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Can anyone help me find out a bit more about this family.
David Jones married Elizabeth Stokes 31st Dec 1792 Cleobury Mortimer.
As far as I know they had two children
William b.1793 C.M.
Jane b. 1795 C. M.
Jane was my GG Grandmother so I know she went on to marry William Russell.
I'd like to find out more about the family in Cleobury Mortimer. If David and Elizabeth had anymore children.
Who were David and Elizabeth's parents.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
June
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Hi,
my family were also from Cleobury mortimer and while searching today,I could not believe it,I was able to print off a whole register of none conformists births,17 pages for free,you should find it under,"Shropshire None Conformist Registers" but i have a couple of answers for you,
1) James son of David Jones and Elizabeth Stokes,born 2nd feb 1806
2) Elizabeth Stokes born 26 May 1774.parents William and Esther Stokes it says of "Hongar(?Hungary)Hill" in the parish of Cleobury Mortimer.
Joyce341
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Hi Joyce341
Thankyou for the info. It's fantastic. I went onto that site but I can't seem to find the list of names.
I've got the list of towns and the different churches but nothing happens when I click on them.
What am I doing wrong.
June
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Hi,
put in Elizabeth Stokes Jones Cleobury Mortimer in search engine,and then go,you will see shropshire none.conformist registers,there is also a lucy born 1810.
i found it by chance,put in James Hickman 1812 cleobury mortimer and the records come up,it would,nt let me save it,so i printed and to my surprise 17 pages of records came up.
if you still cant find it let me know,also noticed a martha stokes,possibly elizabeths sister.
joyce341
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http://www.shropshire-online.info/nonconformist/mamleg-hall.pdf
this is the url, mamleg hall is the name used for mawley hall cleobury mortimer,st mary,s rc church was connected to it,my grandparents worked for the hall.
joyce 341
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Hi,
How Strange is this,my GGgrandfathers brother,Henry Hickman,born in 1819,his godparents were William Jones and Jane Jones,LOL and the reverant was also a Jones.
joyce 341
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Hi Joyce341
What a great find that is. All so clear and free too. I won't get anything done today.
Thankyou so much for letting me know.
June
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Hi Joyce341
I found that David and Elizabeth had about ten children all together. They didn't hang about in those days did they.
It's fascinating looking through the pages at the same names coming up. it seems they all stood as godparents for each other.
What was Mamleg Hall? Were they catholics? I can't find anything out about it.
June
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Mamleg Hall,
is Mawley hall,it is still there in Shropshire,was owned by the Blount Family,St Mary.s was their church,later name changed to St elizabeths Church,I would love to vist it,it is opened during the year,I think from April to September or July,visits are by appointment only.
Have you looked on IGI family search.
if you go to search engine you can find info on the Blounts.also on Mawley Hall,In IGI it has all my family as Mamleg Hall.
Joyce341
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Sorry i forgot,yes they were all catholics (none conformists)one of the Blounts apparently was put in the tower of London for refuseing to make armour for croimwell,dont know how true this is.they seem to have had a large forge,my family from Richard down were connected to blacksmiths for quite a while.
Joyce 341.
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Oh Joyce, thanks for that link!! :D :D :D
My ggggdad was christened at Mawley Hall too, I just looked it up and it shows the names of his godparents!! Whoohoo! 8) 8)
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So they got baptised in St. Mary's church. But it was connected to Mawley Hall.
I noticed that you have Parkes as one of your Surnames. I have Joseph and Sarah Parkes as witnesses at Lucy Jones and Thomas Russells marriage.
Is this one of your Parkes?
Lucy Jones was my GG Grandmothers Janes' sister and she married Thomas Russell who I think was related to William Russell, my Gg Grandfather.
Sarah Parkes was Sarah Russell.
I bet you are confused now.
June
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hi june,
my Parkes did,nt come untill 1870,s as far as i know,my grandmother Phoebe parkes married,William hickman in 1871,she was from netherton,Dudley although there could be a link as to how they met,Williams Dad was james born Cleobury Mortimer.
Joyce
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Hi
All below are from the Cleobury registers
09 Apr 1607 Johan, w. of Lewis Jones, decessed bur.
07 Nov 1607 William, s. of Lewes Jones bap.
05 Apr 1608 Lewis Jones bur.
10 Jul 1615 Willim, s. of Richard Jones bap.
[?] Mar 1622 Thoms, s. of Richard & Mary Jones, carp. bap.
Thoms, s. of Richard Jones, carpenter bur.
27 Feb 1627 Edward Jones, of Dudnill bur.
Edward Jones, of Dudnill, husbandman bur.
[?] Nov 1631 ffraunce, d. of Margaret Jones, a poor wand woman bap. & bur.
[?] Apr 1632 ..., s. of Richard & Margery Jones, Carpenter bur.
25 Apr 1665 Evan Hughes & Ann Jones.
Jul 1673 Thomas Jones & Elizabeth Wyer.
16 Jun 1674 Peter Jones & Margarett Farmer.
19 Apr 1683 Peter Jones & Mary Harvie.
01 May 1688 John Jones & Sarah Bird.
02 Jul 1695 John Crump & Margarett Jones.
22 Mar 1663 Margarett, d. of Richard Jones.
17 Sep 1671 Joyce, d. of Thomas & Joyce Jones.
24 Oct 1682 Sarah, d. of John & Catherin Jones.
17 Feb 1683 John, s. of Peter & Mary Jones.
10 Jul 1687 Mary, d. of Robert & Mary Jones, gent.
05 Nov 1687 Thomas, s. of Peter & Mary Jones.
28 Feb 1691 Sarah, d. of John & Sarah Jones.
15 Apr 1697 John, s. of John & Sarah Jones.
17 Aug 1651 Richard Jones, of C.M., carpenter.
28 Jan 1652 Margery Jones, wid.
22 Mar 1663 Margarett, w. of Richard Jones.
18 Mar 1672 Joyce, w. of Thomas Jones.
26 May 1675 Thomas Jones.
09 Sep 1681 David Jones.
26 Apr 1685 John, s. of Peter Jones.
03 Jun 1691 Audorye Jones, wid.
14 Nov 1695 Hugh Jones, servant to Samuel Baldwin.
10 Jul 1699 Mary, w. of Peter Jones.
05 Feb 1715 John Jones & Mary Jones.
05 Feb 1715 John Jones & Mary Jones.
11 Apr 1725 William Jones, a sojourner, & Sarah Bird.
11 Jul 1725 Richard Reighnolde, of Stodeston, & Sarah Jones.
30 Sep 1727 Thomas Harris & Anne Jones.
12 Apr 1733 Thomas Hulet & Margaret Jones.
25 Aug 1734 John Perton & Mary Jones.
01 May 1747 Richard Wise, of Kinlet, & Hana Jones.
21 Feb 1747 John Jones, of Bayton & Mary Short.
25 Dec 1749 Edward Garbet, of Stottesdon, & Susana Jones.
08 Jan 1753 Tho. Tyler & Eliz. Jones.
29 Jul 1753 Edward Jones, of Lindridge, & Eliz. Hammonds, of Neen Solers, lic.
10 Dec 1753 George Corfield & Eleanor Jones, of Stoddesdon, lic.
16 Oct 1716 Richard, s. of John & Mary Jones.
04 Aug 1719 Mary, d. of John & Mary Jones, senr.
12 Mar 1721 Sara, d. of Tho. & Sara Jones. [Inserted.]
25 Nov 1722 Thomas, s. of John & Mary Jones.
12 Sep 1723 Anne, d. of Tho. & Sarah Jones. [Inserted.]
08 Nov 1725 John, s. of John & Mary Jones.
12 Aug 1727 Margeret, d. of Wm. & Sarah Jones, & bur. 25 Feb 1727.
24 Oct 1727 Sarah, d. of Tho. & Sarah Jones. [Inserted.]
Mr Wm Toldervey, Wm Harris for Mr Jones' Estate. Church Wardens.
07 Oct 1729 John, s. of Will. & Margt Jones.
12 May 1733 Margaret, d. of Tho. & Sarah Jones. [Inserted.]
30 Dec 1753 Eleanor, d. of Edward & Susana Jones.
15 Apr 1707 Mary, w. of John Jones.
15 Oct 1707 Elizabeth Jones, of ye hill, wid.
14 Jun 1713 Peter Jones, a pauper.
01 Apr 1724 Sarah, d. of Tho. & Sarah Jones.
23 Nov 1737 Frances Jones, a wandering child.
05 Nov 1739 John Jones, a poor old man.
26 Jun 1741 Sarah Jones.
22 Jul 1741 Esther, d. of Thomas Jones.
22 Apr 1750 Thomas Jones.
08 Mar 1753 John Jones, of Bitterly.
05 Nov 1754 James, s. of John & Britihana Jones.
03 Dec 1754 Thomas, s. of Tho. & Anne Jones.
18 Nov 1757 Sarah, d. of John & Brilihana Jones.
31 Mar 1758 Susanna, d. of Tho. & Ann Jones.
18 Dec 1760 Ann, d. of Tho. & Ann Jones.
03 May 1761 John, s. of Edw. & Sarah Jones.
29 Jan 1764 Coela, d. of Robert & Coela Jones ap Oliver.
13 Dec 1778 Thomas, s. of Saml & Winefred Jones.
28 Feb 1780 Susanna, d. of John and Eliz. Jones, priy by Mr Evans.
06 Jan 1782 Sarah, d. of Heny & Caths Jones.
05 Sep 1784 James, s. of Henry & Cath. Jones, pauper.
21 Oct 1784 Anne, d. of Tho. & Anne Jones, priy., Surgeon.
18 Mar 1785 Edward, s. of Rich. & Margt Jones.
26 Mar 1786 Mary, d. of David & Mary Jones, priy.
22 Nov 1786 William, s. of Thomas & Sarah Jones.
11 Jan 1787 Thomas, s. of John & Drusilla Jones.
29 Sep 1787 John, s. of David & Mary Jones.
20 Jul 1788 Sarah, d. of John & Eliz. Jones.
20 Oct 1789 Will., s. of David & Mary Jones.
17 Oct 1790 John, s. of John & Drusilla Jones.
Jan 1792 Mary, d. of Tho. & Eliz. Jones.
12 Nov 1793 Will., s. of David & Eliz. Jones, priy.
30 Jan 1795 Mary Anne, d. of John & Martha Jones.
Apr 1795 John, s. of Benn & Anne Jones.
Aug 1795 Mary, d. of Mr John & Drusilla Jones, being upwards of 6 months old, and
have been priy bapd in February.
27 Nov 1795 Jane, d. of David & Eliz. Jones.
Jun 1798 Sarah, d. of Mr John & Drusilla Jones.
23 Aug 1801 William, s. of John & Drusilla Jones.
26 Feb 1802 James, s. of John & Mary Jones, private.
28 Feb 1802 Ann, d. of Willm & Elizth Jones.
20 May 1804 Mary Ann, d. of Elizabeth Jones, base born.
Dec 1798 Infant of David Jones, in the forest.
31 Dec 1792 David Jones & Elizabeth Stokes
Could not find a birth for David Jones
Regars Oly
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Thanks for that oly.
What a lot of Jones. David Jones must have been born elsewhere which is a pity.
I wonder what it meant (infant of David Jones in the forest).
Also after Williams birth in 1793 it says prly. Do you know what that means?
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Hello Bonnie
The infant of David Jones in the forest is a death
Williams baptism was done privately.
Lots of Jones in the Shropshire records, including the Rev David Jones
12 Jan 1761 David Jones, p. of Stokesay, and Mary Pinches, p. of H. C.
12 May 1788 David Jones, of Churchstoke, and Mary Morris Mar. (More Parish)
26 Dec 1621 Margareta, f. David Jones bap.
28 Feb 1643 John, s. of David Jones & Ester, at Ludlow towns end bap.
12 Oct 1645 Thomas, s. of David Jones & Hester, of Corve Bridge bap.
Alberbury
John Drakewood, of this p., and Sarah Olivers, of this p., were married in this Church by
Banns this 22 Feb 1767 , by me, David Jones, Curate.
28 Nov 1772 David Jones & Ann Williams. Wit.--Griffith Pugh & William Clemson.
I dont envy you researching your Jones ancestors
Regards Oly
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Hello,
I've just come upon this site and it seems someone may be able to help me with my Cleobury Jones.
I have Thomas Jones b 1778, Cleobury son of Samuel Jones and Winefred King.
I need further info regarding this Samuel Jones,
Many thanks
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Hi nthack
I couldn't find a birth of Thomas Jones On the Mawley Hall registers but there is a Samuel Jones who acted as godfather twice in 1780.
First to Joseph Brown, son of Peter and Mary Brown of Broomfield.
Second to Theresa Overton daughter of Edward and Winefred Overton of Burrington.
The godmothers were Ann Evans and Hannah Priest.
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Thank you Bonnie for a quick reply.
Thomas's birth is in the Cleobury register for 1778. I'm not sure whether Samuel was from Cleobury or not, but his birth would be about 1750. There are several on IG in Shropshire.
Thanks anyway
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Hi
A few more to puzzle over
Mr. Samuel Jones, Curate of Westbury 1724
13 Feb 1715 Samuel Jones, of p. Coldweston, & Mary Turner, of Didlebury mar.
26 Aug 1711 Samuel, s. of Samuel Jones & Margreat bap.
26 Feb 1726 Samuel, s. of Samuel Jones & Eleanor bap. Westbury
04 Nov 1753 Thomas & Samuel, sons of Samuel Jones & Elizabeth. Westbury baptism
09 Jun 1778 Samuel Jones & Winefred King, in ye year 1777. Cleobury
13 Dec 1778 Thomas, s. of Saml & Winefred Jones. Cleobury baptism
No further children to Samuel and Winefred in the registers
Regards Oly
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Hi Oly
is there a marriage for William Jones on the Shropshire registers.
He was born 1792 Cleobury so I guess about 1812 onwards.
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Hello Bonnie65
Who are the other 64??
The Parish Registers of Shropshire that I have are mainly 1500ish up to 1812.
I am not familiar with Shropshire being a Yorky but some of my ancestors strayed out of the Kingdom of Yorkshire.
Over a hundred William Jones in Shropshire in the years my records cover. Good job I have a good search engine. I copy and paste from the indexes but have to add the place in some instances, e.g. "In Alberbury"
Good luck I think you need it.
13 May 1806 William Jones, of Leebotwood, and Elizabeth Higs.
18 May 1810 William Jones, of Buttington, & Margret Hodgkis. Wit.--William Passon
& John Rogers.
30 Sep 1811 William Jones & Elizth Teece, lic. Wit.--John Jones & John Rogers. In Alberbury
31 Dec 1811 William Jones & Elizabeth Ford. Wit: Mary Jones & John Griffiths. In Westbury
30 Mar 1809 William Jones & Mary Pumford. Wit: Francis Jones, Elizabeth Jones.. In Burford
02 Jul 1827 William Jones, of Cleoby. Mortr., & Elizth. Walker. By Spencer D. Wilde, Curate. In Kinlet
14 Sep 1820 William Jones & Ann Roberts. By Thomas Dixon, Curate of Wistanstow. Wit: John Espe, Anne Espe. In Kinlet
Regards Oly
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Thanks for all your work Oly.
Why couldn't I have some unusual names to search!