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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: kennyg on Thursday 12 June 08 13:48 BST (UK)
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Looking for help please.
My Grandmother and her twin sister were born in Ontario in 1905. Their Mother brought them back to Scotland shortly thereafter after apprently discovering her husband had been previously married and divorced.
This is a part of my family tree that is quite sparse and if anyone can add some twigs and branches I'd be v. grateful.
William Haining (Coachman) married Jean Lind Main in Ontario in 1904. Both of them were Scottish by birth.
Their twin daughters (Mary and Jean) were born in 1905.
I have records of my Great Grandmother and Grandmother and her sister post-1905.
I'd really like help with any records (B, M or D) available in Canada. William Haining, my Great Grandfather, is a particularly closed book at this stage.
Yours in anticipation,
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HI Kenny,
Do you have the birth registrations of Jean Lind Main Haining and Mary Margaret Main Haining on March 24, 1905?
Karen
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There is the following border crossing for William at Lewiston, Ontario
William Haining
Age: 29
Married
Occupatoin: Coachman
Born: Scotland
Last Residence: Aberdeen
Destination: Cleveland, Ohio
Going to visit Thomas Crouch, Cleveland, Ohio
Arrived in Canada May 4, 1903 in Quebec on the Montrose
Date of crossing July 26, 1905
Karen
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Here's the passenger list for the ship and date he says he sailed
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-119.01-e.php?&sisn_id_nbr=4073&interval=20&&PHPSESSID=fmnjcbc3k1r0clf87uiplso8g1
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There is a William Haining, born Scotland c1876, year of immigration 1903 living in Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan in the US 1930 Census. He is a chaufeur and married to a Jeanette.
Do you think this could be your William?
Karen
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In the 1920 William Haining is a chauffeur, widowed, born Scotland living in Detroit. Lists his year of immigration as 1905.
Karen
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On the border crossing it gives William's description
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 140 lbs
Brown hair
Brown eyes
He has $20.00 in his possession
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It looks as if the William Haining in Michigan is yours.
He enlisted for WWI for the US
Date of Birth: Sept. 23, 1876
Address: Detroit
Occupation: Chauffeur
Citizen of another country: Canada
Nearest Relative: Robert Gerald Haining, Ontario
In the 1881 Scotland census, William son of Mary and William Haining has a brother Robert.
Karen
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Marriage registration for William Haining and Jean Lind Main:
Groom: Haining, William, Age 27, Bachelor, Residence when married Toronto, Birthplace Scotland, Coachman, Parents William Haining & Mary Haining.
Bride: Jean Lind Main, Age 30, Spinster, Residence when married Scotland, Birthplace Scotland, Parents Andrew Main & Jean L. Meikle.
Witnesses: H. G. Edgington, Toronto & Alice R. Brown, Toronto
Married: Sept 23, 1904 Toronto by W. G. Wallace.
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Wow!
Karen, thanks for all the information. I'll take some time to digest and then come back if I'm confused!
I'm not sure about the Michigan link - appearing as widowed in 1920 is strange as his ex-wife (Jean Main) lived until 1957! The border crossing information seems to fit.
I don't have the birth registrations - dates yes but no documentation.
Kooran, thanks for registration info on marriage - much appreciated.
Very much appreciated.
Kenny
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On Family Search Labs you will find information & certificates.
http://labs.familysearch.org/
There is a William Haining, born Scotland c1876, year of immigration 1903 living in Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan in the US 1930 Census. He is a chaufeur and married to a Jeanette.
The above is William Haining & Jeanette Wakeman.
Janice
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Great find Janice. So then that would rule out the Michigan William Haining as he lists his father as James Haining and mother Mary on the marriage certificate to Jeanette.
Karen
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Thanks Janice - it's just as rewarding to narrow the field through definite exclusion as it is to find new possibles.
Family Search Labs looks like a potentially valuable resource for us all.
Thanks again.
Karen, all your hard work on my behalf looks like it's pointing to the BC death - I'll be ordering the certificate and will keep you informed. Looks like he might have conveniently knocked a few years off his age at marriage!
Kenny
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I hate being the bearer of bad news. :'(
Have a look through this site, as there are Haining's mentioned. Not sure if any are related, but always good to have just in case.
Our Roots
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/
Janice
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In the 1905 Directory for Toronto, William's occupation is given as "carpenter".
He was living at 174 Major, Toronto. There was only 1 other "Haining" living in Toronto at the time, and her name was Nellie Haining living at 682 Gerrard, Toronto. (Page 530)
http://www.archive.org/details/torontodirec190500midiuoft
In the 1903 Directory for Toronto, there was only a Mary Haining (widow of Thomas) living at 19 Maplewood, Toronto
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec190300mighuoft
In the 1906 Directory for Toronto, only Nellie Haining was living in Toronto.
http://www.archive.org/details/torontodirec190600midiuoft
Here is a link for all of the directories online at the Internet Archive.
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=toronto%20directories
Janice
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Just for interest.
Here are some links for modern day Major Street.
http://www.thinktorontohomes.com/recently-sold-listings/on-major-street-toronto-prime-south-annex.html
http://flickr.com/photos/may_jon/235002868/
Here is a site that has old photos of Major Street
http://tinyurl.com/9gam2
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Hi Janice,
Thanks for the information but I'm fairly certain that carpenter WH is not mine. At his wedding in 1904 and the birth of his children in 1905 he is a Coachman. I believe both he and his wife were 'in service' (to a railway magnate?) and so wouldn't appear in City directories.
Thanks anyway.
Would anyone reading this thread happen to know if there were any records of ships leaving Canada to go to UK? I think it was between 1905 and 1908 that Jean Haining (Main) took her children back to UK.
Thanks again,
Kenny
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From what I have been able to see, there are currently no inbound passenger lists to the UK on-line. One website states
"There are British inbound passenger lists, but they are not indexed, nor microfilmed. The original inbound lists reside at Kew.
All ships carrying passengers in or out of any British port were required by law to deposit an official passenger list with the relevant port authorities
The records for all these ship passengers travelling between 1890 and 1960 survives within the collection of original British Board of Trade passenger lists. The only place they can be seen is at the Public Record Office in Kew, England.
These lists are not filmed, not indexed and they are not available on-line."
Another says they are being indexed:
http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/09/uk-inbound-passengers-1878-1960.html
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That would be great if they would index the passenger lists arriving in the UK, would help me out alot in my tree ;D
Karen
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Hi
I also have the Hislops of Crawfordjohn as well as the Galls and Lewis's. If you would like I can check my Hislops and let you have the details. I think without looking at my notes one of the Lewis's married a Hislop.