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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: castana1985 on Monday 16 June 08 02:08 BST (UK)
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Hi
Does anyone know where or what Watch Hall was in Rochdale?
It appears on the 1891 census.
Thanks
Tracy
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Tracy.
I did a Google Search for 'Watch Hall, Rochdale' & it came up with this: 'Watch Hall, Millgate, Rochdale OL16, UK'
I then put this address in the search box on Google Earth, and it appears that it is a House at the end of Millgate, Rochdale (the present House may even be the one that was there in 1891?)
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Tracy.
I did a Google Search for 'Watch Hall, Rochdale' & it came up with this: 'Watch Hall, Millgate, Rochdale OL16, UK'
I then put this address in the search box on Google Earth, and it appears that it is a House at the end of Millgate, Rochdale (the present House may even be the one that was there in 1891?)
Hi
Thanks for that. I also googled it, and came up with the same map.
I'm guessing it was a tied cottage or something to do with the mill, being on Millgate, as the family I'm researching all had 'mill' jobs!
I wonder if there is anywhere which lists all the mills?
Thanks again
Tracy
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Tracy.
I don't know If there is a 'List of Mills' as such, but If the Mill was Owned By a Firm that is/was Famous (in the Local area or Lancashire as a whole) then there may be a chance of finding a list of Employees for around the dates You are researching?
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Tracy.
I Googled (Again!) 'Rochdale Mills' it comes up with quite a list! ::)
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I wonder if there is anywhere which lists all the mills?
Thanks again
Tracy
Their are a few photos or information on mills in various places.It depends what type of mill you are looking for
Flour,water,wind,corn,are the ones i can think of at the moment.
Celia
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I wonder if there is anywhere which lists all the mills?
Thanks again
Tracy
Their are a few photos or information on mills in various places.It depends what type of mill you are looking for
Flour,water,wind,corn,are the ones i can think of at the moment.
Celia
Hi Celia,
Well my relatives were cotton winders and woolen pickers so..... I guess it would be a textile mill.
Any ideas would be great!
Thanks
Tracy
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Extract from 1851 map , shows Watch Hall about the same place
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx?compid=55125&sheetid=4717&ox=515&oy=3023&zm=1&czm=1&x=645&y=356
Al
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I guess it would be a textile mill.
Any ideas would be great!
A textile mill never crossed my mind ::) ;D
Celia
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Hi Tracey
I've never heard of this Watch Hall. However I;m pretty sure some of Rochdale people lived in Millgate and many of them were linked to the mills.
A couple of other things occured to me though.
There were some quite well known clock & watvh makers in Rochdale. Could it habe been linked to one of these families.
Or--this brings me to one of my own queries to come, but I think there may be a "Watch" linked to the polioce, could it be either close to or an expolice premises? I also think I've heard the fire servive called "The Watch".
Or 've heard relatives tell tales about a central clock and a siren that went when the shift chanmged. Could this be close to that building?
I've looked for loads of people among these mills, but I've never met that name.
Probably nothing to do with any of this, but just in case----!!
Good hunting!
Emms
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By the way, I can't see a mill called that in Pigot's 1829.
Emms
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By the way, I can't see a mill called that in Pigot's 1829.
Emms
Hi Emms
I'm just assuming it was a tied cottage as the mother was a 49 yr old widow with three children, who all seemed to work at a textile mill (according to their jobs), & with it being on MillGate.
On that map posted earlier, I think you can just see a few mills further down the road. Can't quite make them out though?
Tracy
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Tracy.
There were (probably) at least 6-8 Mills within walking distance! ::)
On the 1851 Map that 'Al' posted 'Watch Hall' was located on the Opposite side of the road to the present building (s) of that name (and about a dozen Yards North as well) ;)
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In that area of the country "a hall" was often no more than a stone built cottage.
I have come across numerous examples of this in Cumbria.
David
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You may like to try a 1893 map onthis site
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/indexmappage2.aspx
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I was just wondering if anything came of this search? My sister currently lives at watch hall and would love to know some history but is really struggling to find anything?
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat!
Has she checked all the old maps for the spot? Try your wonderful Local Studies! Also, with the maps to help follow the enumerator, if the building of this name has moved, or the name has, has she looked at all the census?
I haven't found anything since I posted before, but many of the buildings called hall I'm aware of in the area are just farms.
One thing, if she has some names of people who were there, she could look for their wills and see what clue that gives when it was handed over.
A small chance, but I gather there are Doomsday records for Rochdale.
Dows it appear in there?
Just some thought.
Enjoy Rootschat!
Best wishes
Emms :)
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Hi
Only other thing I've found is a few references to a Night Watch Hall in a few places - not Rochdale. Couls it have been something similar?
Jusrt a thjought!
Emms :)
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As I said previously a hall simply describes a stone built dwelling constructed at a time when most of the cottages of the poorer people would have been wattle and daub. Prior to the emergence of police forces most small towns would have had a night watchman. It thus seems likely that this would have been his house.
David