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Stanley Hadyn Williams was born 1910 in Llanwnda, Llandwrog to Ellis Wm. & Jane Williams, Lystwrog, Llandwrog. He married Ellen Elsie Owen.
He became a Methodist minister and lived/preached Trefriw.
He officiated at the funeral of my late father in 1973, Liverpool - they were first cousins.
I am trying to find out when Stanley Hadyn Williams died.
Any help appreciated.
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Stanley Haydn Williams (b. 17 December 1910) died May 1992, aged 81. Death registered in Caernarfon Registration District (Volume 25 Page 288).
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Keith,
Many thanks for the death registration information.
Stanley and his wife did not have children, neither did four of his siblings, so I was struggling to find info.
Diolch,
Glenys
p.s. How can I find out about Stanley's preaching history?
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You could try this link. They were very helpful when i was tracing a Methodist minister. It's the John Rylands Library in Manchester.
http://www.library.manchester.ac.uk/specialcollections/collections/methodist/
Sian
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Sian,
Thanks for the link to the Rylands Library; I will see what they can find.
Glenys
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The John Rylands Library are absolutely tops. if they have the info you'll get it from them.
Good hunting.
charlotte
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Good to hear Charlotte.
I have just sent them an email,
Glenys
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Hi All
This site come up with 3 hits for Stanley H Williams when you
search the web site.
http://www.st-deiniols.com/
You can contact them also.
Sandy
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What a lovely place Sandy !
Health farm for the mind ....... I'd love to go there !!
Annie :)
Sorry Glenys ... didn't mean to intrude ... just couldn't resist ! :)
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Annie,
No problems, just glad that you enjoyed the link.
Glenys
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Rev. Stanley H. Williams was a lovely man. He died in 1992 in Llys Twrog, Y Fron, this is the house where he was born and later returned to when he semi-retired.
Y Fron is a small village 7 miles outside Caernarfon. It is in the parish of Llandwrog and was known as Upper Llandwrog, also known as Cesarea at some point.
Rev. Stanley Williams married us in 1982 in Cesarea Chapel, that Chapel has now been pulled down.
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liliwenfach,
Thank you for that; very interesting.
Stanley's parents were Ellis and Jane Williams, nee Griffiths (Bogarad, Llanwnda). Ellis was born Australia, as was my Nain, his sister.
Stanley's grandparents Wm. Ellis and Elizabeth Williams, lived Meillionydd, Upper Llandwrog (Vron). I toured the area a couple of years ago and found their home.
I was fortunate enough to have the help of a cousin of my father who lived Penygroes, to find Meillionydd.
Is Llystwrog still standing?
Glenys
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Hi there,
do you mean - Is Llystwrog still standing?
yes it is and occupied.
Also - Meillionydd, Upper Llandwrog (Vron) this is spelt ' Y FRON', I was brought up there, Stanley used to be friendly with my famiy. I think he had a brother in Australia, a harbour master maybe?????? if memory serves me right.
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Yes he did; Captain Robert Arthur Williams, his wife was Helina (Lena), and they had three children. I have been trying to find any descendants of theirs, but as yet have not been lucky!
Your family would probably have know the gentlemen I mentioned 'Llenyn', he was Thomas Elwyn Griffiths, Muriau, High/Water Street, Penygroes - the Griffiths family had a shop attached to the house.
Glenys
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Hi
When I replied to your posting re house picture I hadn't read all of this and so supplied info you already knew.
There are two cemetries adjacent to each other at Carmel. If you go up from Groeslon, as you reach lower part of Carmel, immediately after passing under the high voltage electricity cables, turn left. Pass houses on left, coal yard on right, and short distance further, on the right, is the Community Council cemetry, where Stanley is buried. Adjacent to it is the Pisgah Chapel cemetry, where his parents etc are buried. Both graves are easy to find, being, in both cases, just a few graves in on the right.
In his obituary in the local paper, there is a long list of close family who have sent flowers. If you don't have this information, and it's of interest to you, I can supply it by PM.
Have you done any research into occupants of Bodgarad ?
According to the C.M. publication Stanley had a science degree.
Emyr
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Emyr,
I don't have details of Stanley's obituary; would very much like to have a copy please. (I will p.m. my email address).
Stanley's mother, Jane Griffith, lived Bogarad, and her grandmother, Ellen Roberts also lived Bogarad.
Jane Griffith married Ellis Wm. Williams 1893, he was born Ballarat, Victoria, Australia, as were three of his siblings, one of whom was my nain Elizabeth. Their parents were William Ellis Williams (1837) and Elizabeth (1847) nee Williams.
The family home from about 1861 was Meillionydd, Upper Llandwrog. Elizabeth (1847) died there in 1924.
I often wondered how my nain Elizabeth came to meet my taid,Robert Owen Jones.......after visiting Meillionydd ,with the help of a relative, I found that further down that lane was the farm dwelling Ysgubor where the Jones family had lived !!!!
Regards,
Glenys
:)
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Was he a minister at Deiniolen as well ? - I remember that nain had a minister of that name .
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Hi
Yes.
Please see posting, 'Anyone recognise this house'. Do you recognise it ?
Emyr
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Nain always assumed that it would be Stanley Williams - a very gentle man with a distinct preaching style - who would bury her . When she died in her mid 90's , we found that her will stated that it would be Stanley Williams who would officiate . By then , unfortunately , he was of too great an age himself.
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Emyr,
More thanks to you for your help :)
Glenys
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There's reference to the family of Stanley Williams in the Ceiri Griffiths book
I can't for the life of my remember which page it is , though .
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Hi Huwcyn,
What is this 'Ceiri Griffiths book' you refer to ?
EmyrBorth
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This book, if you can find it, provides a lot of information about family trees in North West Wales, and Montgomeryshire .There are one or two errors, slips mostly, and discrepancies , but overall its a wonderful help . Strangely enough, almost all the families are rural in origin.
"Achau rhai teuluoedd hen sir Gaernarfon Meirionnydd a Threfaldwyn" By Ceiri Griffith £25
ISBN : 9780954636708 [0954636708] : Unfortunately, out of print, I gather.
Publisher : Y lolfa ( http://palasprint.com/siopa/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=130 )
Vast family trees !
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Hi
This book is available to researchers, but not for loan, at the County Library in Caernarfon; don't know if it's available at the County Archives. It's dwelling orientated, and you need to look up the dwelling name and search within for the person's name. Bodgarad is one of the dwellings featured.Stanley and siblings are featured and part of their ancestry traced back to an Elin Williams/Hugh Owen (no info) thro' their son William Hughes (Tynewydd, Pont y Wlad, and Bodgarad/Bodangharad, b. 1732, d.1777); and to Catherine Cadwgan, Y Benallt, d.1725/William Brereton, Y Benallt, d.1722.
By looking up another dwelling, forgot to note the name (page 236?), you can trace back, William Brereton's ancestry to a Richard Hughes, d. 1680 on one side of his family, and on the other side to a marriage in 1570. Using cross references it might be possible to obtain further info from entries for other dwellings.
EmyrBorth
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I purchased a copy of this book directly from T.Ceiri Griffith; without it I wouldn't have been able to get very far back with my research!
Rev. Stanley H. Williams is mentioned on page 100, this then goes on to trace the ancestry of his mother Jane Griffith.
Page 45 details my gt.grandparents Owen and Jane Jones nee Owen, and four of their children, they had three more , (my Taid was born 1868) and traces her ancestry.
If only my father's maternal Williams/Williams ancestry had been detailed in this book !!!!!! ::)
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Hi
There is a collection of papers/pictures under the heading 'Papers of Rev Stanley Williams and Dr Gwilym Arthur Jones' at Caernarfon Archives. which includes:
Pictures of:
William Ellis Williams and Ellis W Williams (Stanley H Williams' grandfather), managers of Cilgwyn Quarry;
Stanley H Williams' grandmother;
Ellis W Williams, father of Rev Stanley Williams, in frame;
Stanley H Williams as a young boy;
Ellis Ifor, Elsie Mabel and William Ewart Williams, brother and sister of Stanley Williams;
Sir Geoffrey Organe, cousin of Stanley H Williams, Professor of Anaesthetics London University;
Meillionydd family in the garden.
Most of the papers are to do with slate mining and geology, but there are also papers relating to the history and ancestry of the Bodgarad and Meillionydd family/families.
I haven't looked at any of the material, just looked at the catalogue.
As you know the ancestry is included in Ceiri Griffith's book, but there might be some additional information there.
Emyr
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Emyr,
I obtained a couple of years ago copies from the Caernarfon Archives of all the photographs and some papers, not all though, far too many and some were re quarry geology!
Thanks for your help again.
Glenys
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Hi
Do you still have a copy of the book by Ceiri Griffith? Do you know if it's still on sale?
I am researching an Evans family in Llanengan at 2 particular addresses - Ysgubor Wen and Ceiriad Mawr.
It sounds like this book could possibly be of interest in relation to what I'm researching
Lindsay
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Hi Lindsay,
Ysgubor Wen and Ceiriad Mawr are not listed.
Why not post as a new topic.
Emyr