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Title: Dates for photos please
Post by: capmelton on Saturday 31 May 08 19:58 BST (UK)
Can anyone date these photos for me please?
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: forthefamily on Saturday 31 May 08 20:08 BST (UK)
Just curious....regarding the second picture...do you know what the event was...both ladies are wearing the same dress.........Twins?

mab
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: capmelton on Saturday 31 May 08 20:22 BST (UK)
The woman on the right was born in 1858 and the other 1867 so they are definately not twins. As far as I know it is a family portrait.
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: capmelton on Saturday 31 May 08 20:26 BST (UK)
OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!
I mixed up my left and right, silly me
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: forthefamily on Saturday 31 May 08 20:37 BST (UK)
I'd guess that the dresses are mid to late 1870's to the early to mid 1880's. That slimmer silhouette and tight basque (jacket) was evident at that time. In fact I'm looking at an illustration from 1883 that is almost the identical dress. Without seeing the back...bustle/draping it's hard to say exactly.

Because they are both wearing the same dress I wondered if it was a "uniform" of an organization of some sort... ???

mab
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 01 June 08 02:03 BST (UK)
You know, I'd like to put it just a little later, say 1888 or even 1889...it's because of the split look to the bodice, and the fact that there seems to be a very slight kickup to the sleeves, a fashion that got its big start in 1889...just my opinion.

The similarity in dresses may just be that the material was being ordered,  and the style of dress commissioned...all clothing was made by dressmakers then so it may have been as easy to make two...I have seen in other photos sisters wearing very similar dresses.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 01 June 08 02:17 BST (UK)
I meant to add that the top photo shows a woman wearing 1860s style clothing, although the photo itself may have been taken later than that...although most ladies wouldn't be caught dead in front of a camera in anything but the latest style, older ladies often retained the kind of clothing they were most comfortable in, and may have been on a fixed budget as well.

I also think she is wearing a widow's cap.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: forthefamily on Sunday 01 June 08 02:20 BST (UK)
Re the second picture....I was being a bit more conservative based on their birth dates and the fact that a larger bustle wasn't evident and as you know post 1884 it made a resurgence.

I also wondered if they had a joint marriage ceremony and both brides wore the same dress but then only capmelton can confirm that for us  ;D

mab
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: forthefamily on Sunday 01 June 08 02:23 BST (UK)
Hmmm.........maybe not a marriage as I don't see any evidence of a ring on the lady on the right.... :-\

mab
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 01 June 08 02:38 BST (UK)
Hmm...that's an idea...notice the guys are in the same outfit as well...

In Victorian photos, if a couple are touching they are either married or immediate family. This photo shows two married couples...

Cheers,
C
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: forthefamily on Sunday 01 June 08 02:44 BST (UK)
Wish we knew who they were so we could check it out now ;D Oh well  :-\

mab
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: capmelton on Sunday 01 June 08 11:28 BST (UK)
The photo is definitely a family portrait. This was confirmed by the daughter of the lady on the left. (she is still alive and in her 90+ years)
The family name is Maddison from left to right (Eliza, George Watson, Joseph William, Jane and their mum Mary Ann nee Watson.
I’ve double checked the births and Eliza was born in 1873, George 1862, Joseph William 1867, Jane 1865 and Mary Ann 1834.
Mary Ann died in 1904 aged 70.
My information is that it was taken at Waterhouses after the family had moved from Weardale Co Durham.

Could any one tell me what the object is that the lady in the first photo has in her hand?
capmelton
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: chinakay on Monday 02 June 08 04:09 BST (UK)
A walking stick on one hand, but the other is pretty blurry...

Cheers,
C
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: saddles on Tuesday 03 June 08 02:01 BST (UK)
Hi..........I can't help with dates so I have given your photo colour instead.


Carolyn  :)
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: capmelton on Tuesday 03 June 08 19:04 BST (UK)
Thanks Carolyn the colour is great. Would it be too much trouble to make the two ladies dresses the same colour? And can you do anything with the 1st photo?
Hope you don't think i'm being cheeky!
Capmelton
Title: Re: Dates for photos please
Post by: saddles on Wednesday 04 June 08 03:23 BST (UK)
Hi Capmelton......As requested a change of colour of a dress.


Carolyn  :)