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Title: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: Chetnole on Thursday 29 May 08 22:49 BST (UK)
Hi can anyone help me??
 
I am researching the Andrews family of Winchester, in the 1861 census Edward Andrews is living in Winchester, Hampshire with his mother and family. Later census's show that the lady he married was called Georgianna Amelia Drake. In 1862 in Sydney an Edward Andrews is seen marrying Georgianna Amelia Drake Mounsdon, BUT by November 1862 they appear to be back in england baptising their first daughter, Georgiana!

Can anyone help explain how this could be possible?? i can find no records of them of any ship lists!

Thanks so much.
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: Treelover on Thursday 29 May 08 23:26 BST (UK)
Hi

Sorry I can't help you. But in a word YES it can happen.

On my tree.  Hilda M Barker sailed out on SS Ballarat August 1925 to Melborne, Aus.  Married Australia November 1925.

September 1926 her daughter was born in Norfolk.  We beleive she couldn't stand the heat.

Joan  ;)
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: troods on Thursday 29 May 08 23:37 BST (UK)
Hi

Have a look at Find Your Past. I found 2 entries for a passport application surname Andrews in 1861/1862. You  have to purchase credits to view the image.


http://www.findmypast.com/PassportStartSearchServlet

Regards Troods
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: maidmarianoops on Friday 30 May 08 11:18 BST (UK)
passport for edward may  12 1862 passport  number 57256
 georgina 1862 june 17 1862 passport number 5?163 ?
sylvia




1860 AND 4 images  VIEW 
1861 AND 2 images  VIEW 
1862 AND 2 images  VIEW .,,,,,,,
 
 
 
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: Fur hat on Tuesday 30 June 09 17:59 BST (UK)
Hi - are you still researching? I'm pretty sure your Georgianna Drake Mounsdon is my great-great Aunt; in which case I know quite a bit about her family - including some of her ancestors back to 1670!

Our family tree only records that she married a Winchester Coach Builder and emigrated to Australia though. Did you find anything out? Are you a direct descendent by any chance? Thanks.
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: drakesdream on Tuesday 01 September 09 17:19 BST (UK)
Hi - are you still researching? I'm pretty sure your Georgianna Drake Mounsdon is my great-great Aunt; in which case I know quite a bit about her family - including some of her ancestors back to 1670!

Our family tree only records that she married a Winchester Coach Builder and emigrated to Australia though. Did you find anything out? Are you a direct descendent by any chance? Thanks.
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: drakesdream on Tuesday 01 September 09 17:25 BST (UK)
Hi there
Georgiana was my great great aunt
I have a sampler that she did and also the catalogue of the Andrews family when they were auctioning the coach business in Winchester. I am interested in finding out more about George Henry Drake if anyone has any info. He was Mary Mounsdons partner and her daughter Amelia Drake Mounsdon was my great great grandmother. I have the middle name of Drake which has been carried down through our side of the family
 
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: Fur hat on Wednesday 02 September 09 18:27 BST (UK)
Hi there
George Henry Drake (1807-1863) was an Exeter solicitor, son of John Drake (1762-1839), a Crediton miller, and Charity Jackman (1767-1839). He was my greatx2 grandfather and - it seems - your greatx3. I also have his grandparents and great grandparents on both sides.

Why did he never marry our gtx2/3 grandmother, Mary Mounsdon? I knew this story but never knew why. The name Drake was passed down through our family also . Do tell me what you know or this mystery will disappear in the mists of time!
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: drakesdream on Wednesday 31 March 10 22:35 BST (UK)
Hi there sorry has taken me a longtime to reply as forgot my log in pass word. I have a distant cousin who has had it passed down to her that two Drake boys "courted" two Mounsdon girls but they did not marry as it was felt that the girls were not from a suitable family. Who knows if this is the case. I have a copy of George H Drake's will he lived at 4 Queens Square Mount Radford. He left £500 to his friend Mary Mardon otherwise Henrietta H??? of Brunswick Square London. The balance of the executors account shows £1748.40 which GHD bequeathed Georgianna Drake Mounsdon to share equally between herself mother brother and sister. Georgianna at the time of the will lived in Bartholomew Street Exeter and was named as executrix Will dated 5th sept 1859. Died it looks like 30th Dec 1863

Hope this is of interest to you if you do not already have this info
LDW
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: Fur hat on Wednesday 08 September 10 19:29 BST (UK)
Hi
Sorry it's taken me a long time to reply too - the family tree goes in fits and starts. All that was interesting, thanks. I went to Devon recently and there are still lots of Drakes there - one of our relatives has a big plaque in the church. I've got all the ancestors if you need them, but don't know how I'd type them in this space. They go back to the 17th century, so pretty impressive. Have you got any more over there?
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: drakesdream on Monday 13 September 10 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi Me too fits and starts  I would be interested in seeing details of what you have. Laura Drake Mounsden my great grandmother wrote out a family tree and I have yhis and it goes back quite a way but with few details and also details of the birth of about 10 Mounsden children brothers and sister of Mary Mounsden. Do you have the family tee on any site?I have put quite a lot on Genes Reunited again in fits and starts as time permits
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: Fur hat on Friday 28 January 11 21:12 GMT (UK)
Hi there

Excuse delay again. Was travelling a bit but now am going to put some energy into this properly!

I've definitely got some ancestors to add to your collection but I've never put a family tree on-line How would I reach yours? I don't know my way around Genes Reunited - is there a link directly to it? If I can find it, I'll put my collection on there.

I've got the parents, grandparents and great-grandparents of George Henry Drake, and of Mary Mounsdon. Also - strangely - I've got the life of their son Henry (my ancestor, and brother of your ancestor Georgianna. He's described as an orphan, adopted by Dr. Epps 'the homeopathic doctor'!! Is that what happened to Georgianna too?

Shall be interested in the 10 siblings of Mary Mounsdon (?) that you've got. Are they on there? There must be a lot of us about!

Look forward to hearing ....
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: drakesdream on Friday 18 March 11 17:19 GMT (UK)
Hello there
Accidently logged on to this site and saw you wrote a message a month or so ago so sorry for the delay. If you join Genes Reunited you will find as well as me the great great grandaughter of Laura Drake Mounsdon also with his family tree on their is a decendant of Georgianna who married into the  Andrews family. There is another Mounsdon link as well with some of the Drake family that you obviously already know about. On the Genes  site when you find a family match you can ask the tree owner  to have access to their family tree. I would love to learn more on the info you have. When I have a bit more time I will perhaps put details of all Mary Mounsdon's brothers and sisters on here for you or may even put them on the Gener reunited site. There were about 10 or so brothers and sisters but some died very young. I will try and log on to this site more often from now on
Lois
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: Fur hat on Friday 25 March 11 23:37 GMT (UK)
Hi
I went on to Genes Reunited but obviously didn't pay enough 'cos I didn't seem to have the right to see family trees! I'll join in a month (when my other subscrip. expires) and start uploading. I couldn't see any Drake Mounsdons on there tho'.

Anyway, here are some ancestors for you - just for fun - although you may have them already. George Henry Drake's parents were William Drake  and Charity Jackman; and Mary Mounsdon's parents were Charles Mounsdon and Mary Delve. Great old English names aren't they?

I'll post a message on here when I join Genes Reunited. Then maybe explain how I find you there (I'm guessing it's not under 'Mounsdon'). Thanks and see you there.
Title: Re: 1861 in England, 1862 marrying in Aus, 1863 back in the uk, is this possible??!!
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 26 March 11 08:38 GMT (UK)
When you join Genes Reunited you do not have automatic access to any of the family trees.  You must contact the owner of the tree, who will then allow you to have access, if they wish to do so.

BumbleB