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Title: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: newbie on Thursday 19 June 08 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi
I have info that I would like to confirm but I just can't, no matter which way I try, find the family in either the 1851 or the 1861 would someone else please tell me that I am not completely bonkers!
the info I have is:
Thomas Thomas, born circa 1819 Wales
Mother unknown
Thomas Thomas born c1842 Wales
David Thomas born c 1845 Wales
unknown Thomas Female born about 1847 Wales
John Thomas born c1851 Wales
Lewis Thomas Male born c1853 Wales
unknown Thomas Female born c 1855 Wales
unknown Thomas Female born circa 1857 Wales
Sarah Thomas born 1859 Wales

Thanks
Newbie :)
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: silvery on Thursday 19 June 08 14:51 BST (UK)
Not bonkers.  But without a bit more, it's 'needle in a haystack' time. 
In Wales, it's pretty crucial to have the area and place of birth.
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: hazelmoore on Thursday 19 June 08 15:04 BST (UK)
Do you have them on any Census at all?  Are they resident in Wales?  Any other info at all?

Hazel
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 19 June 08 15:05 BST (UK)
Possible 1861 - RG9 Piece 4044 Folio 77 Page 22 & 23, at Llantwit Fardre, Glamorgan

Let me know if you want it transcribed....

Very difficult with a name like Thomas, with no first names, or mothers name to know if the one you have is correct...do you have any more info on one of them at least?

Cas
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Iria on Thursday 19 June 08 15:10 BST (UK)
Hi

Another Possible 1861 Census

Class: RG9; Piece: 4145; Folio: 33; Page: 4;

Mydrim
Ecclesiastical parish:    Derllys
County/Island:    Carmarthenshire
Country:    Wales

Hope this helps

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Lesanne on Thursday 19 June 08 15:11 BST (UK)
This is a Thomas Thomas with Lewis c 1853

1861 Aberystruth Monmouthshire
Thomas Thomas 36
Mary 33
Lewis 8 B/p transcribed as Nantyglo (c1853)
Elizabeth 2

Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Sparkle26 on Thursday 19 June 08 15:16 BST (UK)
Hi

There is this family in 1861

Llantwit Fardre Glamorgen RG9 4044 F 76 P 22

Parents Thomas 42 & Margaret 40

Children
Thomas 18
Richard 12
John 9
Lewis 5
Margaret 3
Sarah 1
Jennet 1 Month

Claire  :)
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: colliecuts on Thursday 19 June 08 15:29 BST (UK)
This one for 1851 is at least   close ?,,,
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Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 19 June 08 15:33 BST (UK)
Snap sparkle... :)

Cas
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: newbie on Thursday 19 June 08 15:45 BST (UK)
Hello all, well thank you! I just can't seem to find the right combination of children and parents....
I am trying to verify info found on a family tree at A***, if its correct then at long last I have the parents of my ggrandmother! but I haven't had a reply from the ownerof the tree, I'm trying to make contact, but in case I don't get a reply I thought I should try and verify the information?
All I know for sure is that Sarah Thomas was born in 1859 and in later census (after marriage) she gives place of birth as Pontypridd (which doesnt help does it?)
so no I don't have any more info... :(
but I'll go and have a look at all of your replies, thanks for helping,
newbie
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 19 June 08 15:54 BST (UK)
Pontypridd, is/was within Llantwit Vardre

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/places?GLA,ST070890,5,Pontypridd

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/LlantwitFardre/

Possible 1861 - RG9 Piece 4044 Folio 77 Page 22 & 23, at Llantwit Fardre, Glamorgan This was in the Hamlet of Glyntaff, within Pontypridd

Hope you get a reply....

Cas

Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: newbie on Thursday 19 June 08 16:28 BST (UK)
oh thanks Cas!
...the computer decided to have a complete shut down, I must have worn it out! grrr.
Yes I'm fingers crossed that I have a reply it would be fantastic!
I'll follow up on the census info now, 
newbie
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 26 June 08 16:57 BST (UK)
To continue info requested via pm.  This would relate to birthdate given by contact

Births Sep 1859  Thomas  Sarah   Cardiff  11a 264

Check the link, Cardiff covered the district of Llantwit Vardre until 1863 when it was moved to Pontypridd.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/cardiff.html

There are two others in Cardiff reg within Sept 1859 - Dec 1859 but both are Sarah Ann Thomas only one Sarah Thomas

Cas
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 26 June 08 17:27 BST (UK)
Death: Sarah Moses age 85 Sept Q 1945 Pontypridd 11a 360

Looks likely father Thomas, died in Ferndale mine disaster Nov. 1867, looks like some possible brothers as well, with names of those on link I sent you. 

http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/deathrolls/Ferndale.htm 

You could check freebmd, possible death cert would give address, maybe help with 1871/1881 census.  Also first child is b Ferndale after they returned from US.  Need to verify this connection, possibly her birth cert?

Cas
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: newbie on Thursday 26 June 08 18:22 BST (UK)
Thanks Cas, will check out the info.....
Newbie
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Thursday 26 June 08 18:50 BST (UK)
Here is the likely 1851 for same family, just incase you get your link....

HO107 Piece 2461 Folio 299 Page 13 Llangan

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llangan/

Looks like first dau Sarah died....

Good luck

Cas
Title: Re: Another pair of eyes needed please, am I bonkers? Census look up
Post by: newbie on Friday 27 June 08 07:55 BST (UK)
Thanks Cas,
newbie