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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: hevinchch on Tuesday 17 June 08 12:01 BST (UK)
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Hiya
I'm hoping someone may have some info or shipping records for the following family:
Annie ANDERSON nee BORLAND was approx 4yrs of age when she came to NZ from Scotland
I think her parents were Thomas & Ann BORLAND.
Thomas cemetery record (thanks to COD database) shows he came to NZ in 1863
If I have the right parents they had 6 daughters.
Much appreciated
Hev
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You really have to work from the known, backwards.
You should get your Annies death certificate or marriage cert to confirm her parents.
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Hi Hev,
A J. BORLAND aged 36, single, arrived at Port Chalmers on the ALHAMBRA via Melbourne VIC AUS. It departed that port on 7 March 1863.
This is the only record I could find, so perhaps the family was on one of the many immigrant ships that didn't call at Melbourne.
I concur with Mk2_Zephyr about working back from the known to the unknown, but have you checked the 1861 Scotland Census for her aged about 1? This might be a short cut.
Do you have any other information about her which might help? (Edit: She married Thomas John ANDERSON in 1882)
riley
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A long bow being drawn here...but there is a reference for a Annie ANDERSON in People of Port Chalmers p.22. This was compiled by Ian Church if I recall correctly.
If you think this might be the correct person I suggest that you email the Port Chalmers Museum, Beach Street, Port Chalmers at: pcmuseum@xtra.co.nz as they hold this resource. It is a living document, e.g. they will edit or add entries if new information is provided, so feel free to do so.
Regards, riley
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Hi Riley & Mk2_Zephyr
Thank you both for your interest
I agree I will need to request the marriage cert to confirm Annie's parents
Now I've realised that Annie was actually born in Tasmania, then came to NZ with her parents at age 4.
Riley, thank you for your suggestion re Port Chalmers Museum.
I will follow that up and see what happens.
I did find there is a photo held at the Otago Early Settlers Museum
Only data with this says that she came to NZ on the Electric 1863 but I haven't been able to find that either.
Cheers
Hev
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Hi Hev,
The ELECTRIC, Captain Marshall, travelled to Port Chalmers, departed ENG? on 3 June 1863 with 224 passengers http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/shipping/mig-nz2.htm
From NZ Bound http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/otago1863.htm we learn that she arrived on 4 June 1863 and her port of departure was Glasgow SCT and 126 passengers...hummm, this conflicts with the info above...++submit more cheese++redo from start++
Ships to NZ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~shipstonz/portchalmers1.html it seems to be 118 passengers. No link to any passenger list website.
Still early days but there are some ideas for later.
Regards, riley
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Thank you Riley
I'm thinking I'll put a search request to the Andrew Turnbull Library and see if they have any shipping lists
Appreciate your help
Hev
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Hi Hev,
I have to go in to Archives for another enquiry next week so I'll have a quick look for the ELECTRIC there as they hold shipping lists.
riley
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If you look on Papers Past http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast you'll find a few references to Borland including one for a Thomas Borland who lost part of one leg in a train accident in Port Chalmers, and a 'D. BORLAND' who was a passenger to NZ on the TIMARU in 1883.
SHOCKING ACCIDENT.
Tuapeka Times, Volume VIII, Issue 461, 19 May 1875, Page 5:
A very serious accident happened on the Dunedin and Port Chalmers rail way line last week. It appears that Thomas Borland, laborer, of Athol place, was walking along the line towards his house last evening, at about 7.50 o'clock, and when he reached the end of Hanover street his right foot got jammed between the rails and he was unable to extricate himself. The up-train, the last one that night, at this time had just left the Pelichet Bay Station, and although Borland called for help, the train bad passed over his left leg a little below the knee before any assistance could be rendered. Some neighbors then got him extricated and had him placed on a door and conveyed to the Hospital
riley
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:o :o :o
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Love the expressions Zephyr :D
Hi Riley
Shocking alright..........yes I had found these articles.
This is part of the reason for my hunt. If this is the correct father, and the same one that also assaulted his wife (refer Papers Past 9/10/1872) then poor Annie had some interesting parents !!
There is also a "Lunacy Case File" held for an Ann Borland at the Dunedin Archives Office
I just made a trip to Dunedin..........wished I'd found this earlier so I could have viewed the file - will have to wait till next time.
Unless there's someone in Dunedin who do a lookup for me ...........PLEASE !!
I received a reply back from the Port Chalmers Museum (very speedy)
They confirmed the ELECTRIC ship but no passenger lists
The Annie Anderson they had listed didn't seem to fit.
He did suggest that The Hocken Library holds an account of the voyage - so will try that avenue next.
If you need any Chch lookups let me know - I really like they way people are keen to help each other.
Cheers
Hev
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Hi Hev,
I don't believe there's a Rootschatter based in or near Dunedin.
You need to get that certificate to make sure!
Regards, riley
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Well I just received a reply from the Hocken Library........Dunedin people are so accommodating :)
"Please find attached copies of reports of the arrival of the Electric from the Daily Telegraph of 4th and 5th June 1863 and Otago Daily Times of 4th, 5th and 9th June 1863. Unfortunately the names of the steerage passengers were not given and we do not hold any separate passenger lists for that voyage."
So my only hope is if you find anything at Archives Wgtn
This ship came direct from Glasgow so my info re Annie being born in TAS must be incorrect.
I am definately going to request her marriage cert !
Have a good day ;)
Hev
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Hi Hev,
I checked some resources at Archives NZ today and found several BORLAND families arriving to NZ but no reference to any voyage of the Electric (which doesn’t exclude it of course).
A family of Thomas and Mrs. Agnes BORLAND with children Elizabeth and Thomas arrived in Auckland on the Auckland in 1874 (Archives NZ reference: IM 15/164).
The following BORLAND’s arrived on the Zealandia in 1870 (Archives NZ reference: IM-CH 4/93): Adults: Maggie, Emma and James. Children: Charles, Emma, Robert, Sarah, William and an infant, John.
The following BORLAND’s arrived on the Mersey in 1862 (Archives NZ reference: IM-CH 4/41): Adults: Janet, Robert (and one whose name I forgot to transcribe. If you think they might be yours I’ll go back and get it). Children: Robert.
Regards, riley
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The following BORLAND’s arrived on the Mersey in 1862 (Archives NZ reference: IM-CH 4/41): Adults: Janet, Robert (and one whose name I forgot to transcribe. If you think they might be yours I’ll go back and get it). Children: Robert.
Hi
Just to save you a trip, Riley. ;)
> "Mersey" from London ? (29 May 1862) to Lyttelton (25 September 1862) :
BORLAND - Robert (38), farmer, Janet (36), Robert (4) and Janet (1) :
[Source: www.yesteryears.co.nz ]
Lu
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Hi Riley..........and Lu
Riley, thank you for all your efforts.
I don't believe any of these are my family but I will keep the details just in case I'm proven wrong.
Just waiting on that certificate !!
Happy searching
Hev
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Hi,
I have marriage certificate for 25 April 1882 at The Office of The Registrar Of Marriages Dunedin. Registration no 1882001506. Annie Borland was born in Scotland (I think Milton, Glasgow), no date (I think 1858/9). She married Thomas John Anderson who was born in Tasmania. He is listed as a builder.
Annies parents are Ann (nee McLarty) and Thomas
Thomas's parents are Christina (nee Twinbull) and Thomas.
I also know they had 7 children (my grandmother was one)
Eva Elizabeth 20/3/1910
Annie Laura 2/4/1911
Thomas Edward 23/9/1912
Catherine Finnie 17/7/1917
Edith Margaret 29/4/1919 (my grandmother)
(*) Edit by Moderator: Names of possibly living persons removed
My granny said she thinks Annie was a barmaid in Kawarau in goldmining days.
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