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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: scully on Friday 06 June 08 23:29 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Looking for the Following family in the 1871 Cenus.
Hugh Hendrie 56 Monkton
Margaret Hendrie 56 Ayr
Scully
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Your Hendries appear to be as elusive as my own in the census records ;)
There are several Margaret Hendries and several Hugh Hendries but none together.
P.S. are your lot any relation to the Hendries of St Quivox or Wallacetown in Ayr, Some of my line descended from James Hendrie/Jane (Jean) Mair through their son John Hendrie & Jane Dickie
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Hi Falkyrn,
Yes my Hendries do come from St Quivox and Wallacetown. At the moment my Hendries come from Pete Hendry and Mary Monaghan or Madden late 1700s. I only have 2 children for them, which is James Hendrie born about 1823 and married to Marion wood. A Charles Hendrie born about 1837 married to Catherine Coluquon. But i can,t believe that is all the children Peter and Mary had as they seem so far apart. Peter and Mary may have come from Ireland. So I am trying to find out if there were any other siblings.
Scully
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Possibly a link further back - my earliest is james born circa 1777 who married Jane Mair. John Hendrie (their son) was born in 1816 but is the only child I can trace at the moment.
John married Jane Dickie from St Quivox and they had
James,John,Charles,Alexander, Jane (my great x2 grandmother),Margaret, Grace,George & Elizabeth
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Hi Falkyrn
Why is it that nobody else seems to be related to our families even though they seem to be the same surnames and from the same area. I got lucky with one of mine which is the Youngs originally from Ireland in the 1860s. I could only find the one i was following and only the other day i found his parents deaths and 1 cenus with other siblings which makes up any problems that keep happening. Have you checked the Mi,s for your family only i have 8 Books for St Quivox and Ayr if they would be of any help for any of your names. I also have part 1 & 2 Disc,s for early Ayrshire Burials, But you have to have both a Christian name and surname.
Scully
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Hi Falkryn,
I made a mistake about the Ayrshire Burials you only need the surname, I think you need the surname if there are to many with the same surname.
Scully
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Thanks for the offer, I have the St Quivox MI book and unfortunately there's no trace of my lot. I don't know what it is about the 1871 census either as several of them disappear without a trace only to reappear in the 1881 records.
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Hi Falkryn,
I guess we will just have to keep digging.
Scully
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Hi Falkryn,
Do You have the Newton Green Burial Ground Book Because There is a MI Erected by James Hendrie For his Parents John Hendrie & Jane Dickie and some other family deaths.
Scully
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Hi Falkryn,
Do You have the Newton Green Burial Ground Book Because There is a MI Erected by James Hendrie For his Parents John Hendrie & Jane Dickie and some other family deaths.
Scully
Thanks for that - I don't have the book but will purchase it asap. have just ordered it from the Troon Ayrshire FHS
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Hi Falkryn,
Good luck in the rest of your searching.
Scully
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Thanks, I'll keep an eye open for yours - who knows there might be a link.
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There are several Margaret Hendries and several Hugh Hendries but none together.
Correction to that - there is one set (Hendry) but they appear to be brother and sister living in Dalry with other siblings.
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Hi Falkryn,
I have a family that lived in Dalry. Its a Charles Hendrie(hendry) and Catherine Colquhoun, M,1858. they had these Children: Mary 1858/ John 1861/ Peter 1862/ Charle 1865/ James 1868/ Joseph 1871/ Jane 1874. Is it any of them.I have them in the 1861/1871/ 1881 Census in Dalry.
Scully
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Sorry no,
it's James 65, a customer (?) weaver :
Margaret 75 a winder :
William 60 a Cotton weaver
and Hugh age 55 a Pit labourer all living together at 47 Courthill Street Dalry.
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Hi Falkryn,
Thanks anyaway i will just have to trying.
Scully
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I also have Hendry/Hendrie... Catharine Hendry born Arran/Kilbride/Bute Scot 1820d/o Robert Hendry & Margaret Black.Catharine Married John Howie Any USE?
Glenda
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There are at least 3 Hendrie gravestones at Newton Green (one of which I am interested in Isabella McCreath Hall Hendrie) I visited the graveyard and tried to download the photos I took but had to abandon as you nearly got the whole camera most of which were nothing to do with inscriptions, will try and
retype when I have more time on my hands.
Cheers
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Hi Glenda and Seekthem,
Glenda none of yours seem to be related at the moment. But i don,t know if there are any siblings to James & Charles so i Will i have to keep digging. Seekthem I have the Newton Green Burial Ground book with 5 Hendries in, can check the book if you have any problems. Thank you both for your replys.
Scully
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Hi,
Great, saves me typing it all out again.
The three I have photos of are:
Alexander Hendrie and Sarah Paterson and children
James Hendrie and Annie Campbell
George Hendrie in memory of his mother Isabella McCreath Hall (my one)
I helped a colleague at work last year (her name is Hendrie thro marriage)
and they had been invited to France year before last for a memorial service
for a Hendrie who had died in France. The trail did take us back to Ayr, I'm sure Mair popped up somewhere,
I will try and check for you.
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Hi seekthem,
None of the Hendrie,s you mentioned are mine. But thanks for looking, It Would be great if some of these Hendries from Ayr were related along the line somewhere. Just have to keep trying.
Scully
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James Hendrie and Annie Campbell
Would it be possible to get a copy of this photograph as I believe he is my great (x2) uncle.
I would also be interested in any further information regarding the Hendrie & Mair Link mentioned as both names refer to direct ancestors (great [x4] grandparents)
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Hi Falkryn,
Its either taking forver to download picture or I'm downloading the whole lot.
Would it be easier to send to private e-mail. I'm obviously not very good
with computers.
Cheers
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Thank you, my private email can be found by clicking on the envelope under my falcon photograph.
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Have forwarded photo, hope it worked.
Cheers
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once again thank you ..... the photographs arrived.
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Hi RJ-Paton - I see that your are researching the Barr Family. I am also interested in this line. My Wife Janet ( nee Kerr ) has a Janet Barr born about 1818-1820 in Kilmarnock, this Janet Barr is my wife`s Great Grandmother, she married James Clachan on 23 July 1852 in Kilmarnock. I do not have any further information on Janet Barr prior to her marriage and would like to find her parents and possible siblings. I have a little more information on the Clachan side and a multitude on the Kersland & Auchengree Ker/Kerrs as James and Janet`s daughter Janet Clachan born 24 January, 1859 in Dreghorn married William Kerr of Beith. If you have an interest in this Janet Barr would you have any further information. I have very recently had contact with katrina42 of this site who is research an Isabel Hendrie born 1709 in Kilmarnock, she married Hugh Muir in 24 December 1730 in Kilmarnock, she died in 1747 , there were 7 children to the marriage. Katrina42 is also researching the Kilmarnock Barr line.
Lionel Benson
Australia
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"My" Barr lot came from Lanarkshire and appear to have stayed in Carluke and the adjoining area.
Thomas Barr (born circa 1690) married Jannet Gilkerson (my Great [x7] Grandparents)
their children - that I know of - were John , Janet, Thomas, James & Eupham.
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Hello Falkyrn - Sorry to be so long in reply. Thanks for your reply, it seems at this stage there is no connection, but one never knows in genealogy what further research comes up with, if find a possibility of any connection I will let you know.
Cheers
Lionel
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I am also interested in the name HENDRIE/HENDRY
My GGGrandmother was Elizabeth HENDRIE sometimes spelt HENDRY born Mearns about 1815 according to Census
Elizabeth married Forrester MUIR in 1836 in Mauchline
According to the Death registration it states her Father is ???HENDRIE Mother ????FLEMING.
she died in Mauchline in 1882
unfortunately that is all I have been able to find out about her..
any help appreciated
Jan.
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HI Jan,
My Hendries/Hendry/Henry start with Peter Hendry & Mary Monaghan/Madden
born about 1786 & 1793 in Ayr. Sorry i hav,nt come across any of the names you mentioned its a shame as i have a lot of information.
Scully
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Hi Scully
A cousin seems to think the Father of Elizabeth is John Young HENDRIE.... but we have no proof.. as the Deat Rego just states ????Hendrie..
1841 CENSUS I find a Mary HENDRY living around the corner from Elizabeth and Husband Forrester.. this Mary is age 70 Elizabeth on this census is age 25 same age as hubby...later census and death rego suggest she is born 1816.... Husband was born in 1912.. If Elizabeth is a younger child then perhaps Mary HENDRY is her MOther......
I'm not even sure the name FLEMMING on the death rego is correct as who ever was the informant gave ??? for Christian names of Both..
cheers
Jan
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Hi Jan,
The problem i have is i only have 2 children for Peter & Mary, I know for definate that they had James born about 1823 and i think they may of also had a son Charles about 1837. I can,t believe that there were no more children but up till now i have not come across any more siblings that tie in. I,m sure theres got to be more out there somewhere. Just have to keep trying.
Scully
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Hi Falkyrn, Seekthem, & List,
Just found this list and really not sure how to respond to individual messages. I have been searching Hendrie's from St. Quivox for about 15 years. Falkyrn mentions John Hendrie and Jane Dickie with 9 children, I have 11 listed for them. Don't have much on their daughters except full birth dates, but more on the boys, some up to present times.
For Seekthem, about Isabel McCreath Hall, they had 5 children, 2 of the boys ended up in Canada.
I do not have anything on Jane, daughter of John & Jane Dickie. If you could possibly help me with the girls, I would like to share any information that I have.
Thank you,
Glen
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Hi Falkyrn, Seekthem, & List,
Just found this list and really not sure how to respond to individual messages. I have been searching Hendrie's from St. Quivox for about 15 years. Falkyrn mentions John Hendrie and Jane Dickie with 9 children, I have 11 listed for them. Don't have much on their daughters except full birth dates, but more on the boys, some up to present times.
For Seekthem, about Isabel McCreath Hall, they had 5 children, 2 of the boys ended up in Canada.
I do not have anything on Jane, daughter of John & Jane Dickie. If you could possibly help me with the girls, I would like to share any information that I have.
Thank you,
Glen
Since that original post I too have added to the number of children and agree with your tally of 11 - I would be pleased to exchange information either by PM or I can be contacted by email by clicking on the email symbol under my falcon photograph. For security reasons Rootschat does not like email addresses to appear in open messages.
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Hi,
Just found this web-site and am not overly familiar about navigation and where to post so I'll try here for a start.
I am looking for a WILLIAM HENDRIE, collier, who fathered two children with MARY MATHIESON : WILLIAM (BRUCE) HENDRIE in 1850 and MARGARET HENDRIE in 1853 in Sornhill/Galston. Mary went on to marry ALEXANDER CRICHTON in 1860. The son WILLIAM HENDRIE was raised by his grandmother MARION BRUCE (formerly MARION MATHIESON/IRVINE) and he took her surname first as a middle name (1861) and then a surname (1871).
Apart from WILLIAM HENDRIE's occupation I have little to go on but have not been able to find any suitable William Hendries in 1851, 1861 or 1871 Censuses. I have tried the usual variations of HENRY, HENDRY.
One candidate is WILLIAM WYLLIE HENDRIE whose mother was a JANE BRUCE but this HENDRIE family from St. Quivox were farmers/nurserymen not coal-miners.
Another possibility is WILLIAM HENDRIE b c1829 in Saltcoats who was an agricultural labourer in 1851 and collier in 1861. He married SARAH DUNCAN in 1861 in Stevenston.
Any help with regard to William Hendrie (collier) would be welcome.
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Hi Shuggie B,
I do not have this William on my tree, have seen a couple of Bruce's listed before with connections to the Hendrie name in Ayr but they were farmers. Sorry I can't be of any help at this time.
Glen
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In the 1841 census there is a William Henry age 17 coal miner in Kilmaurs which is not that far from Galston. Long shot I know.
Liz
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Hi Liz
Thanks for that. I get back on the case.
Ian
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I have had a look at the Census Record which I had previously seen and ignored, probably because I didn't realise CM was an abbreviation for coal miner.
Thanks again Liz, I might have remained in ignorance forever.
What a pity the 1841 Census states his mother as 'Widow' Hendry - most unhelpful.
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You could search for the sister Mirrens death or marriage which would give parents name.
Liz
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Thanks Liz,
I'll do that, or maybe trace the Frances that's at the top of the next page and easily overlooked. I haven't found any Mirren Hendry's in the 1851 Ayrshire Census so I'll look further afield. The next entry in the 1841 Census is for anotther Hendry grouping with a father whose name I can't make out - and yet another Mirren. I'd never heard this name before.
Ian
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With regard to my search for a William Hendrie/Hendry/Henry who fathered two children with Mary Mathieson, William (abt 1850) and Margaret (1853), it now looks suspiciously like William Hendry (b Riccarton, 1809; d 1879, Kilmarnock).
He was married to Mary Ann Smith from Ireland (m 1834). They had no children and Mary died after the 1851 Census but before 1855.
William then married Mary Drysdale (again from Ireland) in 1858. They had four children, Mary Hendry (1863), William Hendry (1867), Jeanie Hendry (1870) and John Hendry (1876).
I believe on the basis of location and occupation, but cannot prove, that William Hendry had a relationship with Mary Mathieson between his two marriages.
If anyone has any knowledge of this William Hendry I would be delighted to hear from them.
There is information on the internet regarding the parentage of William Bruce Hendrie (b 1850) which give the father as William Wyllie Hendrie. I believe this to be wrong.
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Hi Falkyrn, Seekthem, & List,
Just found this list and really not sure how to respond to individual messages. I have been searching Hendrie's from St. Quivox for about 15 years. Falkyrn mentions John Hendrie and Jane Dickie with 9 children, I have 11 listed for them. Don't have much on their daughters except full birth dates, but more on the boys, some up to present times.
For Seekthem, about Isabel McCreath Hall, they had 5 children, 2 of the boys ended up in Canada.
Above message copy and pasted from oowillie44
Hi oorwillie44 - do you have any further information on Isabel McCreath Hall re Canada.
The reason I ask is the Watsons and Halls Peebles St Newton on Ayr St Quivox had quite a few marriages. A lot of Watsons emigrated to Saskatchewan late 1800s and early 1900s.
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Hi,
Not really sure who this message is from but if you read my answer again it says Isabel McCreath Hall had 5 children, 2 of the boys ended up in Canada.
Isabel died in Newton-on-Ayr in 1914 and she never went to Canada. I was never following the Watson's or Hall's just basically the Hendrie's where Isabel married into. Have info on all 5 of her children if you are interested.
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Glen
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Hi thanks for your quick answer - would be pleased if your could forward the details of Isabels boys and the Canada information which would be very kind of you.
Liz
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Hi Liz,
Charles Hall Hendrie, born Dec 9, 1985, Newton-on-Ayr, died Oct 30, 1930, Vancouver, Canada.
George Stewart Burns Hendrie, born June 16, 1890, Newton-on-Ayr, died March 26, 1950 in Ayr, Scotland. Married Margaret Doctor Oct 22, 1915 in Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland. Margaret was born June 14, 1890 in Maternity Hospital, Glasgow and died September 8, 1974 at 2 Whiteside Road, Prestwick. This George went to Halifax, Canada on May 23, 1912 to visit with brother, was still there in 1914. Not sure when he returned to Scotland.
They had a son, George Stewart Hendrie born 1918 in Ayr and died in 2009 in Ayr.
Glen