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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: Christina08 on Friday 06 June 08 14:22 BST (UK)
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Im stuck, lost and becoming rapidly disheartened....
I would appreciate any help or infomation about;
John McNab m Janet Clark at Killin church Nov 30 1800. They had 9 children, Helen, Betty, Margaret, Alexander, John, Janet, William, Ann and her twin Isabella. All Christened in either Forteviot or Tibbermore, Perthshire.
William married Isabella Sinclair, moved to Dundee, had a family and immigrated to Australia in 1852 aboard the 'Flora'. I have a solid history of this and the subsequent McNab's in Australia but not about what became of the other siblings and parents - John & Janet.
Looking forward to any assistance...
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I have just returned from this neck of the woods, and found that it is the heartland of the McNabs. They even have a McNab clan cemetery in Killin!
Try to expand your search area, however, as many familys have dispersed from the area from the early to mid 1800's, my Morrison family included.
Good luck with the search.
Gail
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Hello Christina,
I have McNabs who married into my Collier kin in Perthshire in the 1800s -
none meantime obviously linked to your kin. But you never can tell :-)
Just clarifying the picture ... please correct me if you see errors in my searching.
Banns Called/Marriage at one venue.
WILLIAM MCNAB
Spouse: ISABELLA SINCLAIR Family
Marriage: 26 NOV 1835 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
WILLIAM MACNAB
Spouse: ISABELLA SINCLAIR
Marriage: 26 NOV 1835 Perth, Perth, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
Children:
JANET GELLATLY MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 30 SEP 1836 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
WILLIAM SINCLAIR MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 19 MAY 1838 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Twin JOHN MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 17 FEB 1840 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Twin ALEXANDER MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 17 FEB 1840 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
FRANCIS MCNABB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 22 JUL 1842 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
ROBINA IRVINE MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 MAR 1844 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
ISABELLA MCNABB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 MAY 1846 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
SINCLAIR MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 13 MAR 1849 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
LEWIS MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 22 NOV 1851 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
THEN EMIGRATION OF SURVIVING FAMILY TO AUSTRALIA IN 1852
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Ordering the children's birth/christening dates
FROM JOHN MCNAB/JANET CLARK's MARRIAGE IN 1800
and thus trying to get a fix on future NAMING PATTERNS from
possible' fruitful' marriages of any of William's siblings.
per,
JOHN and JANET ... and Isabell Sinclair's parents' forenames
probably WILLIAM and JANET
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John McNab m. Janet Clark at Killin Church on Nov 30 1800.
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HELEN MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 SEP 1799 Forteviot, Perth, Scotland
BETTY MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 JUL 1801 Errol, Perth, Scotland
MARGARET MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 28 APR 1803 Tibbermore, Perth, Scotland
ALEXANDER MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 FEB 1805 Tibbermore, Perth, Scotland
JOHN MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 21 APR 1806 Tibbermore, Perth, Scotland
JANET MACNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 MAR 1808 Perth, Perth, Scotland
WILLIAM MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 NOV 1812 Forteviot, Perth, Scotland
ISOBELLA MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 22 AUG 1815 Forteviot, Perth, Scotland
ANNE MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 22 AUG 1815 Forteviot, Perth, Scotland
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POSSIBLE PREVIOUS GENERATION BIRTHS OF John McNab & Janet Clark
to further contextualise the future siblings' search.
e.g.
JOHN MCNAB
Christening: 08 MAR 1776 Killin, Perth, Scotland
Father: ALEXR. MCNAB
Mother: JANET CLARK
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
Then,
This is interesting ... a Clark mother Isabell McNaughtan
and another 10 years later an Anne McNaughtan ... the later McNab twins' forenames
JANET CLARK
Christening: 07 DEC 1773 Killin, Perth, Scotland
Father: JOHN CLARK
Mother: ISABELL MCNAUGHTAN
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
JANET CLARK
Christening: 14 FEB 1783 Killin, Perth, Scotland
Father: JOHN CLARK
Mother: ANNE MCNAUGHTAN
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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Till later, perhaps if you wish,
Aye
John [DDJJAKE]
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John,
I am so thrilled to receive your email. Thanks so much for taking the time... yes its all correct. You have done well. I'm just so stuck, not sure of where next ? Too many McNabs and too any Johns , Williams etc
I have all McNab info from the time they arrived in Australia - that was the easy bit. Not sure if others left Scotland for Canada etc at the same time as William & Isabella but I cant find the rest of them anywhere... John & Janet and the rest of their kids. There is a John McNab born forteviot 1765 - that I thought may be my John Snr. It looks likes he is the son of William McNab and possibly Elspeth Donaldson. (again speculation and hope?)
I was hoping some long lost relative with all the answers would email me - my hope is fading.
Really great to get a response, any idea's greatly appreciated - Thanks!!!!
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Hi Christina,
A little progress ... perhaps ....
Children of a 'possible match' for Alexander McNab (b. 1805)
JOHN MCNAB
Birth: 18 MAY 1829 Alyth, Perth, Scotland
Father: ALEX. MCNAB
Mother: EMELIA CARGIL
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
WILLIAM MCNAB
Birth: 14 JAN 1832 Alyth, Perth, Scotland
Father: ALEXANDER MCNAB
Mother: AMILIA CARGILL
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
JANET MCNAB
Birth: 27 JUL 1833 Alyth, Perth, Scotland
Father: ALEXANDER MCNAB
Mother: AMELIA CARGILL
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
BANNS:
ALEXR MCNAB
Spouse: EMELIA CARGIL
Marriage: 20 JUL 1828 Alyth, Perth, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
ALEXANDER MCNAB
Spouse: AMELIA CARGILL Family
Marriage: 19 JUL 1828 Glenisla, Angus, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
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Comparison:
ALEXANDER MCNAB - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 FEB 1805 Tibbermore, Perth, Scotland
and,
Probable ..... AMILIA CARGILL
Birth: 10 AUG 1807
Christening: 20 AUG 1807 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
Father: WILLIAM CARGILL
Mother: MARY CHRISTIE
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
Cheers,
DDJ
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Hi Christina,
I cannot find Amelia, Alexander or their 3 children in 1851 Census Scotland ... nor any of them in the 1881 Census .... do you think [if they indeed are your McNabs) that they may also have emigrated .... to Canada ... like William and Isabella et al ??
Immigrant Ships may have the answer ?
Aye
John
DDJ
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John,
The info on Alexander is amazing!!! The names of his children would dictate at this time that he is indeed my Alexander. I cant thank you enough!
Im stunned! You have been incredibly generous with your time - Thank you!
I will start on immigration info asap.
I have been stuck for so long - Thank you so very much!
Christina
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Hello Christina,
My Great X3 Grandfather Robert McNab was born in 1811 in Forteviot. His father's name was John, but I have no record of his mother's name etc. Don't know if there is any connection with your McNabs.
Dave.
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Christina,
I should have said that Robert was born in 1811 not 1911 as earlier stated.
Dave.
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Dave, thanks for your contact - sorry its taken me so long to reply, Ive been away.
It is likely that we have a family connection - just not sure how at this time. Forteviot isnt huge and there were lots of us there. Robert isnt a name that is in my family line - we have lots of Williams, Johns, Janets & Isabella's. Keep in touch...
Regards
Christina
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Christina, thank you for the response. Robert named his children : William John, Margaret and James.
I will continue search for further info.
Dave.