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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: jayeg on Saturday 31 May 08 23:46 BST (UK)
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Can anyone tell me if there is a site on scottish births that is cheaper than scotlands people? I just find it incredibably expensive!!
Many Thanks
Jayne :)
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Nope, just the one.
Pauline
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The IGI has births upto circa 1875 but not all are online.
SP is pretty cheap compared with £7 for an Eng & Wales Certificate. Also, have you looked at the thread on optimising searches on the top of the Scotland General Board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,43916.0.html
Many of the major Record Offices in Scotland (Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen that I am aware of) do have an online search facility that you can use at a daily rate.
Gadget
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Hi Jayne
Scottish births and marriages for the period 1855-1875 have been transcribed by the IGI direct from the Registers and include I belief all births and marriages for the period.
Andy
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What I find really helpful is checking the IGI extracted records first and then, using the date and place, finding the original certificate on Scotlands People. Saves money on wasted searches and you can be pretty sure you've got the right people. Also, sometimes, you get little gems of information that you didn't expect from the certificates.
Ruby
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Andy, are you sure about Scottish births and marriages up to 1875 being transcribed on IGI?
I can't find any of mine!
Sorry, just can't find my grandfather b. 14th Jan 1875. He was Robert Henry Kane, b. Glasgow.
Kooky
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The IGI has births up to circa 1875 but not all are online*.
Gadget
Who and what areas are you looking for Kooky?
Gadget
* In my various searches, I've found quite a few that are missing.
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Hi Kooky
Andy, are you sure about Scottish births and marriages up to 1875 being transcribed on IGI?
I can't find any of mine!
Kooky
I'm referring to the period from 1855 when civil registration commenced until 1875. My understanding is that all have been transcribed and certainly I have found all I have looked for. The major advantage over pre 1855 transcriptions is that its from the civil register and not the parish records.
Andy
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Click Here for the records that are available on the online IGI for Lanarkshire (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyLanark.htm#PageTitle)
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Hi Jayne
Like Gadget and the others, I use the IGI first - it has the advantage of not requiring an exact name match, and it is free, but if I can't find the information on the IGI I head for ScotlandsPeople.
SP is by far the best genealogy site for any useful BDM information, but you do need to practise the search routines so as not to waste credits. You can search as many times as you like without paying - until you decide to view the results. I wasted credits learning how to search properly and now make sure I get a page full of useful results for each search, not just one line :D
The civil searching on the IGI has the advantage over SP in that parent names are on the birth records. It has the disadvantage that there are very few death records on the IGI.
A certificate costs £1.20 - definitely the cheapest I have ever found - consequently I have more certificates from Scotland than Australia & not many of my folks were in Scotland post 1855 ::) ::)
If you can't find the folks you are searching for - post some messages, I'm sure you will get much help at RootsChat
Trish
Edit: You probably need to advise if you are looking pre or post civil registration - I find both types of searches quite different. The church records on SP are mainly church of Scotland records. If you folks belonged to other churches you may have difficulty finding any records in Scotland pre 1855
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Thanks very much everyone, have looked on the igi this morning and can't find what i'm looking for, James Baillie b 1856 birth cert, father James Baillie mother Sarah Baille nee Gibb also cant find parents marriage cert but on the census it says they're both from Ireland!! Any ideas where i go from here?
Jayne ;)
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I see from the 1861 census that he was 4 and b. Airdire. Could this one be him:
1857 James Baillie, Airdire 651/01 Page 21
Sister Sarah:
1859 651/01 Page 279
Gadget :)
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The following is on the IGI
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
JAMES BAILLIE
Birth: 03 JAN 1857 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father: JAMES BAILLIE
Mother: SARAH GIBB
Brother David is there as well! born 1855 - buy that certificate could be very useful
Trish
Edit: Hi Gadget
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I was just going to say that Trish - Airdire or New Monkland - unfortunately the IGI only classes it as New Monkland ;D
Gadget
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I see that their eldest child on the 1861, Ann, was b. circa 1851, Airdire/New Monkland but, given their ages, they might have older children. Have you checked the 1851 to possibly identify a date when they came over?
Gadget :)
Added - a child, Fanny, aged 2 on the 1851 also b. Airdrie
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Gadget and Trish have beaten me to it but there are also other children listed in IGI- children of James Baillie and Sarah Gibb: Fanny (1847), Ann (chr.1851), David (1855), James (1857), Sarah (1859) & twin Adam (1859).
Found all the above in one step by doing a parent search.
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I was just going to say that Trish - Airdire or New Monkland - unfortunately the IGI only classes it as New Monkland ;D
Gadget
it was a snap posting - ;D ;D
Jayne
You can do a parent search on the IGI - From my link above - put James Baillie in the "father" Sarah Gibb in the "mother" - the date e.g. 1860 +/- 10 years and the location and you will get - as well as James and David, Sarah and Adam, who seem to be twins. These are ALL extracted records.
There is also a submitted record for a pre civil birth for Ann
Trish
Edit: sorry aghadowey - you posted while I was typing - I thought Jayne may not know how to do a parent search. I didn't go back far enough to get Fanny - I wonder about submitted records - I would prefer to look for them on SP - perhaps some were born in Ireland?
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:D
we're going great guns - have modified my message to include Fanny on the 1851 !
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Woops - cancel that born ireland for Fanny.
The 1855 certificate would be great - should give ALL the previous children and when and where married - we have that on many of our certificates in Oz, shame the Scots gave it away
Trish
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God Bless the IGI
They married 15 March 1841, Donegore, Antrim - a submitted entry though
Gadget
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Unfortunately 1841 is too early for civil registration of marriages in Ireland (1864 for Catholic marriages and 1845 for other marriages).
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I think a birth cert is needed to confirm then :-\