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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: Keith Sherwood on Tuesday 17 June 08 17:31 BST (UK)
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Hi, Everyone,
Thanks to being PM-ed about my gt-gt-gt-grandfather William FELL/S, I've now had my first look at his whereabouts for nearly 2 years, courtesy of my more recently acquired Ancestry subscription.
In both the 1841 and 1851 Censuses he is living at Little Morton, Babworth.
I notice that there is a Little Morton Farm mentioned in a modern day bus timetable of the area. William was a farm bailiff there in 1851, and I was wondering whether someone with local knowledge could tell me whether it is a working farm still today...
Very best wishes,
keith
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Hi Keith,
Wondered if this might be it:
Under R E Howard & Son:
http://www.locallife.co.uk/bassetlaw/crops3.asp
Paulene :)
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Keith, if you don't get your answer by paulene's link , why not email the local library nearest to the farm and ask them about what the place is today. The local libraries i have found to be very helpful.
charlotte
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Hi, Paulene and Charlotte,
Thanks very much for trying to solve this one for me, and yes, I think it's a good idea to try contacting the local library to see whether they can help me...
keith
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Hi Keith and Charlotte,
If you have no luck with a local library (and it seems to be a remote area), you could try contacting the nearest samll post office - they usually know most people in the area, and where places are.
Paulene :)
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Keith, Paulene's suggestion of the PO is excellent- I'd go with that especially if you can somehow find their email address.
charlotte
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Thanks so much again, Paulene and Charlotte,
Nice to find the suggestions still coming in...!
keith
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Keith, tell us how you get on please.
charlotte
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Hi
Just found this thread after some idle browsing. I live at Little Morton Farm, and our family has lived here since 1887, when the farm was rented from the Duke of Newcastle.
We have been farming continuously since we moved to Little Morton, and grow a wide range of crops and have a herd of aberdeen angus cattle. We also grow about 75% of the UK chantenay carrot crop.
We are just in the process of renovating the farmhouse, and will be moving into it in a couple of months.
What a small world!
Andrew Howard
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Hi, Andrew, and welcome to Rootschat!
This is very exciting, and fits in with all my ideas about things somehow still remaining after all kinds of change and the passage of many years....
William FELL's daughter, my gt-gt-grandmother Sarah, found her way to London where she married a man descended from generations of Framework Knitters in the Leicestershire/Nottinghamshire area; before their own offspring headed to Eastbourne as a minor vaudeville act. A long way from the farms of Notts - but very reassuring to hear that farming still continues at Little Morton Farm. I don't suppose there are any records left of who worked there 160 years ago, but if you do ever come across anything that might be of interest, please get in contact.
I believe that you have to post at least 3 times on here before you can use the PM (Personal Message) facility to communicate via personal e-mail eventually.
I also have a cousin who is a fellow-Rootschatter, and as we obviously have William FELL as a common 3-times-gt-grandpa, I'll now send her this thread to have a look at too.
Many, many thanks,
keith
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Hi - thanks for the speedy reply!
I have some records which basically go back to when we took on the tenancy in 1887, but there are no records of employees as such.
I have put a request into the National Trust at Clumber park to see if their archives hold any records about the farm. The Clumber estate used to belong to the Duke of Newcastle (from whom we used to rent the farm) and was acquired by the NT some time ago - I am hopeful they have kept some records as they are generally quite good at that sort of thing! I will let you know how I get on.
Regards, Andrew.
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That would be brilliant, Andrew!
If you simply acknowledge my reply, very briefly, it would mean that you've got 3 posts on here, and then I could PM you and give you my e-mail address for any future conversation...
Very best wishes, keith
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http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Little+Morton,+Babworth.&hl=en&sa=G&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sout=1&biw=1276&bih=788
might try this
sylvia
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat, Andrew, and thanks for putting in the request to the NT. Hopefully they'll be able to find some more details of our ancestors' lives. It makes them more real when you have something more than the bare bones of births, marriages and deaths :)
KR
Maryam
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Hear, hear, Maryam,
And I must look up what a Chantenay carrot looks like...
Maidmarianoops, that link is very interesting indeed, thanks for putting those photos on this thread too
keith
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http://www.chantenay.co.uk/history.php :)
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Maryam,
What a lovely bunch that is - should improve my night vision hugely...
keith
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Hi
Just found this thread after some idle browsing. I live at Little Morton Farm, and our family has lived here since 1887, when the farm was rented from the Duke of Newcastle.
We have been farming continuously since we moved to Little Morton, and grow a wide range of crops and have a herd of aberdeen angus cattle. We also grow about 75% of the UK chantenay carrot crop.
We are just in the process of renovating the farmhouse, and will be moving into it in a couple of months.
What a small world!
Andrew Howard
This is most interesting, especially if further information on who was employed there comes to light. This page of mine will explain my interest - C:\Users\Malcolm\Documents\My RootsPages\grant1rb.html
As you can see from the photo of my gt.grandfather Charles Grant, he is wearing a game keeper's uniform though is described as a farm labourer on his death certificate in 1874. So I feel that Charles was employed on a large estate, perhaps Babworth Hall or Morton. The picture of his wife Elizabeth (nee Morris) has a very faint outline of a big house in the far background. I have never been able to find out where this is. Note too that Charles's grandfather - my gt.gt.gt.grandfather William Grant was working for a Mr Wright in 1796. William was accidentally ran over by a Water Cart in 1818 and died three days later. I have a copy of the Coroner's Inquest certificate and a newspaper report tells us what happened. William had driven the Cart into the Village Pond and was filling the big Barrel whilst standing on a wheel. The horse went forward and William went under the wheel. This must have been a common practice as I found a photo of such a Water Cart in a village pond.
Malcolm
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Hello again, it's been a while since I visited this site! Can I help ID any photos? You can see some of our photos at www.howardfarms.co.uk. There are some of the farm from years ago on our history pages.
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Hello, I realise that this is a rather old thread but I was fascinated to read that Dalaifarmer's family have lived at Little Morton Farm, Babworth since 1887. In 1891 my great grandmother's brother, William Lucas was living at Morton Farm as a groom. My great, great grandparents (William and Shady Lucas) and my great grandmother (Mary Jane Lucas) were living in Little Morton Cottages. Do they still exist? great great grandfather was an agricultural labourer so presumably at Little Morton Farm.