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Boyds, Sealy, Woods
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I am looking for any information that anyone may have on my following relatives:
The information I have is limited.
John McGladdery was born in Ballycor in 1823, his father was called John I have no information on his mother though a John McGladdery wa married to a Jennet about 1775 in Ballycor and they had a son called John in 1786 in Ballycor. I was wondering if this was the grandparent of John McGladdery (born 1823) in Ballycor.
John (1823) married Ellen Strange (born 1827 Ballycor) in 1848 in Ballyeaston, Antrim.
They had six children that I am aware of all christened in Ballyeaston.
Thomas John Baptised 12 Feb 1849
Jane Hay Baptised 12 Feb 1851 (my great grandmother)
Mary Baptised 13 Nov 1852
Sarah Baptised 23 Sep 1854
Margaret Allen Baptised 10 Dec 1857
Anne Baptised 28 Jan 1862
Jane Hay Mcgladdery married James Boyd on 04.11.1870 at Ballynure Presbyterian Church.
They had three children that I am aware of all born in Doagh.
Ellen Jane 25.11.1870
William John 12.06.1872 (my grandfather)
Sarah 06.05.1875
I have no information on James Boyd, when he was born and who his parents were. He is my great grandfather but all I know nothing about him. On his son's wedding certificate in 1903 his occupation is stated as mechanic.
William John Boyd married Elizabeth Kate Sealy on 03.12.1903 at Albertbridge Congregational Church, Knockbreda, Belfast. They had my father William George Boyd on 25.01.1909.
I know that they were tailors and lived in Portallo Street. William John died in 1917 and Elizabeth Kate in the 1941 Belfast Blitz.
I have no information on where Elizabeth came from, on her wedding certificate her father is stated as John dec'd. it does not give her age.
William John's sister Ellen married Samuel Stafford Woods in Ballynure Church of Ireland 15.08.1889.
I have a photo of one of my Dad's aunts but I do not know if it is on William Boyd's or Elizabeth Sealy's side.
Any information would really be appreciated.
Jenny
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hi jenph
I was just looking thought your information about you relatives Baptised in Ballyeaston. Just some additional info for you.
The Church is First Ballyeaston Presbyterian, two churches in the villiage.
The dates of Baptism you have are really the dates of Birth. The dates of Baptism, if you want them, can be found on the original Baptismal Register, which the Public Record Office in Belfast has a copy of on Microfilm. Ref MIC/1P/420.
Jane Hay BORN 12 Feb 1851, according to my copy of the baptismal register, is Jane Hoy. This could be an error by the person putting the records on to computer, but could be worth a look at the original.
The Church did a Congregation census in 1813 but I could not see any McGladderys.
I have just found this information from Emerald Ancestors
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 10 Dec 1846
Groom Name john MCGLATHERY
Bride Name Ellen STRANGE
Church Ballyeaston First Presbyterian Church
Parish Ballycor
Civil District Antrim
County Antrim
Looks like your people. Again Marriage Registers for First Ballyeaston are on the same Microfim as the Baptismal Register if you want to check the information.
Hope this is of some help.
John
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Hi john
Thank you very much for taking the time to look for me.
How can I see a copy of the microfilm I am in England?
Is the microfilm online?
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
No sorry the microfilm is not online.
You try your Local Family History Center and see if they can get a copy of the microfilm. Check out their website
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp
I could check the records for you the next time I am at the Public Records office. It could be mid July before I get back.
John
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Hi John
Thanks again that would be very kind of you.
I do all my research on line as I am unble to get to the records office.
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
Found the following information at the Public Records office Belfast:
Thomas John McGladdery, Born 12 February 1849, Ballycor, Baptised 19 March 1849
Jane HAY McGladdery, Born 12 February 1851, Ballycor, Baptised 17 March 1851
Mary McGladdery, Born 13 November 1852, Ballycor, Baptised 20 December 1852
Sarah McGladdery, Born 23 September 1854, Ballycor, Baptised 5 November 1854
Margaret Allen McGladdery, Born 10 December 1857, Ballyeaston, - Could not find the record but I now have more information and will look for the date of Baptism the next time.
Anne McGladdery, Born 28 January 1862, Ballyclare, Baptised 1 June 1862
Marriage
4 November 1870, Ballynure Presbyterian Church Jane Hay McGladdery and James Boyd.
James Boyd, Full Age, Bachelor, Laborer, Ballygallagh Father John Boyd, Laborer
Jane Hay McGladdery, 19, Spinster, Ballyclare, Father John McGladdery, Laborer
In Presence of William J Boyd & Mary Boyd
Minister Rev. William Kerr
James and Jane Boyd had three children all Baptised in Ballynure Presbyterian Church
Ellen Jane, Born 25 November 1870, Ballyclare, Baptised 29 January 1871
William John, Born 12 June 1872, Ballyclare, Baptised 5 August 1872
Sarah, Born 6 May 1875, Ballyclare, Baptised 30 June 1875.
Hope this gives you a little more information on the People you are looking for.
The names underlined were hard to make out on the originals so they might not be correct.
John
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Hi John
I really am delighted with the information you have given me, thank you very much. It is very kind of you to go to this much trouble.
I wonder who William J and Mary Boyd were who witnessed the marriage it is a pity that witnesses do not say what relation they are or whether they are friends.
kind regards
jenny
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Hi Jenny
I found the information for Margaret Allen McGladdery
Margaret Allen Born 10 December 1857, Ballyeaston, Baptised 16 February 1857
John
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Hi John
Once again thank you very much for your help, I am really gratefull.
kind regards
Jenny
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Hello Jenny,
I've linked this thread to the Boyds, Sealy, Woods (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=308893.msg1977958#msg1977958) thread on the Ireland - General board.
Christopher
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Hi Jenny
I dont know if this will help you
Ballyeaston heads of households 1813
Henry, John and Robert Strange of Ballyeaston
John x2 Strange of Ballycorr
Widow Hay of Ballyeaston
John Boyd of upper Glenwhirry
Mr Boyd of Cogry
Widow Boyd of Rashee
William Boyd of Rashee
There is also this Strange family
http://www.yourtotalevent.com/people/Ireland.htm
Scroll down to Bill Goldings post
Then there was a Adam Strange, they were in Raloo abt 1825, I think they may have come from another area prior to this. Adam had the following children
Nathaniel, Thomas abt 1835, Elizabeth, Agnes abt 1829 she married George Stuart 1848 and another son John.
Nathaniel married Eliza Mackey children as follows
Mary 1868 b. Carrickfergus
Nathaniel 1869 b. Ballynure
Mary Eliza Strange 1871 b Ballynure married one of my distant cousins a Martin
Thomas John Strange 1879 b Raloo
Adam
Jane married David Green 1885
Helena
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Jenny
If you havent had a look at PRONI wills you may want to check them out
Here is a will abstract with a Strange and Woods name
The Will of James Strange late of Ballylaggan Carrickfergus Farmer deceased who died 1 April 1875 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of William Woods of Ballylaggan (Straid) and James Woods of Straidland (Straid) County Antrim Farmers the Executors
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm
Helena
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Hi Helena
Thank you for all this information, there is a lot to go through, I will see if I can connect it to my family.
:D
kind regards
Jenny
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Jenny,
We may be able to help each other. I am descended from the Robinson family of Ardymaugh, Ballycor. I notice that you had listed a George Robinson. My grandfather, George Macaulay Robinson, emigrated to the U.S. in 1899.
I have put some information on the Robinson family at www.genforum.com/robinson
Regards,
Paul
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Hi Paul
My Robinsons are from Kent in England.
I do not know of any of my relations marrying a Robinson in Ireland though Ballycor is a small area so it is a possibility. Do you know who your Robinson was married to?
kind regards
Jenny
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So far, in my immediate family I have the Robinsons marrying into the McCauley and Topping families. However, I understand that one member related to this branch of the family had as his middle name McGladdery. This Robinson was better known as the Bard of Ballyalbanagh.
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About what year was McGladdery Robinson born and do you know who his parents were?
Jenny
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Boyd's, Sealy, Woods
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I am looking for any information that anyone may have on my following relatives:
The information I have is limited.
John McGladdery was born in Ballyhoo in 1823, his father was called John I have no information on his mother though a John McGladdery was married to a Jennet about 1775 in Ballyhoo and they had a son called John in 1786 in Ballyhoo. I was wondering if this was the grandparent of John McGladdery (born 1823) in Ballyhoo.
John (1823) married Ellen Strange (born 1827 Ballyhoo) in 1848 in Ballyeaston, Antrim.
They had six children that I am aware of all christened in Ballyeaston.
Thomas John Baptized 12 Feb 1849
Jane Hay Baptized 12 Feb 1851 (my great grandmother)
Mary Baptized 13 Nov 1852
Sarah Baptized 23 Seep 1854
Margaret Allen Baptized 10 Dec 1857
Anne Baptized 28 Jan 1862
Jane Hay Mcgladdery married James Boyd on 04.11.1870 at Ballynure Presbyterian Church.
They had three children that I am aware of all born in Doagh.
Ellen Jane 25.11.1870
William John 12.06.1872 (my grandfather)
Sarah 06.05.1875
I have no information on James Boyd, when he was born and who his parents were. He is my great grandfather but all I know nothing about him. On his son's wedding certificate in 1903 his occupation is stated as mechanic.
William John Boyd married Elizabeth Kate Sealy on 03.12.1903 at Albertbridge Congregational Church, Knockbreda, Belfast. They had my father William George Boyd on 25.01.1909.
I know that they were tailors and lived in Portallo Street. William John died in 1917 and Elizabeth Kate in the 1941 Belfast Blitz.
I have no information on where Elizabeth came from, on her wedding certificate her father is stated as John dec'd. it does not give her age.
William John's sister Ellen married Samuel Stafford Woods in Ballynure Church of Ireland 15.08.1889.
I have a photo of one of my Dad's aunts but I do not know if it is on William Boyd's or Elizabeth Sealy's side.
Any information would really be appreciated.
Jenny
I have just found information that leads me to believe that the lady in the picture is Ellen Jane Woods(nee Boyd) and the children are her two youngest children Annie born c.1896 and Mary born c.1906.
If anybody has any information on these people I would be really grateful.
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Rough pedigree that is not proven as yet:
Robinson family of Ballycor, Ballyalbana
1. William Robinson, d. 1887
2. Annie Robinson m. Thomas McAuley
1. Thomas Robinson (1785-1867) m. Mary
2. Samuel Robinson (1840-1868) m. Agnes
2. Abraham Robinson m. 1853 Eliza McMullan
2. Thomas Robinson m. Martha
2. James Robinson m. Ann Topping, dau of James Topping and had,
3. Thomas Robinson, b. 1870 Ballynure and Larne
3. Samuel Robinson, b. 1880
3. Jane Robinson, b. 1872 at Ballynure
3. Mary Robinson, b. 1878
2. William Robinson m. 1875 at Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian Church to Sarah Jane McCauley, dau of Richard McCauley, farmer, of Ballyminstra (witness for groom was John Gardner; witness for Sarah was Jenny McCauley)
3. Robert Robinson, b. 1876
3. Mary Robinson, b. 1878
3. Thomas Robinson, b. 1880 at Ballyalbana
3. George Macaulay Robinson, b. 1881; emigrated to the U.S.; m. Honoree Marie Higgins and had,
4. George Leonard Robinson (1911-2006)
4. William Robert Robinson (1914-1987), my father.
4. Thomas Francis Robinson (1915-1985)
4. Joseph Aloysius Robinson (1920-2004)
4. Paul Andrew Macaulay Robinson (1923-1988)
Both the Robinson family and the McCauley family were Presbyterian. Looking for both ancestors and current family members who may be related to these two families.
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As far as I know I do not have any Robinson, Mcauley or McMullan in my Irish family tree. If you find any connection I would be interested!
Jenny
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The Anne Topping who married James Robinson was the daughter of James and Letitia Topping (nee Mc Connell) Letitia's father was Francis McConnell of Ballyeaston born 1790s James and Anne were my Grand parents,my mother was the youngest of their 11 children
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Hi, Laharna,
It is extremely likely that we are related, then. If you wish to e-mail me directly I can
be reached at (*)
Best wishes, Paul
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Hi Pablo 1, No e-mail is Roots Chat policy and as I am new I will have to get some postings before I can use the P.M system in the meantime I hope I can be some help
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Hi, Laharna,
I wasn't aware of their policy. I don't have my notebook with me today or I would send you some of the various possible family connections.
For example, one Robinson-Topping marriage occurred in India. I still haven't figured out if they are related or not. I will send all the additional info I have either tomorrow or on Monday...Paul
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Hi, Laharna,
Various marriages in that area:
1. Thomas McConnell m. 1852 Eliza McCauley and had,
2. Thomas McConnell, b. 1865
2. David McConnell, b. 1868
2. Samuel McConnell, b. ?
2. Elizabeth McConnell, b. 1870
2. Margaret McConnell, b. 1872
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1. James McConnell Robinson m. 1819 Jane McClelland in Ballymena.
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In Calcutta 1906-1911
Arthur L. Robinson m. Maria E. Topping
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1. James Robinson m. abt 1865 Ellen McConnell of Glenwhirry and had,
2. Son, b. 1864
2. Agnes, b. 1866
2. Elizabeth Ann b. 1867
2. Hugh, b. 1871
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Wills at PRONI
William Topping, d. 1900 of Killyglen and Larne
Executor: George Topping
George Topping, d. 1906 of Skerrywherry
Executors: Samuel S. Owen, J.P. and William S. Rea, farmer
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Sarah Topping m. 1887 Andrew Robinson in Ballymena
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hi pablo 1,i,ve been unavailable for a few weeks. are you still able to chat regarding robinson connection?
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Laharna,
Ready to chat at any time. Sent you my e-mail address via this site. Should be in your mail box. Go to the top of the page and click on messages once logged in. Hopefully, it will be there.
Paul
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Possible connections that need to be examined:
1. James Strange b. abt. 1797, Tildarg m. 1822 Agnes Robinson
2. Elizabeth Strange, dau., b. 1823 in Ballyeaston m. 1845 James Campbell in Ballynure.
James was a coal miner in Lanarkshire.
Ballyeaston area:
1. William Hill m.
2. Robert Hill m. Jean Boyd
3. Eliza Jane Hill (1874-1949) m. Thomas John Robinson
3. Rachel Hill m. ? Graham
The above Robinson family is related to the Robinsons of Ballyalbanagh
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Hello Pablo1,
I have been researching the Beggs and the Boyds, and the Beggs have a connection to the Strange family.
Although I haven't tied the Hills into my direct line, I have that Robert Hill married Jean aka Jane Boyd who was the daughter of Thomas Boyd and Margaret Wilson who are buried in Old Rashee. Jane died March 25,1905. Rachel Hill married William Graham.
Do you know the parents of Thomas John Robinson who married Eliza Jane Hill? James Robinson father Thomas married my Mary Lawson Beggs in 1872.
Peggy
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Hi, Peggy. This may of be of some help. Much of this was sent to me by a distant cousin who lives in N. Ireland.
1. Samuel Robinson c. 1700; married ?
2. John Robinson, c. 1740 m. Mary? Jenny? Knox
3. Thomas John Robinson, c. 1775; m. 1 Jean Townsley (Tounsley?); m. 2 Miss McKeown
4. Samuel Thomas Robinson of Braepark and Ballyalbana (c. 1827-1915) m. Jane Robinson?
5. Mary Robinson m. Mr. Agnew
5. Jenny ? Robinson
5. Eliza? Robinson
5. Thomas John Robinson (1874-1947) m. Eliza Jane Hill
6. ? Jane Robinson?
6. Samuel Robinson
6. Rachel Robinson
6. Elizabeth Robinson, b. 1906
6. Robert Robinson, b. 1908
6. Alexander McGladdery Robinson, b. 1910
6. Thomas John Robinson, b. 1913
5. Sarah Ann Robinson, b. abt. 1870 m. Joseph Irwin
6. Olivia Irwin, b. 1891
6. Robert Irwin, b. 1893
6. Jennie R. Irwin, b. 1894
6. Samuel R. Irwin, b. 1897
6. Andrew Irwin, b. 1900
6. Joseph Irwin, b. 1902
6. Mary Irwin, b. 1904
6. William Irwin, b. 1906
6. Agnes Irwin, b. 1907
6. Thomas J. R. Irwin, b. 1910
5. ? Hugh James Robinson? b. 1865
4. Andrew Robinson, c. 1833
4. William Robinson m. 1875 Sarah Jane McCauley
5. George McCauley Robinson m. 1910 Nora Higgins, my grandparents.
6. William Robert Robinson, my father; died 1987.
4. James Robinson m. 1870 Anne Topping
4. Margaret Robinson
4. Grisilda Robinson
4. Sarah Ann Robinson
4. Mary Robinson
4. Archibald Robinson
4. John Robinson, child from 2nd marriage
4. Mary Robinson, child from 2nd marriage? First Mary died ?
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I am trying to figure out these Robinsons. do all the 4s belong to the same parents? How about the 5s and the 6s. I need help.
Peggy
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Peggy, the numbers have to do with the generation, so for example,
Thomas John Robinson m. Jean Townsley and Miss McKeown was the father
of the following:
Samuel m. ?Jane Robinson?
Andrew
William m. Sarah Jane McCauley
James m. AnneTopping
Margaret
Grisilda
Sarah Ann
Mary
Archibald
John
Mary, 2nd Mary...perhaps first Mary died
Samuel m. ?Jane Robinson? were the parents of:
Mary
Jenny
Eliza
Thomas John m. Eliza Jane Hill
Sarah Anne m. Joseph Irwin
?Hugh James Robinson?
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Thank you for this help.
Peggy
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Peggy, you are more than welcome. When I find out more I will keep you informed. One of my Macauley cousins is supposed to be getting back to me soon with information, as well. In Co. Antrim the Macauleys were related to the Gard(i)ners, Buchanans and Robinsons. I am sure that other family relationships will later appear which will help us tie things together.
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My Robinsons start with Thomas, no further info, then James born abt 1850 in Owensland, Ballyvoy, Co. Antrim, who married Mary Lawson Beggs of Ballyvoy,Parish of Kilbride in 1872. I have 9 children, one of which was Henry aka Harry who married Martha Alice Montgomery of the Parish of Rashee in 1909 in Canada. Henry's place of birth is given as Ballymena as per a descendant but I see Duncansland as per nidirect on his birth certificate, Douglasland as per his marriage certificate, and Duncansland as per his death record. I made contact with Robinson descendants literally 25 min. drive from me here in Canada but they don't wish to exchange info. Drat.
Another son of James Robinson and Mary Lawson Beggs was James Beggs Robinson and Mary had an older brother James Beggs. James Beggs Robinson was born July 27, 1874 and married Isabella Burns in 1910. They had a daughter Sarah in 1912 in Doagh but there are no other children on nidirect due to the 100 yr. restriction. Would love to know of further children for James and Isabella if anyone else is researching that branch. I have a possible death for James Beggs Robinson on Mar 27, 1950 in Glenarm, carpenter.James was a carpenter but I am not familiar with the location of Glenarm. Isabella was still alive if this is the correct James.
Peggy
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Thanks for the additional information, Peggy.