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Title: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 03 June 08 18:06 BST (UK)
Hi everyone ! I am trying to find maria tittlebee /tuttlebee ,she married james luck in 1809 at cobham, she lived most of her married life in northfleet but I cant find her baptism any where  she was born about 1785 give or take a few years, I have all the census records on her but I need help finding her baptism!  any help would be great! thankyou.
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: bearkat on Tuesday 03 June 08 18:32 BST (UK)
Where do the census say Maria was born?
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 03 June 08 18:43 BST (UK)
Well one says just kent and the other says northfleet  regards denise
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: bearkat on Tuesday 03 June 08 18:54 BST (UK)
The images of the Northfleet parish records (St. Botolph's ) are online. :D

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03k9/

They are not indexed so can take time to search through.
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 03 June 08 19:04 BST (UK)
Thankyou so much for sharing your information ! regards denise
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: rosherville on Tuesday 30 June 09 09:45 BST (UK)
Hi,

Just came across your posts.

James and Maria are my Gt. gt. gt. grandparents.

What`s your interest ?
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 30 June 09 12:45 BST (UK)
hi ! they are my gtgtgt grandparents too ! many regards jasper2
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: rosherville on Tuesday 30 June 09 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi,

I know James died around 1840, Maria several years later.  She obviously had a tough time, being in and out of the workhouse.

I come from the line from through their daughter Sarah born c 1820, life was no picnic for her either.

I`m interested in finding where Maria was born.  There is no record of any surname Tittlebee but the few Tuttlebees seem to have originated in north Essex as far as I can tell.

I believe James was born around 1782 in Cobham from James and Mary Luck.

Any info you have would be appreciated. Have attached a photo of Maria`s grand daughter, Charlotte born c1840.

Regards
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 30 June 09 15:17 BST (UK)
hi again ! right firstly I have also looked at the baptism , but on closer studies it reveals ruck not luck !
they were both married in cobham and one son (john ) was baptised john tattleby
 I descend from their son george , then his son henry james then his son edward william who in turn had my, nan  in 1909.  I have photos of henry james if you would loike one !
many regards jasper2 ps
I was born in gravesend but now live in shropshire.
thanks for the photo again !
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: rosherville on Tuesday 30 June 09 18:28 BST (UK)
Hi,

Could not find any other Rucks so could be Luck badly written!

Tittle, Tattle or Tuttle ?  I`d go for Tuttleby as the most likely, it would have been written down by the vicar as he heard it, many surname spellings changed that way.

I`ve got the following as some of the children, maybe more.

Harriett    1811
James 1816
John  1819
Sarah Maria 1821
Thomas 1823
George  1825
Maria  1827
Elizabeth Ann  1830
Henry  1833

I`ve attached an 1892 cutting of a Northfleet Luck, sad.

Yes, I`d like to see photo of Henry James.

Is Anna still in the Northfleet area ?

Regards
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 30 June 09 18:44 BST (UK)
nan is in a nursing home in northfleet
kids for maria and james

maria , henry , william , harriet ,mary, james . john tattleby, sarah maria , thomas and george . I am having problems attaching the picture ! give me a moment and I will try again ! jasper2! x
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 30 June 09 18:55 BST (UK)
pic still not wanting to play !
however the cutting you sent is of james and maria,s grandson !
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 30 June 09 19:47 BST (UK)
sorry should have been more clear !
the newspaper cutting is for john luck and his wife alice clara church ! he is the son of john tattleby luck and sarah love (grandson of maria and james ! )I have my tree on ancestry ? can you access it ? regards jasper2 !
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: rosherville on Tuesday 30 June 09 21:08 BST (UK)
Hi,

Yes accessed Ancestry, there are several relating to Maria but they are contradictory, her birth on some is 1799, and James has different parents, confusing.

What name is your tree under ?

Regards

ps. try pic at lower resolution
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Tuesday 30 June 09 21:16 BST (UK)
my heritage
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: rosherville on Wednesday 01 July 09 10:10 BST (UK)
Hi,

Havn`t found yours yet, but several others with Maria in.

They give birth as late 1780s in Northfleet but I think this is assuming she was born there and subtracting 73 from 1861, no evidence as such.

Back to the name, I`ve scanned the names in the 19c and there are no Tittlebess, 2 Tattlebees (N. Essex) and a few dozen Tuttlebees (N. Essex).  This all points to her being Tuttlebee,  I`ll follow this up further.

I`ve seen James as being born in Cobham, Northfleet and Swanscombe, again needs checking.

Any luck with pic yet ?  We`re not allowed to give contact details on this site but I`ll try another way then you could send a jpg. direct.

Regards
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Wednesday 01 July 09 10:23 BST (UK)
hello again ! im rubbish at this picture downloading marlacky ! but if you can find the tree (my heritage ) its private but see if you can get to view it by sending me a thingy ! must admit sarah maria ? mmm only have a marriage for her (I think ) st botolphs northfleet to a william anson ? regards jasper 2
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 01 July 09 10:34 BST (UK)
Quote from: rosherville on Wednesday 01 July 09 10:10 BST (UK)

 We`re not allowed to give contact details on this site


By clicking on your lighted scrolls for a PM (private message) you can give your email addresses that way.

Sorry for butting in, but the title grabbed my attention - from the Sound of Music. ;D

Cheers
KHP :)

Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: jasper2 on Wednesday 01 July 09 10:41 BST (UK)
fanks!!! yep its cute innit ? how do you solve a problem ! makes you wanna sing ! lol ! jasper x
Title: Re: how do you solve a problem like maria ?
Post by: rosherville on Tuesday 27 July 10 17:54 BST (UK)

Hi

Sorry to trouble you but my computer crashed and I`ve lost your pic of Henry James.

Could you resend ?

Thanks