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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: tmm1975 on Wednesday 18 June 08 07:10 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Was wondering if any one out there if anyone is related to this family. Benjamin Thorpe was born in Buildwas Shrophire in 1800 and Jane Hill his wife in 1804, they emmigrated to Aust in about 1829-32 and settled in Fremantle-Rockingham Area. His Parents were Ebenezer Thorpe and Mary Phillips both born Little Wenlock, Shropshire. I have a few more generations going back, but would love to hear from relatives or anyone else who knows something about them.
Thanks
Tanya
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Hi Tanya
I'm not related to your people, but was wondering whether you need any help with research etc.
If you do, post full details and we can see what we can find.
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Hi Lloydy
Thankyou for your offer, it is much appreciated, I have put down the info that I have, and basically need to fill in the gap. I realise that it is incredibly difficult, and do not expect miracles.
Descendants of Aaron Thorp
Generation No. 1
1. AARON1 THORP married ELEANOR UNKNOWN. Marriage Unknown
Children of AARON THORP and ELEANOR UNKNOWN are known their first child is born in 1686 in Barrow, Sal and the last is born in 1697 also at barrow:
Generation No. 2
2. BENJAMIN THORP (AARON1) was born 21-11-1686 in Barrow, SAL, ENG, UK. He married MARGARET CHILD on 26-10-1713 in Badger, SAL, ENG, UK.
I only have two Children of BENJAMIN THORP and MARGARET CHILD born between 1714 & 1717 One born in Badger and in Barrow, SAL
3. JOSEPH THORP (AARON1) was born 01-05-1691 in Barrow, SAL, ENG, UK. He married ELIZABETH UNKNOWN.(DOB)
I have three children of JOSEPH THORP and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN born between 1723-1731 all born in Broseley, SAL
Generation No. 3
4. JOHN THORP (BENJAMIN2, AARON1) was born Abt. 09-09-1714 in Badger, SAL, ENG, UK. He married DOROTHY DUKESELL (DOB) 21 03-10-1737 in Madeley, SAL, ENG, UK.
I have 9 Children of JOHN THORP and DOROTHY DUKESELL, 1738-1764 all born in Madeley, SAL except one born in Little Wenlock
5. THOMAS THORP (BENJAMIN2, AARON1) was born 11-08-1717 in Barrow, SAL, ENG, UK. He married GERTRUDE PARTON (DOB) 12-08-1739 in Meole Brace, SAL, ENG, UK.
I Have 8 Children of THOMAS THORP and GERTRUDE PARTON, 1736-1760 all born in Madeley, SAL
Generation No. 4
6. BENJAMIN THORP (JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, AARON1) was born 12-10-1740 in Madeley, SAL, ENG, UK. He married SARAH UNKNOWN. Marriage[/color](DOB)
I have 8 Children of BENJAMIN THORP and SARAH UNKNOWN, 1763-1775 all born in Madeley, SAL
7. JOHN THORP (JOHN3, BENJAMIN2, AARON1) was born 21-07-1756 in Madeley, SAL, ENG, UK. He married JANE HULSON (DOB) on 06-06-1795 in Eyton upon the Weald Moors, SAL, ENG, UK.
I have 6 Children of JOHN THORP and JANE HULSON born between 1793-1810 all born in Wellington,
8. EBENEZER THORPE (JOHN3 THORP, BENJAMIN2, AARON1) was born Abt. 05-07-1764 in Little Wenlock, Shropshire, ENG, UK, and died in ENG, UK. He married MARY PHILLIPS, on 05-02-1789 in Little Wenlock, SAL, ENG, UK, daughter of JOHN PHILLIPS and MARTHA UNKNOWN. She was born 03-01-1768 in Little Wenlock, Shropshire, ENG, UK.
I have 4 Children of EBENEZER THORPE and MARY PHILLIPS born between 1789-1800 two in Buildwas,
9. JAMES THORP (THOMAS3, BENJAMIN2, AARON1) was born 08-08-1742 in Madeley, SAL, ENG, UK. He married ELIZABETH PICKING (DOB) on 04-09-1764 in Alberbury, SAL, ENG, UK.
I Have 6 Children of JAMES THORP and ELIZABETH PICKING born between 1765-1780 six in Madeley, two in Dawley Magna,
Generation No. 5
10. ANN THORP (EBENEZER4 THORPE, JOHN3 THORP, BENJAMIN2, AARON1) was born 15-11-1789 in Buildwas, Shropshire, ENG, UK, and died 05-10-1832 in Fremantle, WA. She married JOHN MORRELL in Abt. 1808 in ENG, UK (WHERE). He was born 1786 in ENG, UK (WHERE), and died 18-10-1843 in Central Swan, WA.
I have 8 Children of ANN THORP and JOHN MORRELL born between 1809-1827 all in UK, 4 dying in the UK before arriving in OZ
11. BENJAMIN THORPE (EBENEZER4, JOHN3 THORP, BENJAMIN2, AARON1) was born 02-03-1800 in Buildwas, Shropshire, ENG, UK, and died 20-02-1870 in Fremantle, WA. He married JANE HILL on 27-12-1824 in Sheinton, Shropshire, ENG, UK, daughter of SAMUEL HILL and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN. She was born 06-05-1804 in Sheinton, Shropshire, ENG, UK, and died 18-05-1867 in Pinjarra, WA.
All the other generations are in Australia after this point and I have this info already. It is difficult to lacate info on this family from Aust and I would dearly love to fill in the gaps for a good friend that has put many, many years of research into this family.
Thanks again
Tanya
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There is a will of Benjamin Thorp dated 1789 at Lichfield which describes him as a victualler of Birmingham. He does however leave property in Madeley to his wife which is why I thought there might be a link.
http://archives.shropshire.gov.uk/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqPos=5&dsqSearch=(((text)='thorp')AND((text)='madeley'))
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William son of Joseph Thorpe and Elizabeth bap 02/01/1720 Broseley
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There's a nice succession of documents here relating to Benjamin son of John.
http://archives.shropshire.gov.uk/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Overview.tcl&dsqSearch=(((text)='thorp')AND((text)='madeley'))
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Hi Bristol,
Thanks for that link, I didn't know any of it. I haven't had much time to go through anything lately and have just had a chance to check it all out
Regards
Tanya
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:) Hi
I am a descendent of Benjamin Thorpe's son William- William is my ggfather. I have only recently started researching family history so don't know anything about the family, only some names and dates. My grandmother Charlotte, daughter of William died just after I was born in 1949
Jenny
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Hi jenny,
Have you just found me on ancestry?
Regards
Tanya
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Hi Tanya
Yes we have just connected on Ancestry
Jenny :)
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Hi Tanya
I was just looking through some different area's trying to find some info on the Thorpe family when I came across you.
Benjamin and Jane are a part of my descendents - there son John is my dads ggranddad and [my dad isn't sure but he thinks Edward was his granddad] - my dads father was William Thorpe married Ruby. Some of my dads family lived at 'Thorpe Cottage' in the Rockingham area it has two large pine trees which were planted sometime in the 1920's. I will continue to look further to find out if Edward is my dads grandfather. My father is another William Thorpe and is in his early 60's.
Thanks! Linda :D
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Hi there,
I doubt we have a connection, but I have a mysterious Benjamin Thorpe in my family. He was born cir 1820s, and married Elizabeth Smith in Gawler, South Australia, Sept 1853. I believe they had 4 children, Thomas John, John Howard, Henry (Harry) William Benjamin and Elizabeth Smith Thorpe.
I have no idea where Benjamin is from, he's so evasive! I can't even find a death record for him in South Australia, neither can I find an immigration record for him in SA. Do you think it's possible he's a son of your Benjamin and he came across from Fremantle? I think it's a long-shot, but it never hurts to ask!
Thanks,
Lauren
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Hi Ande,
I have the SA BMD indexes, I will have a look and see what I can come up with if you don't have them for you.
Let me know.
Regards
Tanya
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Hi LDT,
I have some info on Pines Cottage as well as a couple of photo's I think of the ruins only. If you are interested let me know.
Regards
Tanya
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Hi Tanya
Thanks for getting back to me. So it looks like we are talking about the same people. Any info you have would be great. I have a book called Kwinana Third Time Lucky By Laurie Russell, it has some pictures of the cottage before it turned to ruins. It also has some background on us Thorpe's.
You haven't said but I'm guessing you yourself are a Thorpe. If you don't mind could you tell me where you fit into the family tree?
And again any info would be great!
Linda... Merry Christmas Everyone! ;D
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Hi Tanya,
Thanks for the reply. I'm assuming you don't have any Thorpes in SA then? I've checked the SA BDM indexes before (a few times, I think), but maybe you'll be able to find something I missed, so I'd really appreciate you taking a look for me.
Cheers,
Lauren
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Hi Linda,
Yes definately the same people. Would love to see a piccy of the house before it was in ruins, I have some info from the Kwinana Council but no 'before' picture. My GGG Grandmother was Elizabeth Thorpe, wife of James Joseph Beacham. Her Daughter Sarah Beacham my GG Grandmother married Henry Jennings. Their daughter Myrtle Jennings married George Henningsen and their daughter Thelma was my Nana. Do you know of any old family photo's; more than willing to share the photo's that i have collected over the past couple of years. Firmly believe that the more copies of these photo's there are the less chance of them being lost. Really looking for a photo of James Joseph Beacham. I have a photo of Elizabeth Thorpe in her later years and some photo's of other Thorpe's that were sent to me from a branch of the family in Katanning. Do you live in Perth?
Tanya ::)
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Hi Tanya
Well I see that Elizabeth is the youngest of the 8 children and the sister of my gg/granddad John Thorpe MAR Mary, they had 10 children. My g/granddad William Thorpe was the 1st born he MAR Ms Gaye and they had 3 children. My Granddad William Thorpe (yes another William) the 2nd born MAR Ruby and they had 2 children. My dad William Thorpe (yes i know another William) the 2nd born and 18years younger than his brother MAR Faye and they had 4 children, 2 boys and 2 girls the oldest boy is also a William my younger brother.
Sorry no photo's of any other line of Thorpe's only a few of the John and Mary Thorpe side. Though I have scanned some photo's of the cottage hopefully they will get to you as I'm not a 100% sure if I've done it right. You might get 2 of each or something strange like that. Oh yeah by the way we do live in Perth.
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Hi Linda,
Are you interested in catching up? I have pictures of Fred, Ebenezer, Edward and Margaret Thorpe but i can't load them up as the files are too large. Do you happen to know who Fred Quaife is?
Tanya
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Hi Tanya
You obviously live in Perth too then. Yeah okay sometime in the new year might be good. I live near Fremantle way so maybe we could meet in Fremantle? What do you think?
I'm not sure of any Fred's and that name doesn't look familiar at all, sorry. However, I have just recently found another relative via my job. My bosses wife's dad is John Thorpe (Jack, as he calls himself) and is the same generation as my dad and his brother. So I figured out that they have the same g/granddad - John Thorpe b. 1832 son of Benjamin and Jane. This is how I found out that my dad's grandfather was William son of John and Johns (Jack) grandfather was Edward also son of John. So William and Edward are brothers therefore that makes my dad and Jack 2nd cousins?? I think, I get a bit confused with this stuff.
Anyway I have a book that Jack wrote mainly about his time in the war and being a POW, but also he talks a bit about his roots and where he came from. I will bring this along with a couple of other things I have.
Linda :)
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Hi Tanya Linda,
I am related to this family , they are my 5x great grandparents,
I come down through John Thorpe and Mary Ann nee Barry
regards
brenny
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Hi Brenny,
Nice to meet you! I have some photo's of the Barry family. Again they are from the Beacham family album. Nell and Maggie Barry as children. Catching up with Linda soonish maybe we can make it a big meet and great if you live in Perth too.
Regards
Tanya
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Hi Tanya,
Thanks I don't know much about this line I have a few bits of information and I live near fremantle too. I would like to see some pic. Have been to the house with my Nana I' ll send you a private email.
regards
brenny
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Hi Brenny
I'm from John and Mary's line as well they are my gg grandparents. Their son William is my g granddad then he had a William (my granddad) and the my dad is William.
Do you know which of john and Mary's 10 children belong to your line?
My dad told me yesterday that there's going to be a reunion for the Thorpe family in April near the old cemetery in Rockingham/Kwinana, he read in the West Australian in the 'can you help' section. When I find out the correct details I will let you and Tanya know and anyones who's interested.
Cheers Linda :D
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Hi Linda,
Thanks for the reply I come down through Jane Elizabeth Thorpe and she married Thomas Hanretty.Yes I know about the Newspaper on the Thorpe's It is a cemetery dedication they are looking for some one to write a brief history and present it on the day also wanting descendants to attend I have been to a few, as I am linked to The Bell , Hymus , Chester, Withnall and others from the Rockingham area. also sorry about the late reply we have had the power of most of the day. It is undertaken by the Rockingham Museum . I can send you my private email and scan the information if you like.
cheers
Brenny
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Hi Brenny
So Jane is my g granddads sister, cool! anyway looks like you're up to speed with everything more so than myself. Yeah if you want send your email that's fine.
Linda ;)
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Hi Brenny & Linda,
Just got of the phone to Wendy Durant, the curator at the Rockingham Museum. We were talking about photo's etc and I told her that I would send through all that I have so that the museum can get copies for the day. Was wondering if you were both interested in this as well....What I found really odd is that they don't have a photo of Pines Cottage when it was still standing....
Are you both planning on going?
Tanya
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Hi Tanya and Brenny
Yeah my dad will probably want to go so I'll be there.
Yeah I'm surprised they don't have any of the cottage too, that book of mind has a couple of photo's, though my brother has it the moment.
Well I've got both your emails will send mine.
Linda :D
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Hi Brenny and Linda,
I have lost to the details for the cemetary dedication tomorrow. If one of you will check your emails before leaving can you right down the time and place for me please. Short of that I will take my chances!! Thanks!!
Tanya
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Hi Tanya
Sorry didn't get your message until now. Did you find the place ok? I went with my dad (Bill) and brother (David), I looked around at afternoon tea to see if I could see you or Brenny as we had name tags on, but no luck. I met my cousin for the first time and she had lots of great photo's of my dad his dad and his mum which was really nice to see. I finally got to see what my nana Ruby looked like, she was beautiful. My boss was there aswell as his wife was a Thorpe, so that was a bit weird.
anyway it was a good day, it would be nice if we could all catch up like that every so often.
Linda :D
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goof evening from Paris
what i know my grand grand-father was Thorpe from London located in Elmroad
upper richmond road he was architect he used to work for the famous new big sewer made by the 18 century after the terrible cholera epidemic.
he had 9 children one of them was my grand-mother grace ethel Thorpe
she had 2 girls Ivy and Gladys, i am the Gladys son.
does the Thorpe coming from the same area?
i know nothing about this side of the english family
thank you to your comments
my best regards
Reilly
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Hi Reilly,
Nice to meet you. Unfortunately I can't answer that question. My Thorpe ancestors originated from Shropshire, UK. Living around the Buildwas area. I have not found a connection to London, but that is not to say that there isn't one. I have not traced the entire tree as it is huge, many children and so therefore many decendants. If you have a look at previous replies on this post, most of the ancestry line appears. My ancestors emmigrated to Australia in the early 1830's and lived in the Rockingham area of West Aust. Please have a read through the replies and if you can match anything up, I would love to hear from you again.
Cheers from the Land Down Under!
Tanya
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Hi, Tanya here. Lost my password for Rootschat and have just gotten back into searching. Not sure if you both still come on here, but figured only one way to find out.
:)
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Hi all I’m a descendant if Benjamin thorpe and James Jill 👍 their daughter Mary Ann was my great great grand mother 👍 been researching and found out tis bits here n there keen to cross reference if you like .
Cheers
Chic62