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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: KA on Saturday 21 June 08 14:10 BST (UK)
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Can anybody see this family in 1891? Here they are in 1881:
(Michael McNeilis 44, Stableman, Unempl, b. Ireland)
Mary McNeilis 42, b. Ireland
Charles McNeilis 21
Sarah McNeilis 18
Catherine McNeilis 17
James McNeilis 16
Mary McNeilis 14
Agnes McNeilis 12
Michael McNeilis 10
Elizabeth McNeilis 5
William McNeilis 2
The husband, Michael died in 1890. But can wife Mary and any of the children be spotted? Most probably in Glasgow.
Wife, Mary, dies in 1907, so if she can be spotted on the 1901 I would be very grateful for a look up also.
Regards.
KA
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Hi
Here is Mary with son William and wife in 1901:
Reg 644/6
@ 6 Swan Street, Glasgow Port Dundas, St Rollox
Mary McNeillis, b. c 1842 Ireland, Head
William McNeillis, b. c 1876 Glasgow, Son, Oil Cake Presser
Mary McNeillis, b. c 1880 Glasgow, Daughter in Law, Transferrer.
Still looking on 1891.....
Cheers
Ellen.
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Just realsied that you have this same info on another thread and have discounted this guy.
Ellen.
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Ellen,
That's what I thought, but I've checked it through, and they are not the correct family ::)
William marries a Christina in 1900, and in 1901 appears to be in England.
I've come to a bit of a grinding halt on this lot. So am hoping a sighting of them in 1891 might help.
Regards
KA
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They are in Rotten Row in 1891 and Mary was born Ireland. With Eliz,James,Mary,Michael and William
Will post if Ellen doesn't ;)
Under McNellis
Tricia
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Sorry, KA, was waiting for Ellen as she was doing this search
Does this look like your family? Unfortunately not allowed access to the image to check. You would have to pay on Scotlandspeople to view it
1891
47 Rotten Row, Glasgow
Mary McNellis Head 56 Licensed broker born Ireland
James son 25 Iron Dre born Glasgow Lanarkshire
Mary Daur (in ? Law) 22 Shawl Fringer born Glasgow
Michael son 20 Mason b Glasgow
Elizabeth dau 14 Fancy box maker b Glasgow
William son 12 b Glasgow
Parish: Glasgow Robertson Memorial ED 9 Line 13
As appears on Index - the query on Mary the dau is not my query but as written
Tricia
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Yes, that's definitely my lot ;D
I'm scrabbling through all my info here, as the 'licensed broker' has come up before and I can't remember where.
Many thanks for that.
If anyone can spot Mary in 1901 I would be pleased to know.
Kind regards
KA
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In the 1901 census at 6 Swan Street, St Rollox/Port Dundas district,
Mary McNeillis 59 b 1842 Ireland No Occ given
Mary McNeillis 21 b 1880 Glasgow - Transferrer - Daughter in law
William McNeillis 25 1876 Glasgow - Oil Cake Presser - Son
Tom
PS Apoligies to Ellenavon who had already advised this.
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This is the only one I can see as well
Are you absolutely sure that your William married a Christina? Have you verified this?
I am a bit worried that he is 'missing' on the 1901.
Perhaps he was 'norty' ;D ;D ;D
Tricia
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Hi Folks
This was bugging me so I've checked the marraiges on SP so we know exactly what we're looking for....
1. William McNeillis, the Oil Cake Dresser married Mary Walls @ Blythswood, Glasgow 31 Dec 1900, age 25. His parents were John McNeillis, Chemical Work Labourer (deceased) and Mary ms Docherty. Living at that time at 6 Swan Street.
2. William McNeillis, age 20, Iron Dresser, married Christina Stephen a Power Loom Weaver 29 Dec 1900 @ Milton, Glasgow. His parents were Michael McNeillis, Coach Builder (deceased) and Mary ms Murray. Both William and Christina were at the time living at 42 Maitland Street, Glasgow.
What would you have given for the chances of two William McNeillises marrying within 2 days of each other >:(
Right, I'm off again to see if I can find them. Please all feel free to beat me to it - its bugging me!!!
Cheers
Ellen.
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Right, now we're getting somewhere - but not the whole story!
William's wife Christina is at 42 Maitland (ancestry has transcribed as Mailland) Street on the 1901. she is transcibed as McNeillias.
She is head of household, age 23, a Jute Spinner, b. Carycastle (?) with
Alexandria McNeillias, daur, 2, Glasgow
Mary McNeillias, daur, 3 mos, Glasgow
plus 3 of Christinas sisters, Alexandria Stephens, 21, Catherine, 19 and Jane 17
and 2 visitors Marion Longmuir and Rose McLatchin both 18.
Got to go out for few hours, but will look back to see if anyone has found William!
Cheers
Ellen.
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Ha,ha so she isn't in England - that fooled me for a few seconds.
She is in Scotland and we can't check the image for her marital status - very annoying - do you have any credits?
Both William and his mum may be deceased though William is a bit young :(
Nice to see someone in full possession of the facts,Ellen ;)
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First of all, many thanks for all this help. It is all so kind of you.
Just to fill you in a bit more, I think William may have been in Northumberland in 1901. One turns up on the census as a visitor with a mining family. The age is wrong, but this may be him. And it would fit with other information I have found out. ie. Christina marries again in 1905. She states 'spinster' on this second marriage, alters her age a bit, and gives her grandparents names as her parents. I am thinking that William deserted her, maybe a divorce followed - but maybe not. William dies in 1916.
So, maybe another William McNeillis can be found in Scotland, maybe not. Can his mother Mary be sighted at all?
Also, can anybody advise how I might find out about divorces during this period. I would not have thought they were that common.
Regards
KA
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Is this the chap with the 'Humbles' ?
Age is definitely 38 but it does look good apart from that.
I think they are a bit dodgy after all ;)
Tricia
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That's the one.
Dodgy isn't the word for it! ;D
The 2 year old Alexina that is with Christina on the 1901 has the words 'illegitimate' on her birth cert. And it appears William didn't stick around long after his marriage and birth of second daughter, Mary. I suppose he could still be in Scotland, but ensuring he is unfindable, not necessarily by the census, but by his wife - but it equates to the same thing. I get the feeling he didn't easily settle to family life! ;)
His mother, Mary died in 1907. On the death cert the surname is Manelis - but this is one of the many guises the McNeillis surname appears as. She died 10 Feb 1907 at 2 Parsonage Lane, Glasgow. This is the St Rollox area, which also has the other Mary McNeillis, who isn't mine - which just adds to the confusion. :-\
Regards KA
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HI KA MY NAME IS MARGARET MANELLIS I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OLD POSTS AND FOUND YOUR POST FOR MCNELLIS FAMILY THE NAME HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS THE NAMES ARE MCNELLIS MANELLIS MANELIS MANILLIS NELLIS CHARLES MCNELIS WENT TO SPAIN AND CHANGED HIS NAME TO CARLOS MANALUS IF YOU THINK THIS FAMILY IS PART OF YOUR FAMILY PLEASE GET IN TOUCH KIND REGARDS MARGARET
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bobby66
I would like to make contact with you regarding this strange name, I have Manillis and Moneillis, looking for a woman
named Margaret Moneillis with parents Anthony Manillis and Ellen Brawman?.
Margaret married Alexander Scobie in Scotland, got some info on the Scobie, traces back to Antrim, Ireland, but it is this surname that is eluding me to tracing Margaret and her family.
bendywendy
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Hi thanks for mail i have been waiting for years for someone looking for manillis name, my name is margaret manellis the name has been spelt wrong for years when my great grandfather came over from ireland greenock spelt it wrong,my grandfather changed the name back to manellis its origin is spanish if you can give me info on the manillis family that you have i will be able to fill you in with this family, i also know of the scobie family as they married a taylor who is part of my sisterinlaw family.i have the manellis family back to 1600s the spanish way is manalus the irish is mcnelistheir is twenty ways spelling this name please keep in touch kind regards margaret
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hi margaret
I will send you a PM with my email details.
Thank you
Wendy
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For Margaret and anyone else who is interested, these are the details so far.. I am helping my friend with his Irish and Scottish Family History...
Margaret Campbell, 28, Widow (maiden surname Manillis)
Alexander Scobie, 21, Batchelor, Labourer
Both of 47 Shaw St, Greenock, Renfrewshire
9 Sep 1882 St Lawrence Chapel, Gastody, Greenock
Her Parents
Anthony Manillis, Farmer, Deceased
Ellen Manillis, maiden surname Brawman?? difficult to read
Her Witness, John Drury & Catherine Drury
His Parents
John Scobie, Car Driver, Deceased
Ann Scobie, maiden surname Glass, Deceased
(I have found both these in Ballymoney & Ballymena, Co Antrim, Ireland)
His witness, Michael Condon RCC
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Alexander Scobie, 34, Widower, Carter. Private 3rd Batt R H (I presume Royal Highlanders??) Nigg Camp, Rosshire.
Rebecca Hanary Baxter 21, Spinster, Cotton Weaver, Huntley Terrace, Port Glasgow
20th Nov 1917 Paisley, County of Renfrew 23 Moss Street.
(This was his 2nd wife, the first was called Sarah and is on some Census's with him and their children)
His Parents
Alexander Scobie, Irondriller
Margaret Scobie, maiden surname Moneillis, deceased
Her Parents
James Baxter, Cycle Dealer (Born Coleraine, Ireland)
Margaret Baxter, maiden surname, Tayeor?? difficult to read could be Taylor
Witnesses
Duncan Campbell - Electric Craneman - Private 6th Batt Cameron Highlanders
Maggie Brown - Cotton Weaver
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I have found some of these on census info, looking for Margaret Manillis/Monellis/Campbell on 1871/61/51 census's I also cannot find her parents, I think this is down to their surname??
bendywendy
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H I WENDY I TRIED TO SEND YOU AN E MAIL BUT KEPT BOUNCING BACK IF YOU DID NOT GET HERE IS MY E MAIL (*) take care margaret
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Margaret remove your email from the thread, they are not allowed for privacy/security reasons..
bendywendy