my Annie.
On the 1971 census her age is 8. too. Annie Maria told of her voyage to England as being very scary and being tossed about on the ship, and seeing whirlpools, and fearing they would all drown, so I think she must have arrive shortly before this census. She was old enough to have remembered such things , unless she was relating her parent's memories?)
She is on the 1881 census as being 18, with some other Boyles , lodgers, from Leitrim.( Her father deceased. 1874 ) Lodgers James Boyle M ( where is the wife?) age 72 cattle salesman, and Thomas Boyle un age 18 Hog salesman. all say born Ireland.
She married Thomas Boyle, Jan 8 1883, his age given as 22( father also Thomas Boyle. catttle dealer and, it seems, a witness at the marriage )
Annie maria gave her age as 21.
On the 1891 census both Thomas and Annie Maria gave their ages age 29
On the 1901 census At last we find the counties! Annie Maria b. Tyrone, Thomas who she married , from Leitrim. The vague family story was they all came from Leitrim so the Tyrone Co part was a surprise. :)
They had four children. Annie Maria died young though, Mitral Stenosis) 21st Nov 1908. One of her daughters Margaret, who present at the death gave her age as 41. ( I thought maybe a mistake, a seven written like a one?)
She is buried, I found out from a kind soul who looked it up for me, at St Joseph's cemetery, St Patrick's section, in a shared grave. Her age, on their records, given as 42.
Other names mentioned were, a Mary Duffy was a witness to the marriage, and the family had a Robert Knox (B Ireland) un b about 1844, as a lodger for at least 10 years on the 1871 and 1881 census
Somewhere, out there in Ireland( Tyrone? ) is a Catholic church with the record of my Annie Maria Boyle.
Then there are my Shaughnessy's ........ :-))
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Rumour has it but have never found any Irish rellies yet.
My gran always said we were Irish. Does my red hair count ? ;D
Any Gubbins' out there.
Tina
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Hi Tina -- Just came across your reply regarding Irish roots and wanted to let you know there are quite a number of Gubbins family members with roots in Ireland......we have a genealogy group at yahoo.com known as the Gubbins Group. If you are interested, please feel free to join us there.
Deborah
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Gubbins? My ancestors had a house called Ballynanty House in Co Limerick just outside Bruff and it was taken over by the Gubbins family around 1846.
Although I don't have Gubbins in my tree, I would like to join the group. It may throw up some new leads for me.
Jenny
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Often the clues to an Irish location are in the country the family moved to and it's a matter of checking all possible sources to get any details before you start looking for a family in Ireland
Aghadowey, just curious (or desperate!) to know how the destination country gives us a clue to the Irish location our ancestors came from?
All of my Irish ancestors (Hegarty, Flaherty, Kelly, Savage, Reynolds) came from 'Ireland' to settle in Liverpool, UK. Only one of ancestors, a Lappin, gave their county of origin. :(
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In some countries birth, marriage and death certificates give birthplaces, names of parents, etc. For example, if a John Kelly from 'Ireland' goes to America and then marries in New York City the marriage certificate will list the names of both parents. His death certificate will list birthplace and parents' names (if known by informant).
Other documents might also give details. A few years ago I wrote a letter to Bronx Police Department asking for information based only on a name, approx age and a photograph of person in uniform showing badge number. They sent me pages of information from his file including pension record which gave marriage information, death of his widow, etc.
Gravestones sometimes have a place mentioned. People give their houses names of their place of origin sometimes. Local histories often give information on early settlers. Obituaries might mention when a person arrived from Ireland and where they came from there. Cemetery records might list clues.
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Thanks for the explanation, Aghadowey :)
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Hi all,
We are all just clutching at straws sometimes with our Irish research. Sometimes with little to go on you never know who might just have that connection we are looking for. This has worked well for me in the past.
My Brickwalls;
County Down;
Anne DEAN
born c. 1837,
parents Patrick
Dean and Elizabeth FITZPATRICK, first married to Patrick NOLAN ( not sure whether this is in Ire. or N.Z. as she remarries there 1873)
MOLONEY/COSTELLO James and An/Nancy, daughter Ann born 1842 said she was born Derby, but cant find her/them on English censuses. Ann marries 1869 in Australia and then they heads to N.Z.
Also interested in MISKELLY's of Belfast
CUMMINS of Tinyriland,Carlow ( have some info on them)
God you've got to love them all :D
They made us what we are.
Trish
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Jenny, Is it your Creed family that you are referring to in the area of Bruff, Co. Limerick? We have a Bridget Creed (dau. of Patrick Creed and Hanora Hayes) who married William Gubbins between 1856 and 1858. They emigrated to the US before 1859, settling in Chicago. Bridget had 2 siblings that I know of, Patrick and Ellen. I believe Bridget was born Oct. 11, 1826 in Martinstown. If I can help in any way, I'd be happy to see what I have in my database. Deborah
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Hi Deborah,
Yes my Creeds came from Bruff and surrounding areas. At the moment I don't have any Patrick Creeds that early! Though I'm pretty sure many of them are related.
I do have a John Creed born 4 July 1819 Dromin, married a Bridget Hayes on 6 Oct 1846 Ballinvreena. Bridget Creed died and John and his family went to New York... but then the trail runs dry. I have a couple of likely candidates on the US Census but John Creed died 29th Oct 1871 before the more meaningful censuses came in. Without looking at the parish records, I don't know how many children they had but his younger brother mentioned it was a large family.
It was John Creed's grandfather Charles Creed who lived in Ballynanty House, after he died in 1811 there was a court case to get his wife out of the house. There was a lease for 3 lifetimes on it but it doesn't mention when it started ::) I do know that his wife eventually left and died shortly after age 90 in 1842 and then all references to the house mention the Gubbins family.
It would be lovely if you do have any Creed references that you could pass on.
Jenny
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I am the same lots of roots go back to Ireland. I have most of the info in Scotland but nothing from Ireland. Thought it worth a mention incase anyone recognises a name. Cheers Evelina
names I am looking for:=
Richard Coulter,abt 1853 Northern ireland, parents Alexander Coulter, a farmer & Elizabeth Williamson
Richard's wife Margaret Wilson, abt 1853 Northern Ireland, parents John Wilson (Wine & Spirit Merchant) & Elizabeth McClelland, later married to a ? Clark.
Sidney Wade abt 1795 Belfast, parents William (a Labourer) & Jean
Husband of Sidney Matthew Currie, nothing known
John Brown abt 1818 Ireland, father Ralph (A Farm Labourer) (I know just ignore it) and worse his wife Mary Ann Black abt 1814 Ireland, Father Thomas (Farmer) Mother Mary Roslin.
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as someone born in, and living in Dublin with about 75% Irish roots I suppose I should speak up!
The Fitzsimon branch from near Bray, Co. Wicklow - I've traced this side back to 1800ish, they married Doyles and Cantwells from Co. Wicklow.
The Sheridan branch from Dublin City, right back to shoe-makers and cabbies in the early 1800s, married to Dillons from Ballymaghrue, Co. Wicklow. This branch also includes Cathcarts (land steward) and Wilson from Kings County/Offaly - both of whom possibly originate in the North of Ireland. Also included in this branch is Hodges, my mysterious coastguard ancestor, and Nevin from Cork.
The Kavanagh branch from Skerries in North Co. Dublin back to the last 1700s, which includes Clarke, Monk/Moncks, Rooney, May & Hughes
and finally the imports! - Wilson from Yorkshire (originally Cambridgeshire and possibly Lincolnshire.. ) and the rest Shepherd, Bickerdike, Hayes etc.. form Yorkshire. Apparently the Hayes family, who were based in Sherburn-in-Elmet, had some connection back to Ireland - possibly Co. Galway.
Shane
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;) Another one clutching at straws -
I have GGG grandparents Paris William Augustus Bradshawe born in Cude East Indies 77th Regiment of Foot) who married Isabella Kernahan (born in Ireland) on 12th May 1830 in Fethard, Diocese of Cashel & Emly, Munster Province Ireland.
Even with this information I can not find anything about Isabella (Where she was born etc) or anything about her parents - its like they never existed :-\
They - Paris and Isabella also had children born in Ireland but again nothing until they came to Chertsey Surrey and had 2 of the three children baptised on 24th April 1837 these were Anne Bradshawe born 3rd December 1828 Ireland (Before the marriage but mother is listed as Isabella at baptism?) and Mary Bradshawe born 23rd November 1832 in Limmerick Ireland - but no mention of Charlotte Bradshawe who would have only been abt. 8 years old born in Clonmell Ireland c1830
Seems as if you just have to give up once the search goes to Ireland :'(
Crystal :D
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i tried 2 years ago to trace my grandmothers tree (McAnaw) and hit a brick wall as soon as we hit ireland, in the end some family members went to ireland to find record and got some but with names missing.
they where told not all children born in ireland where registered, something to do with cost :)
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Hi
I am trying to research Michael Lane born 1815 Ireland, He was on the 1841,1851,1861 census but then disappears.
can't find his marriage to Ann or his death!!!
Any advice
Sharon
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a search of the birth/baptism index at irish-roots.ie for all available counties includes - the following :
Church Baptism Lane Michael 1815 Co. Cork
Church Baptism Lane Michael 1816 Co. Cork
Shane
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hi shane
thanks,
He was in Carmarthenshire from 1840-1861, however we can't find a marriage or death, do you think he may have gone back to ireland for those periods/ another strange thing is that in the 1881 census for carmarthenshire all lane family members can't be found
sharon
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a couple of Church marriage results for Michael Lane (assuming he was 18+)
Lane Michael 1824 Co. Limerick
Lane Michael 1824 Co. Cork
Lane Michael 1824 Co. Cork
Lane Michael 1825 Co. Cork
Lane Michael 1830 Co. Limerick
Lane Michael 1830 Co. Limerick
Lane Michael 1831 Co. Roscommon
Lane Michael 1832 Co. Cork
Lane Michael 1833 Co. Limerick
Lane Michael 1834 Co. Cork
Layne Michael 1834 Co. Dublin
Lane Michael 1836 Co. Cork
Lane Michael 1838 Co. Limerick
do you know Ann's maiden name ?
Shane
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Hi
Yes her name was Ann Davids born Carmarthenshire 1821
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from 1835 to 1902 I see marriage listings for Davy & Davey but no Ann David.
Not all counties are in the system yet so if they were married here the entry may not be available yet.
do you have any clues as to Michael Lane's place of origin?
There are quite a few Lane entries (over 1500) on Griffiths Valuation, spread all the island..
Shane
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Hi all
I have tried to look for a few of you...PM 'd if I found anything.
I had a trip where I went native for a change and traveled around with graveyards etc etc and asked people, and went to areas I had never been to before.
Ireland is so lovely.....and everyone is so helpful
Had a fantastic lead for myself. at the airport..of all places to find a lead...(..always helps to be boring, talking about dead rellies) ....got back chased it ....all round England made some lovely new friends :'(
O/M/G I am now back in Ireland with Robert Hughes....born 1791
can I scream yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
(Muttering to myself)...must remember " I am not alone"
sorry just needed a "group hug "to make me feel better
moral is
1..do not give up
2..talk about the dead to everyone you meet
3..follow every lead
then if you are back in the Emerald Isle...ask for a group hug.
Steve
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(((((( Steve))))))) here's one big hug anyway, group hug will follow I am sure. :) How wonderful to be in Ireland and to be having such a great time meeting great people!
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Michael Brannan b.Dublin about 1822 is my stumbling block. Got him on the 1861, for Llanfabon, 1871 and 1881 for Pontlottyn, Glam. then he disappears. I assume he died but so far haven't found his death. I haven't done much about the Irish background, I was too daunted by the prospect!
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I am the Grand-daughter of a Robert Miskelly. He was born and raised in Newtownards, Co Down in 1927, but moved to London in the late 1940's I saw your posting and you seem to want info on the Miskelly's. If there's anyway i can help, let me know.
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Hi Kelly,
I hope you mean my posting on Miskellys ;D
Mine goes back to Margaret Miskelly born 1837, daughter of Owen Miskelly and Agnes Murray. Married John Cummins and had 2 children then emigrated to New Zealand 1864. My grandfather Owen Cummins was born on the ship on the way out. Apparently it was a shocking trip and lots of people died on the way out. Margaret must have been from tough stock as she arrived with her children still alive and a new baby. She then raced straight up the hill to the nearest Church and baptised Owen the day they arrived ;D
Hope there is a connection.
Lovely to find a real live Miskelly :D
You have to make a few postings before you can personal message me- just post a few smiles even- then maybe I can contact you with my email address and we can correspond off this forum.
I live in Australia, but grew up in N.Z. I am going to a re-union in Nov. in the area that the Cummins/Miskelly clan settled. They are all buried in a small private graveyard there.
Trish
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Hello all, my Irish ancester was my grt grt grandfather John Donegan born c1810 in Ireland. The first real evidence I have is his marriage in Bethnal Green on 6th April 1837. Why didn't they wait a couple of months til civil registration came in, at least I would have known his fathers name. On all the census info I have he just lists his birthplace as Ireland. My father always said they came from Limerick but that may not have been so. I would really love to know more about him. Jabawak
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Just wanted to say NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP ;)
Another of my Irish brickwalls, has just come crashing down.
All I had was Anne Dean, born 1837, County Down Ireland, from her Marriage cert. and Death cert. in N.Z. She was previously married to a Patrick Nolan. Parents Patrick Dean and Elizabeth Fitzpatrick.
Could not find her anywhere with this info.
Posted on every site I could about her and parents.
CRASH ;D ;D ;D
Contacted by another DEANE descendant, now know she was born Dundalk, Louth, IRE and her parents parents as well.
Am meeting up with people in N.Z. when I am there next month, perfect timing ( trip already planned) and getting photos as well.
Also my family line can now be added to their tree.
Apparently ALL the Deanes went to Liverpool 1840's ( I found them under Diene 1851 census) then to South Africa and on to N.Z. on 2 different ships 1864 and 1866.
So keep up the chase ;D
Hope you all have the same luck as me
Trish
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I have Irish on both sides of my family, my fathers Gran's (Mary) father ( G Grandfather) he's an Orr but all I have is that seemingly Mary came over by when she was a teen due to the TROUBLES. But I have came across a brick wall with this matter...
On my mothers side her G Granparents (Stewart) Ballymena Co Antrum but this is all I have of them If anyone can help I'd be most grateful
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My grandmother`s family were Danahers from Limerick.Her grandfather Michael born circa 1828,is as much as I know.Anyone else have any Danahers?
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I was once told that a high percentage of the Irish who made their way to the UK in the 1800's ( as a result of the Irish Famine) landed in the following ports-- Liverpool and Glasgow, and many many of them made their way to the East End of London.
Also during the years of the Irish Famine a high percentage of the Irish population emigrated to America, I suggest anyone researching their Irish heritage do look at the Ellis Island Immigration Website, this website list's immigrant's who landed at the Port of New York until 1950, and the names are in Alpha Order and at times provide additional data on the Immigrant and any relatives who may have accompanied them.
Mary-B
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Trish that is great news, I am happy for you. your posting is encouraging to the rest of us. :)
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I was once told that a high percentage of the Irish who made their way to the UK in the 1800's ( as a result of the Irish Famine) landed in the following ports-- Liverpool and Glasgow, and many many of them made their way to the East End of London.
Also during the years of the Irish Famine a high percentage of the Irish population emigrated to America, I suggest anyone researching their Irish heritage do look at the Ellis Island Immigration Website, this website list's immigrant's who landed at the Port of New York until 1950, and the names are in Alpha Order and at times provide additional data on the Immigrant and any relatives who may have accompanied them.
Mary-B
www.ellisisland.org for Ellis Island (New York) arrivals covers 1892-1924 only and the early lists contain few details- usually no more than name, age, occupation, country of origin.
www.castlegarden.org for New York arrivals pre Ellis Island has the same sort of details as early Ellis Island lists.
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I have hit a brick wall with my GGG Grandfather Micheal Lane all it says in the 1841 and following census returns is born Ireland. He married Ann David/Davies from kidwelly in carmarthen, or at least we think he did as we can't find Marriage or death for him, but they did have a lot of children together!!
Any info would be great
thanks Sharon
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I was always of the opinion that both my parents were from purely Scottish extraction (with one side deviation to Heligoland...! :o ), and was surprised to find that my Father's family had originated in Ireland, moving to Scotland c.1860.
All I can find of this Irish connection is a marriage between William CARSON (b.c.1838) to Ellen/Helen McHUTCHESON/McCUTCHEON (b.c.1840) - marriage took place 20/06/1855, Regent Street Presbyterian church, Newtownards, Co.Down.
William's parents were Henry CARSON and Agnes MORRISON (b.c.1807).
Ellen/Helen's father was William McHUTCHESON, mother unknown.
The widdowed Agnes (Morrison) Carson moved to Dalry, Scotland at the same time as her son William and his family, and took William's siblings too - Mary John and Agnes.
That is the sum total of my Irish explorations - but if this rings bells for anyone I'd be delighted to hear from them! :D
Regards, Stoney
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Hi.
Just been reading all these postings.
My grandfather James Lynch Ferrigan b.1863, Edinburgh, illigitmate son of Mary Ferrigan. We suspect his father was James Lynch. My brother had his DNA tested on A******y and we have an ancestor match within 9 generations, approx 225 years. The 2 closest, were men with the surname Lynch.
This James Lynch was a shoemaker in Edinburgh with family. He had a son William who died unmarried in 1879, so nothing to search there. James Lynch died 1871. James also had a brother called William, who possibly went to the States. He was with James family on the 1851 census in Edinburgh, but drops out of the picture from then on.
James Lynch was married to Ann Rooney. On the census it states that both Lynch, b. approx 1816 and Rooney were born Ireland. Where or when I havn,t a clue.
If the name Lynch rings a bell it would be great, otherwise I havn,t a clue to how to begin searching for the Lynch family in Ireland.
Mary
Moderator's Note: if anyone can help with this please post reply on the Lynch thread not here.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,376642.msg2499395.html#msg2499395
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My husband's father was from Mayo in Ireland his name
Dennis Carey born around 1938, we believe he had a brother and sister, but have been unable to find a connection so far, he was working as a road man up in Middlesbrough and bore a daughter and a son, but never married due to my mother in laws parents.
Any carey's out there????
Sharon
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Martin Meehan was born around 1859/1860 in County Mayo. I was told Kilalla, but the 1881 census says Killasea (Kilasser?) and the 1911 says Ballycastle. At least all those places are in County Mayo!!
By 1871 he was in Darlington living with his mother (Winifred) and his sister Margaret (born 1855ish). Margaret was also born in Co Mayo (place looks like Glenturber but very bad handwriting).
Their father was called Michael Meehan, but I have found no trace of him in England. Don't know Winifred's maiden name but the name Garven appears as a middle name for boys for the next three generations - so you know what my first guess would be.
Now Martin Meehan married Mary Kelly in 1884 in Darlington. Mary Kelly's mother was Mary Meehan from Roscommon and it is believed that her father was Owen Meehan. Mary Meehan was in Darlington by 1855 and in that year she was a witness (with her husband to be William Kelly) at the wedding of a Christopher Meehan who was born in Galway. Christopher Meehan's father was Timothy.
I've been tying myself up in knots about these Meehans for about 5 years now so any help will be very gratefully received!!
Wotty.
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Hello everyone,
I have an Irish connectiion: Elinor McDONALD, Born around 1770, Dublin Ireland. Died 1 March 1831 Richomd Australia.
Eleanor is recorded as being sentenced on the 27th October 1790, at the quarter sessions at Tholsel, Dublin - The record states- "Found guilty of stealing a metal watch, chain and locket - value 6 guineas- The property of Thomas Dalton. Sentenced to be transported. Eleanor left Ireland form the Cove of Cork as a convict aboard the "Queen" arriving at Port Jackson (Sydney Harbour), Australia, 26 September 1791.
That's all I know of her past in Ireland, would be so grateful if anyone could enlighten me of anything else about her time in Ireland,#.
Thank you anything would be really appreciated.
Kind Regards
Raina Jackson
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My Grandfather Richard Watts was born in Fermoy in 1870 I was lucky and found his registration and one of his brothers in Dublin and the records office. I also have his parents George Watts and Ellen Colemans marriage certificate for 1860 at the parish Church of Fermoy.
What I have not found is their births. George Watts was a soldier with the 89th reg and was the son of Joseph. Ellen was the daughter of John Coleman. I wondered if George could have been born in England and posted to Fermoy which is a Garrison town or if he was born in Ireland.
I always thought they were Anglican because they were married in the Parish Church but on my Grandfather Richard Watts Boer War records he stated he was a RC.
So the brick wall carries on. :(
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I have that sinking feeling too as I have Irish GG Grandparents on both my maternal and paternal sides my maternal sides are Stewarts from Ballymena Co Antrum. My Paternal side is a bit more tricky i was told that the Orr's came over because of the troubles they stayed just south of Dublin :( an that my G Grannie was in her teens but another family member Say's that it's not true that
G Grannie was born over here but i have a feeling that she was born Ire if any one has anything or any suggestions I'd gladly listen
Giil's
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My brickwalls for Ireland are HASSAN - LONDONDERRY
BRADLEY - LONDONDERRY
MORROW - CAVAN
CURRIE - CAVAN
HERRON - UNKNOWN
GUNNING - UNKNOWN
CALDERWOOD - ??????
I do not know of their religion or from where in those counties they originate, so I guess I've come to a dead end. :'(
At least I have ancestors from other countries......phew!!
Kimberly
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I'm just scratching the surface of my Irish ancestry, I think... but when I have something more to go on I will be asking for help from this board's vast well of knowledge - trust me!! ;D
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Local legend has it that Noah's ark came to rest on the mountain range called Slieve Beagh. Bith, apparently the son of Noah, was buried on Carnmore (translates to big burial mound).
Biths daughter Cessair, was the leader of the first inhabitants of Ireland. So if everyone died in the flood and the ark landed in Ireland that makes everyone alive today in the world descendant from Ireland ;D
Therefore, everyone has Irish roots at any time frame!
Wheres my salt shaker!?!?
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Hugh and Mary Smith
no county. Agricultural Labourer, so that might give a clue, or not.
marcie
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I have a Margaret Mee Cambridge, father Alexander Cambridge - I think it's more likely they're both McCambridge though. Seems there was a few McCambridges in the Antrim area in the early/mid 1800s when they were around, though all I have is an 'Ireland' for her on the census/marriage cert.
I can find a couple of tenuous links but nothing to follow up yet, and also the McCambridge name is originally Scottish, which just confuses me even more, lol!
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I have a Margaret Ford. She came to South Australia in 1849, on the "Elgin", a ship carrying Irish orphans out to a new life as domestic servants in the colony. All the girls' names are recorded on a web-site about the Elgin, but only the girls from Clonmel (35 of them) are identified. The rest are from different places, Fermoy (30), Killarney (35), Lismore (25), and Skibbereen (25). of course, margaret isn't from Clonmel!!
Given this was at the time of the potato famine, I don't feel I've much chance of breaking through this brick wall. When she married, she was under age, as was her husband, and they therefore didn't have their father's names recorded. I've not sent for her death certificate, that is for the future.
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I am the Grand-daughter of a Robert Miskelly. He was born and raised in Newtownards, Co Down in 1927, but moved to London in the late 1940's I saw your posting and you seem to want info on the Miskelly's. If there's anyway i can help, let me know.
Hello Kelly Miskelly - I have just read your note to Trish. I too have a Miskelly in my family. She is Susannah Miskelly who emigrated to New Zealand with her sister Margaret in 1869. Margaret was two years older than Susannah. Susannah had stated on her marriage certificate that her father was Owen Miskelly and her mother Rose McGreevy (or McGrevy) Susannah was born in Belfast about 1853. She married Thomas Viner CRUNDWELL in Nz in 1872. Margaret married William Claxton and had quite a few children her in NZ.
Susannah's husband died by accident in 1878. Susannnah later remarried and had other chuildren including my grandmother.
Any help in tracing her parerents and ancestors would be helphful.
DonL
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My brick wall has wall as trully fallen down I thought my g grandfather George Watts was born in Ireland same as my g grandmother Ellen Coleman. I decided to look at his Crimea War records at Kew and found he was actually born in Oxford. So it pays never to give up I had been looking for his birth for 8 years and got back to 1700 in one day.
:)
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Not only do I have Hugh Smith married to Mary Taggart both from somewhere in Ireland, but I also have a William O'May married to a Margaret Milloy and the person whose tree I gleaned this information was adamant that they were born in Scotland; and yet William on one of the census records stated that he was originally from Ireland by writing an I (in origins). I have no idea where to start tracing my irish roots. Hugh and Mary must have been born in Ireland around 1810/20 as they had 10 children and had moved by 1840 to Scotland, initially to Renfrew and eventually Lanarkshire and Campbelltown
marjorie
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My paternal family originated in Ireland, but ended up in Scotland.
I have Dolans - Francis Dolan (1819-1977) married Mary Lee (1825-1865) in Manorhamilton in 1845
They were both born in Ireland but died in Scotland. Their youngest daughter was Margaret Dolan.
Then I have Blest/Blessington/Mulvanery, again born in Ireland (Leitrim) The family first appear on the 1851 Scottish census listed as McVanatchie, which we take to be a corruption of Mulvanerty. They become Blest on the 1861/1871 censuses, then Blessington on the 1881.
So many different versions of the names here, but Miles/Michael born 1812, died Haddington, Scotland 1878, married Bridget Durkin, born Leitrim 1816, died 1884, Haddington, Scotland. Their youngest child was John Blest.
Margaret Dolan, born Ireland 1861, married John Blessington, born John Blest(1855) in Haddington in 1883
Talk about needles in haystacks!
Pat.
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Family names Doran and Savage.
Might I be so bold as to make a suggestion regarding this topic?? Perhaps rootschaters contributing
could head up their post with their family names (as above), making it easier for everyone to look
for a potential connection with others.
My brickwall in Ireland is with the Doran and Savage family likely to be from County Down ......... but
still looking for a marraige between a John Doran and Mary Savage anywhere in Ireland. Timeframe
circa 1840 to 1870.
Regards
Alyson
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Good Idea Allyson123
My brickwalls are :
Margaret Ellen BYRNE - born Kingstown, Dublin 23rd March 1856
Parents said to be Patrick BYRNE and Bridget (UNKNOWN)
Susannah MISKELLY born Belfast c 1853 - she and her sister Margaret arrived in New Zealand on the Coventry Jane in 1869. Susannah stated on her marriage certificate that her father is Owen MISKELLY and her mother as Rose McGREEVY (or McGreavY). Her sisters marriage certificate does not show her parents at all (was not compulsory then)
Any help in tracing these ancestors would be much appreciated.
DonL
Have not been able to trace either of these families
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I can only go so far back with my Irish people because of the availability of records. One line that should be more straight forward is my Holland people from County Cork. They were the last of my Irish ancestors to settle in Liverpool in the late 1870s. William John Holland and Jane Grogan must have married in Ireland in the 1870s but I have no marriage record for them yet. I'm hoping that later additions of County Cork RC church records will include this marriage and reveal where in Cork they came from.
C
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I have a few branches from Ireland. Most of my Irish ancestors came straight to Preston, Lancashire -
MCKENNA - My mothers maiden name, we have no idea where our McKenna ancestors came from within Ireland. The first McKenna to come to England was Robert, who settled in Liverpool. His son James, my great great great grandfather, moved to Leyland, Lancashire.
CALLAGHAN - My matenal great great grandmother, Mary Ann Callaghan, was born in Dublin in 1863. Her family came to Preston, but we know very little. Her father could have been an Andrew or a James or had both names and came from Dublin probably. Her mother was called Mary Alice, as far as I know, and probably came from County Longford.
SCOWCROFT - My 4x great grandfather (grandfather of the man who married Mary Ann Callaghan - Mary herself was the mother-in-law of James McKenna's grandson) John Scowcroft was supposedly born in Ireland c1811, and came to Preston. There is a theory that his father was an English soldier, and his mother may have been Irish.
MURRAY - My 5x great grandparents James and Bridget Ellen Murray were both born in Meath in 1804 and 1814 respectively. They had quite a few children and moved to Preston, Lancashire. My 4x great grandmother was their daughter Bridget. James and Bridget are buried in the local Catholic church, just a few hundred metres from where I live, and I went to see their grave when I first found out.
BROWN and NICHOLSON - My 4x great grandmother Ann Brown was living in Preston when she married Edward Nicholson. Ann was from Tipperary and Edward was from Westport, Mayo. Little is known about them before their marriage, although I do know that Edwards father was a Patrick, who was born c1791 in Westport.
Stephen :)
Whilst the Nicholson/Brown line turned out to be incorrect, I do have some Mayo ancestors, but on my mother's side. According to my great aunt, the McKennas originate in Mayo.
Stephen :)
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Hello,
Williams Gubbins was my Great, Great, Great Grandfather. His son was Patrick Gubbins who was a Chicago Police Officer, born Jul. 16, 1862 in County Limerick, Ireland and died, Oct. 29, 1941 in Chicago. Patrick was my Great Great Grandfather.
I would like to find out more about William's parents and grandparents. if any information exists. Let me know if you have any information to share.
Thank You!
Joe in Illinois.
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If push comes to shove (as it just might) I would be able to claim an Irish passport through my father's father, who was born in county Cork in 1872. The Irish history extends only through his mother, who was a Mulhall from Kilkenny, married as a minor in Cork in 1870. The male line had arrived from Devon in about 1854, presumably following the potato famine when many farms would have been vacated. After one generation in Ireland the remainder who had not settled or emigrated to America returned whence they came, to Ashburton.
I have been unable to find any more about that Mulhall family, but I may have another go ....
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All of my ancestors stem from Ireland.
Nolan, Cremins, O'Connor, Keogh, Stack are the main lines to name a few :)
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Hello,
Williams Gubbins was my Great, Great, Great Grandfather. His son was Patrick Gubbins who was a Chicago Police Officer, born Jul. 16, 1862 in County Limerick, Ireland and died, Oct. 29, 1941 in Chicago. Patrick was my Great Great Grandfather.
I would like to find out more about William's parents and grandparents. if any information exists. Let me know if you have any information to share.
Thank You!
Joe in Illinois.
Welcome to Rootschat :)
If you'd like help finding your Irish ancestors it would be better to start a new topic on the LIMERICK board-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/limerick/
Be sure to include as much information as you've already found and let us know what we can help you with :)
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I have not identified any Irish born ancestors in my direct line, which for me growing up in the West of Scotland is very unusual.
My daughter on the other hand has several on her Dad's side.
Catherine Guinan who married Ernest Kleeman at St Mary's RC, London in 1871 father John born Cork. I believe her to be the Catherine guinan born Youghal, Cork to John Guinan and Honorah loughlan.
William McCombe b somewhere in Ireland c 1827 death cert gives parents names as William McCombe and MAry Larmer. Lived in Ayr and Later Stevenston in North Ayrshire.
Isabella Kirk wife of William above b somewhere in Ireland c 1823, Death cert father Joseph, mother unknown.
Joseph Hill b c 1820 somewhere in Ireland, lived in Stevenston N Ayrshire
Elizabeth Howie, wife of Joseph above b somewhere in Ireland c 1814
Thomas McCulloch b c 1823 in County Down, lived in East Ayrshire
Catherine Mcginnes (and all variations of spelling) b c 1832 Ireland, gives place of baptism as Inishowen
John McCorgray who married Catherine McGinnes above in burnbank nr Hamilton in 1855. His parents daniel and Helen (nee Sweeney) came over too. I cannot find a record in Ireland. He gave his place of baptism as Donaghmore, Donegal. I will check the other Donaghmores incase the priest justmade assumptions. I have yet to find a McCorgray/McCorgrey/McCorgary/McCorgery who is not directly descended from Daniel McCorgray and Helen Sweeny.
Oh er, looks a lot more when you list them.
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John McCorgray who married Catherine McGinnes above in burnbank nr Hamilton in 1855. His parents daniel and Helen (nee Sweeney) came over too. I cannot find a record in Ireland. He gave his place of baptism as Donaghmore, Donegal. I will check the other Donaghmores incase the priest justmade assumptions. I have yet to find a McCorgray/McCorgrey/McCorgary/McCorgery who is not directly descended from Daniel McCorgray and Helen Sweeny.
Donaghmore bapatisms may not go back far enough to find the family- be sure to check links at bottom for other sources-
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0353
'Helen' is more likely to be Ellen in Irish records.
Better asking for help on the appropriate Irish board than listing on this topic :)