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Various Whakapapa or Maori genealogy recorded by Jack Steedman and written in his two books that i have. Are you searching your whanau or family history. I can do a search for similar names or family names. Contains info on seven canoes, there landfalls and there whakapapa :) ;D ;D
Tangiwai
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Hi, how far down does this go, OPOTIKI??
Bye
Althea
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Hi Tangiwai,
Would be interested in any material on WHAKAAWA, PEPENE or NGAPOTU family names, some are from Te Aroha, some are from Matakana.
:)
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This is an old post but is this one of yours Mk2_Zephyr ??
Judith William Grey Nicholls married Harete Te Whakaawa of Matakana Island. Born 6 December 1818, died 13 December 1900 and is buried in the Te Aroha Cemetery. They had six children, the eldest being my g/grandmother Hariata Harriet Nicholls
http://genforum.genealogy.com/nicholls/messages/564.html
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No,
but the author is one of the cuzzies,
thanks, :)
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Close but no cigar !!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
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Hi, how far down does this go, OPOTIKI??
Bye
Althea
Tangiwai here, yes goes to opotiki on the east coast,
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No,
but the author is one of the cuzzies,
thanks, :)
Hey there
he one of my late cuzzies to from pukenga as well. Was always a pleasure to be in his company and learning the stories and whakapapa he had.
Piki te ora, Piki te kaha, Piki te maramatanga
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Sorry Tangiwai,
I meant the thread writer, not your book author. :)
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All good mk2
tangiwai ;D ;D ;D
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Hey MK2 i have this whakapapa for you
TAUAITI = HINEAORANGI
PONUI
TUANA = MAPUNA
TE HUOTERANGI = HINEURU
MEROITI or NGAPAEA = HARU
WHAKAAWA = WILLIAM NICHOLLS
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ihoa onga mano
matua tama wairua tapu
me nga anahera pono
mete mangaii
ka te ano
tangiwai
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hey mk2_zephyr
heres some more for you.
TINIOAWA = TAKIRI
AWATU
WAIRUA
ARATAPU
PEPENE
TE HAPE
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Excellent,
the first is correct for sure, I will check the second, :)
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tena koe tangiwai, what areas of Taranaki do you have on your whakapapa info? mabel/mepara/ngapera - gordon/snooks is one woman i am trying to connect.
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kia ora pixie6
do you have any parents names for this woman.
ka te ano
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mk2_zephyr
ka pai. here is what i have.
PUKENGA
WHETU = RANGITUMAI
TUHOKIA = TE AOHOKAIA
WAIPAIA
UREKAWA
RANGITEKANAWA
TAMATIRA
NGAWHETO
TE RAUPAKA = RORORUIA
MAAPUNA = TUANA
TE HUU = HINEURU
MEROITI = HARU
WHAKAAWA = WILLIAM NICHOLLS
HARETE = JOSEPH SMALLMAN, JAMES TONUI = HERA KIRIWAITAI, HERA, HUHANA & WILLIAM KEREI NICHOLLS = RIHITOTO
ihoa onga mano
matua tama wairua tapu
me nga anahera pono
me te mangaii
ae.
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ka pai,
thats the whanau, :)
James PONUI N, though
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kiaorA TANGIWAI, HER PARENTS WERE MOTHER, ELESHA/ALICIA/ALICE SNOOK(S) AND FATHER MAORI NAME NOT RECORDED, ALICE BORN PATEA AS WAS MABEL AND MABEL RAISED IN HUNTERVILLE BY ALICE GORDON, SO SHE DID NOT CARRY HER FATHERS NAME, BORN 1896, DIED IN CHCH 1930 AGED 33.
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Hi there,
Have just found a connection with William Nicholls & Te Whakaawa.
Their Daughter Alice Grey Nicholls married Charles John Dearle...
Their Daughter Annie Dearle married George William Rogers...
Their Daughter Elsa Mabel Jean Rogers, born 1907 Morrinsville, married Eric Howard in 1928...
I am related to Elsa through my father's side. She passed away 1956, Tauranga.
If anyone can share with me any information on these families, their life in and around Te Aroha etc, and especially certificates or photos i would be so very grateful.
I have Elsa's Birth, Death and Marriage certificates.
Thanks!
AnitaMahina
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Hi AnitaMahina ;D
Charles John DEARLE returning officer 1885
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&srpos=1&cl=search&d=TAN18851003.2.33.1&e=-------en-PubMetaTAN-1----0dearle-all papers past
It maybe a good idea to start a new thread, then we can keep hunting for what DEARLE etc info you need
Like do you have all the burials, children etc
BYe
Althea
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Hi Althea,
Thanks for that link to paperspast...I have added a few new posts with my Rogers/Dearle/Nicholls enquiry - hopefully in the right places!
Yes I have general info such as Births, deaths and marriages...at least back to William Nicholls.
Would love to find more indepth info about the family and especially photos...
Cheers!
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Just following up this branch of the family after about 3 years!
Does anyone have any 'new' information, are these ancestors published in any history books etc?
Would love to see some photos of them...
;D
Also, Does anyone know where Hera Te Whakaawa was buried?
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I may have told you this already Anita, but (Hera) Te Whakaawa Nicholls was buried on Matakana Island. She died 1887 according to records a librarian at Tauranga library gave me. Te Whakaawa's name was recorded on a list of people buried on Matakana Island with the date 1887 next to her name. One of my cousins is over on the island alot, but she has been unable to find a headstone with Te Whakaawa's name on it on the urupa - but it may have deteriorated since she died 124 years ago.
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Cheers Leanne, that does sound familiar - great idea to post it here for the other researchers :)
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Yep exactly. Thought I'd put it on the board to share with everyone :)
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Thanks for posting the info on Matakana Is
certainly fits in with some Newspaper reports concerning relations lineage..
I'll post these links for Marae, incase they could be part of puzzle
OPUEORA http://www.naumaiplace.com/site/opureora/home/welcome/
Te Rangihouhiri Marae http://www.naumaiplace.com/site/te-rangihouhiri/home/welcome/
Bye
Althea
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The second marae link is intresting under HISTORY
they say they became known as Ngai Te Rangi
looking at the family tree given for Hera earlier given...earliest descendant given was Tauaiti and
there lineage is given in this document, confirming they were Ngaiterangi
A war party of Waitaha and Ngati Ranginui decided to go to Maketu and do something to take revenge on Ngaiterangi. They had got as far as Te Tumu when they came upon two men of Ngaiterangi collecting toetoe to thatch the roof of a house. These men were Tuwhiwhia, one of the sons of Rangihouhiri, and Tauaiti, son of Tuwhiwhia. They killed Tuwhiwhia, cut off his head and put his headless body in a canoe and set it adrift down the Kaituna. Tauaiti was taken back to Tauranga, tortured, and then killed. Before he died Tauaiti prophesied, "My pain is shallow compared to the ocean of pain to come."
http://econtent.tauranga.govt.nz/data/libraries/files/evelyn_stokes/battle_kokowai.pdf
Maybe an email direct to the marae asking an elder for help may be worthwhile to check their whakapap
Bye
Althea
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Thanks Althea :)
A reminder of this Papers Past Obituary for WG Nicholls, which also mentions Te Rangihouhiri:
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=OG19150716.2.21
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Thanks for that Althea. I definitely have Ngaiterangi as the tribe and the hapu as Ngati Tauaiti from handwritten notes of ancestors, tribes, hapu and waka that have been passed down from older relatives - but I stumbled upon a newspaper clipping where Te Whakaawa's daughter Susan Nicholls is mentioned along with the tribe "Ngatimura" - I can't figure out where that tribe fits in with Ngaiterangi or if it even does. From my understanding Ngatimura are Tuhoe - unless it's a typo and should be Ngatimaru which would make sense coz they're from the Hauraki to Tauranga region (and also Taranaki) but the article was printed 3 times and each time it was spelt as Ngatimura. Can't figure out the tie with Ngaiterangi. Here's the link....
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=BOPT18771110.2.6.3
The second marae link is intresting under HISTORY
they say they became known as Ngai Te Rangi
looking at the family tree given for Hera earlier given...earliest descendant given was Tauaiti and
there lineage is given in this document, confirming they were Ngaiterangi
A war party of Waitaha and Ngati Ranginui decided to go to Maketu and do something to take revenge on Ngaiterangi. They had got as far as Te Tumu when they came upon two men of Ngaiterangi collecting toetoe to thatch the roof of a house. These men were Tuwhiwhia, one of the sons of Rangihouhiri, and Tauaiti, son of Tuwhiwhia. They killed Tuwhiwhia, cut off his head and put his headless body in a canoe and set it adrift down the Kaituna. Tauaiti was taken back to Tauranga, tortured, and then killed. Before he died Tauaiti prophesied, "My pain is shallow compared to the ocean of pain to come."
http://econtent.tauranga.govt.nz/data/libraries/files/evelyn_stokes/battle_kokowai.pdf
Maybe an email direct to the marae asking an elder for help may be worthwhile to check their whakapap
Bye
Althea
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http://www.ngaituhoe.iwi.nz/TribalAuthorities/TeKomitioRunga.aspx
certaily seems that way, Tuhoe
Te Poho o te Rangimonoa (Marae) Ngāti Mura (Hapu)
Katikati would be a bit far south and west to have Ngati Maru affiliations, I would have thought
I'll check out Mr Turoa's Hauraki book in the morning to see if there are any mentions
the block of land seems to feature alot in land dealings
No. 59—Petition of Para Te Hiwinui and 3 Others.
Petitioners pray that the Rereatukahia Block, which was sold to the Government by Moananui, may be returned to them, as it was wrongfully sold.
I am directed to report as follows: That the consideration of this petition be postponed till next session.
21st August, 1888
Moananui, was her brother?? wasn't he...plus could have connections to Ohinemuri chiefs
Bye
Althea
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Hi Althea
Only from what I've found on the net, the Ngati Maru (Hauraki) rohe extends from Warkworth and Great Barrier Island, to as far south as Katikati - and I can't tell if it quite includes Matakana Island or not - but it's very close to including Matakana Island if it doesn't. I have know idea how official this map is though.
I found an excerpt from a book that features William Grey Nicholls' (son of William and Te Whakaawa Nicholls) wife Rihitoto Mataia and there's quite alot of talk about Ngati Maru - but then that might be her tribe, and not necessarily relate to the Nicholls'. Here's the link:
http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=_bFIjBgnPUYC&pg=PA53&lpg=PA53&dq=rihitoto+mataia&source=bl&ots=k2nMMYXren&sig=37zVz82PgVL_SmBFggiak4tRkIg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iigCT638EaWWiQfC5ISlAQ&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=rihitoto%20mataia&f=false
The plot thickens ;) Enjoying brainstorming with you.
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Have got that book, will have a look
The best book on Hauraki tribes is
"Te Takoto o Te Whenua O Hauraki - Hauraki Landmarks"
by Taimoana Turua and Charles Royal
Included are details of Katikati and the tribal connection, early tribal intermarriages forming a link..but many battles
I think that Susan was definitely Ngati Mura
So very much the Katikati base and close Matakana connections..when you look at amap you can see how close they were then connected..if nothingelse physically to the Te Aroha maori and the MARUTUAHU confederation of tribes..of which Ngati Maru are part
there were lots of passage backwards and forwards and the odd battle
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1884
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=BOPT18840318.2.8&srpos=7&e=-------10--1-byDA---2ngatimura--
some great court cases over the land Ngatimura and Te Moananui claims over ownership of Matakana
great lineage descriptions and how they all intertwine
ye
althea
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Thanks for that. I'm finding lots of articles on land secretly sold by Te Moananui.
Ngaiterangi with Ngati Tauaiti as the hapu looks like it's correct as per WG Nicholls obituary, handwritten notes passed down to me and also I found a bunch of information on Susan Nicholls' first cousin Ani Ngarae. Ani and Susan's mothers were sisters - and it says she is Ngaiterangi - Ngati Tauaiti.
Check out page 317 of this link: http://www.waitangi-tribunal.govt.nz/scripts/reports/reports/215/2BBA26FD-7387-42CB-9716-F33598334C2E.pdf (says Ngarae is Te Moananui's sister - and we know Te Whakaawa was Te Moananui's eldest sister, so they are all siblings).
Here's the info on Ani Ngarae (who also features in the Land Caution article on Rereatukahia and on behalf of Ngatimura): http://www.library.tauranga.govt.nz/Default.aspx?TabID=1787&SkinSrc=[G]Skins/Library2011/PrintTemplate&ContainerSrc=[G]Containers/Library2011/Standard&dnnprintmode=true
Just checking out your Ngatimura link now :)
Have got that book, will have a look
The best book on Hauraki tribes is
"Te Takoto o Te Whenua O Hauraki - Hauraki Landmarks"
by Taimoana Turua and Charles Royal
Included are details of Katikati and the tribal connection, early tribal intermarriages forming a link..but many battles
I think that Susan was definitely Ngati Mura
So very much the Katikati base and close Matakana connections..when you look at amap you can see how close they were then connected..if nothingelse physically to the Te Aroha maori and the MARUTUAHU confederation of tribes..of which Ngati Maru are part
there were lots of passage backwards and forwards and the odd battle
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Great stuff. I've now seen Te Moananui referred to as Ngaiterangi and now Ngatimura. Same with Ani Ngarae. So it would appear they were Ngaiterangi AND Ngatimura. Is that the impression you're getting?
I'm just wondering how a Tuhoe tribe found it's way up to the Hauraki/Tauranga Moana region. Must hunt out a book on the subject :)
1884
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=BOPT18840318.2.8&srpos=7&e=-------10--1-byDA---2ngatimura--
some great court cases over the land Ngatimura and Te Moananui claims over ownership of Matakana
great lineage descriptions and how they all intertwine
ye
althea
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Oops, just realised I referred to Ani as Ani Ngarae - her married name was Ani Kuka in case I was confusing anyone ;)
Thanks for that. I'm finding lots of articles on land secretly sold by Te Moananui.
Ngaiterangi with Ngati Tauaiti as the hapu looks like it's correct as per WG Nicholls obituary, handwritten notes passed down to me and also I found a bunch of information on Susan Nicholls' first cousin Ani Ngarae. Ani and Susan's mothers were sisters - and it says she is Ngaiterangi - Ngati Tauaiti.
Check out page 317 of this link: http://www.waitangi-tribunal.govt.nz/scripts/reports/reports/215/2BBA26FD-7387-42CB-9716-F33598334C2E.pdf (says Ngarae is Te Moananui's sister - and we know Te Whakaawa was Te Moananui's eldest sister, so they are all siblings).
Here's the info on Ani Ngarae (who also features in the Land Caution article on Rereatukahia and on behalf of Ngatimura): http://www.library.tauranga.govt.nz/Default.aspx?TabID=1787&SkinSrc=[G]Skins/Library2011/PrintTemplate&ContainerSrc=[G]Containers/Library2011/Standard&dnnprintmode=true
Just checking out your Ngatimura link now :)
Have got that book, will have a look
The best book on Hauraki tribes is
"Te Takoto o Te Whenua O Hauraki - Hauraki Landmarks"
by Taimoana Turua and Charles Royal
Included are details of Katikati and the tribal connection, early tribal intermarriages forming a link..but many battles
I think that Susan was definitely Ngati Mura
So very much the Katikati base and close Matakana connections..when you look at amap you can see how close they were then connected..if nothingelse physically to the Te Aroha maori and the MARUTUAHU confederation of tribes..of which Ngati Maru are part
there were lots of passage backwards and forwards and the odd battle
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Yes that's how I'm reading it..we forget that quite a few tribes moved about 100s of years ago as settlement areas/battle occured....here is the history from that Matakana marae site
Te Rangihouhiri was the Chief from whom Ngai Te Rangi tribe got its name. It was he who
led his people from Tawhitirahi Pa at Opotiki to Uawa (Tolaga Bay) where they enslaved. Having
fought their captors and come to an arrangement, they left the area and travelled north. They s
ettled in many places and fought many battles. It was while they were living in Te Awa o te Atua
near Matata that Rangihouhiri oldest son Tutengaehe was slain in battle at Herekaki. When Te
Rangihouhiri at Whakapaukorero heard of his son’s death, he made the prophecy. “Haere e tama
mou tai ahiahi moku tai awatea.” “Oh my son, you have gone by the evening tide , I will follow by
the morning tide.” And so it was during that great battle of Poporohuamea near Maketu, Te
Rangihouhiri lost his life. From that time the tribe became known as Ngai Te Rangi.
According to whakapapa the Ngai Te Rangi arrived in Tauranga towards the end of the 17th
Century.
http://www.naumaiplace.com/site/te-rangihouhiri/home/page/223/history/
that was intersting the other sisters name, bulding up a much clearer picture of the family ;D
Bye
Althea
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So true Althea.
I just stumbled upon this census link and it lists Ngatimura as a hapu/subtribe of Ngaiterangi... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sooty/maoricensus1881.html
Perhaps some Ngatimura traveled up to Tauranga from Tuhoe, and more or less merged with Ngaiterangi?
Yes that's how I'm reading it..we forget that quite a few tribes moved about 100s of years ago as settlement areas/battle occured....here is the history from that Matakana marae site
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far from an authority but we are talking 1600s that this main movement took place
then later the subtribes develop as numbers increase/merges increase
actually christine of Sooty's pages would be an excellent person to email as a specialist in many areas including the coastal areas on that coast
Bye
Althea
Heres the main iwi page
http://www.ngaiterangi.org.nz/
would be worthwhile emailing them and asking them direct
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What is Sooty's pages? Excuse my ignorance ;)
I just found this link that says Ngatimura is a hapu of Ngaitamahariwa and refers to Te Moananui. So confusing. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=BOPT18840207.2.11&l=mi&e=-------10--1----2--
Yes, I should email someone from the ngaiterangi website direct. Thanks for that.
far from an authority but we are talking 1600s that this main movement took place
then later the subtribes develop as numbers increase/merges increase
actually christine of Sooty's pages would be an excellent person to email as a specialist in many areas including the coastal areas on that coast
Bye
Althea
Heres the main iwi page
http://www.ngaiterangi.org.nz/
would be worthwhile emailing them and asking them direct
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:D We will get to the bottom of this!!!
Now that block of land that susan and the Ngati muru owned
was Rereatukahia Block,
Now there is still today a MARAE in that area/on that land
you would think that this should/must be her main marae???
http://www.naumaiplace.com/site/te-rereatukahia/home/welcome/
Phew!! finally confirmation of the classifications :D
Ngai te Rangi Iwi
Otawhiwhi Marae
Te Rereatukahia Marae
Te Rangihouhiri Marae
Opureora Marae
Rangiwaea Marae
Whareroa Marae
Hungahungatoroa Marae
Waikari Marae
Tamapahore Marae
Tahuwhakatiki Marae
Maungatapu Marae
http://www.tgamoana.co.nz/iwi.htm
Back to canoe
Ngāi Te Rangi
Ngāi Te Rangi are descended from crew members of the Mataatua canoe, and Whaene, brother of Ranginui. The tribe originally lived in Ōpōtiki, but were pushed out by Ngāti Hā and migrated to the Gisborne district. They were not there long before trouble arose again and they moved around the coast to Tōrere and to Whakatāne, finally settling at Matatā. By this time, in the 18th century, they had become known as Ngāti Te Rangihouhiri, named after their leader Te Rangihouhiri. He was the son of Rōmainohorangi, also known as Rongomainohorangi.
While they were there, Tamapahore, the brother of Te Rangihouhiri, went to visit his relations at Maketū. Despite a gift of land, it was not long before war broke out. During one of the battles Tūtengaehe, Te Rangihouhiri’s eldest son, was killed. Overcome with grief, Te Rangihouhiri prophesied his own demise, saying, ‘Farewell my son. You depart on the evening tide, and I shall follow you on the morning tide.’
The next day Te Rangihouhiri entered into battle at Poporohuamea near Little Waihī, and met his end. On his death his people adopted the name Ngāi Te Rangi, rallied to avenge his death, and took possession of the land.
Ngāi Te Rangi were now determined to gain a foothold in Tauranga Moana, the home of their ancestor Whaene. After a series of battles, they secured Tauranga Moana as their permanent home, displacing the Ngāti Ranginui and Waitaha people then in occupation. They eventually settled much of the Tauranga Moana region, including the islands Matakana, Tūhua (Mayor Island) and Mōtītī.
http://www.tgamoana.co.nz/history%20pg%202.htm
Bye
althea
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re Sooty's pages
that link you had for the census had sooty in the address
so I knew immediately they were from christine's pages
here's her main home [age
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sooty/index.htm
Bye
althea
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ok thanks.
I've driven past the Rereatukahia Marae. I traced most of the maori land that my GG grandmother Belle Steadman was a trustee of. There are blocks of land at Whakamarama and Rereatukahia (between Tauranga and Katikati, across from Matakana Island) and also on Matakana Island. I have visited all but the Matakana Island blocks.
I thought that the main marae would be Kutaroa (not mentioned on the Ngaiterangi website, but it's a small marae near Opureora Marae) or Opureora on Matakana Island - because there's a block of land still in 2 of Belle's granddaughter's names... and because Te Whakaawa is buried at Te Ahi Puhipuhi, which is the Kutaroa Cemetery on Matakana Island and is actually part of the block of land that Belle's granddaughters are trustees of. But I've also heard mention of a Te Aroha marae being the main marae with respect to Susan and her mother Te Whakaawa.
I see that the custodian of Opureora Marae is (*). The Kuka's/Ngarae's were cousins of the Nicholls family.
I won't rest til we get to the bottom of it all ha ha.
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Are you registered with the iwi?
Some emails to the surrounding Katikati and Matakana Maraes..should help finalise the connections
I know what you mean about the land lots..my sons are just the same..with lots of ownershipnspread out over a quite large area
Yours is complicated more - those land ownership and sales disputes show that confusion existed between maori owners and the crown alike..no doubt heightened by the changes that seem to kept happening in the iwi itself..past affiliations to other areas etc.
Look forward to what you find out..keep us posted
Bye
althea
PS. I find it extra interesting as my Earl's & Cornes setlled on some of the land in question following the Gate Pa battles. The Katikati Historical Society/Museum may know more of the history
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Thankyou Leanne & Althea - makes for very interesting reading! :)
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I'm not registerd - I would like to be, but I'm only 1/64th maori, so I wonder if they will think that's odd?
Re: Gate Pa.... my GGG Grandfather Richard Hartley Cartman fought in the Battle of Gate Pa, and then married the niece (Susan Huhana Nicholls) of chief Te Moananui, who he would have fought against, some years later.
Are your sons descended from one of the Nicholls siblings, just out of interest?
Are you registered with the iwi?
Some emails to the surrounding Katikati and Matakana Maraes..should help finalise the connections
I know what you mean about the land lots..my sons are just the same..with lots of ownershipnspread out over a quite large area
Yours is complicated more - those land ownership and sales disputes show that confusion existed between maori owners and the crown alike..no doubt heightened by the changes that seem to kept happening in the iwi itself..past affiliations to other areas etc.
Look forward to what you find out..keep us posted
Bye
althea
PS. I find it extra interesting as my Earl's & Cornes setlled on some of the land in question following the Gate Pa battles. The Katikati Historical Society/Museum may know more of the history
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They are Whakatohoe and NgaPuhi..not related
My interest is from the Thames Connection and Nicholls from a history perspective
If you are a descendant, the degree doesn't matter
I recently got my sons registered to the Northland iwi..its a very simple process..most have online registrations or send you the forms
Its a great way to get foot in the door and I know in their case, at this stage I didn't know the hapu and they found it out for me
so quite normal and they would only welcome you
did you see the Missing pieces programme on NZ newsreader
Discovering his maori connection, very interesting
http://tvnz.co.nz/the-missing-piece/themissingpiece-s1-e1-video-4502825
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It said you have to be in NZ to watch that programme...bugger! :-[
It looks so interesting! Hopefully someone uploads it to youtube...or a dvd comes out...
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I did see that programme. I thoroughly enjoyed it too.
Yes I have debated over registering for quite a while and the online form looks simple enough. Might just have to do it now. Thanks for the extra motivation :)
They are Whakatohoe and NgaPuhi..not related
My interest is from the Thames Connection and Nicholls from a history perspective
If you are a descendant, the degree doesn't matter
I recently got my sons registered to the Northland iwi..its a very simple process..most have online registrations or send you the forms
Its a great way to get foot in the door and I know in their case, at this stage I didn't know the hapu and they found it out for me
so quite normal and they would only welcome you
did you see the Missing pieces programme on NZ newsreader
Discovering his maori connection, very interesting
http://tvnz.co.nz/the-missing-piece/themissingpiece-s1-e1-video-4502825
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Here's some more motivation for ya ;)
From Ngai Te Rangi newsletter 9on their website)
"More than 4200 of Ngāi Te Rangi descendants have registered their details with Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Te Rangi Iwi Trust and will therefore have voting powers in key decisions that need to be made in the new year yet according to the 2006 Census more than 12,000 people claim Ngāi Te Rangi as one of their main Iwi.
The team at Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Te Rangi have been working tirelessly to ensure all current information held by the Iwi register is accurate and up to date. There have been some members who have registered their whānau without any contact information or personal details.
To be part of decision making for the future of Ngāi Te Rangi descendants of the Iwi should be fully registered in order to receive communication information and voting papers when applicable. Participation by as many descendants of Ngāi Te Rangi is critical to gain a true impression of what Ngāi Te Rangi wants for their future.
To ensure you are registered phone Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Te Rangi Iwi Trust on 07 575 3765 or email tania[at]ngaiterangi.org.nz.
Post Settlement Planning is crucial and you can be part of creating that vision and who will be charged with that vision. Keep a look our for hui dates and venues near you."
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Good stuff cuzzies .... :)
and thanks Healer .. ;)
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Hi Mk2 (or anyone else in the know...) - would you kindly write down the names and DOB (& spouses too, if known) for the children of WG Nicholls & his brother Hemi/James Ponui?
Have collated all my info and realised I am missing those details...
Also, has anyone seen a photo of Susan/Huhana & Hemi/James Ponui Nicholls? We are missing those two to complete a set of the 5 Nicholls siblings... :)
Cheers, anita :D
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I will double check on the main file.
I am sure there is a photo of James somewhere ...
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Cheers Mk2,
Who did James Ponui Nicholls Marry? I saw two names somewhere, Heki and Mere?
Thanks!
Anita
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Lots of names in this thread on another board
http://genforum.genealogy.com/nicholls/messages/614.html
Bye
althea
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Tena tatou,
I'm born and bred in Katikati at Te Rereatukahia.. Ngarae was my great x3 grandmother. She is a sister to Te Moananui Maraaki, daughter of Tukaki and Pututu.
Is it correct that Te Whakaawa is aslo a sibling?
We have next to no information regarding Ngarae and her movement so I'm hunting for absolutely any information I can find about her.
Nga mihi,
Hone Murray.
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Various Whakapapa or Maori genealogy recorded by Jack Steedman and written in his two books that i have. Are you searching your whanau or family history. I can do a search for similar names or family names. Contains info on seven canoes, there landfalls and there whakapapa :) ;D ;D
Tangiwai
can I please have any information In regards to the taupo/turangi whakapapa
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Kia ora do you have kurauia whakapapa
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Hello,
Welcome to Rootshat..... :)
It appears that Tangiwai was last active on Rootschat in 2010 so perhaps may no longer be participating.
Minniehaha.