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Title: Ballachulish
Post by: sheden on Monday 26 May 08 04:34 BST (UK)
Hi
 I live in Ballachulish so if I can be of  help to anyone just let me know.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Merideth on Tuesday 27 May 08 09:33 BST (UK)
Hello Sheden, my 2xGreatGrandmother was Annie Mcpherson married at Kirl House, Ardgour in 1868, I know its a long shot but do you know if it still stands? cheers Merideth
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: sheden on Tuesday 27 May 08 15:31 BST (UK)
Hi Merideth
 I have some friends that live in Ardgour and have sent them a message asking them to find out for you.
 Will let you know either way when I find out.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: sheden on Sunday 08 June 08 19:45 BST (UK)
Hello Sheden, my 2xGreatGrandmother was Annie Mcpherson married at Kirl House, Ardgour in 1868, I know its a long shot but do you know if it still stands? cheers Merideth
Hi Merideth
Sorry we have been unable to get any information on Kirl House. We have asked about and if any information should come our way in the future I will contact you and let you know.
Sheena
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Merideth on Monday 09 June 08 05:40 BST (UK)
Hello Sheena, Thank you so much for trying to find that out for me. Cheers Merideth  ;D
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: ArtyAndy on Friday 05 September 08 16:44 BST (UK)
Hi

In this thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,325769.0.html

I ask for some help about some questions I have in relation to my family who were in Ballachulish around the turn of the 18th and 19th Century and would have been linked to the quarries there.

Quote
I am trying to find information on a John McDougall and a Rachael McColl who lived in the Appin area in the late 1700s and early 1800s.

The Book “Villages of Northern Argyll by Mary Withall” mentions a family Gravestone in the ground of the Keil Chapel in Duror. The stone is notable because of reference to their 8 deceased children. I am descended from their Daughter Isabella who would have been born around 1812.

Our information suggests that at some point they were based near Ballachulish and that John was a “Quarry Contractor”. I believe that Ballachulish was known for quarrying.

Our information is that Isabella in 1832 married a Master Joiner and Timber Contractor called John Carmichael who was from Lismore and thereabouts. They lived at a farm/mill named in family letters as “Dal ma - trait” but this might also be read as Dalnatrat.

If anyone has information about the McDougall, McColl or even Carmichael families in this area, or ANY information about these areas, including what documentation there may be about quarrying in Ballachulish and the people that worked there I would really appreciate you making contact.

Any help, advice or basic info you can point me to would be gratefully received.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: mgraemem on Saturday 22 November 08 02:13 GMT (UK)
Sheden,

I'm not sure how to ask this but I am inquiring about any additional information to what I currently know about my great great grandfather, Duncan MacKenzie who was born December 20, 1821 in Ballachulish Scotland? He left Scotland in 1843 on the Good Ship Perthshire, presumably from Glasgow, for Canada arriving in what was then Wellington Square but is now Burlington. From the information I have, his father, Hugh MacKenzie and his mother, Margaret MacKenzie came with them to Wellington Square where they both died soon after emigrating. Hugh and Margaret were married in Glasgow, Lanark Scotland on November 30, 1810. I don't know if Duncan's parents were from Ballachulish proper.

What I am hoping to find is some kind of physical records or evidence of their presence in Ballachulish, occupational information, other relatives, reasons for their decision to depart for the New World, the Gaelic Bible that Hugh possessed, local parish records, local stories, that sort of thing. My grandfather discovered the information I had when he was alive and made a trip to Scotland and Northern Ireland, where my great great grandmother was from.

I am descended from Hugh (and Margaret) MacKenzie like this:

Hugh MacKenzie - Duncan MacKenzie - Hugh Henry MacKenzie - John Hugh MacKenzie - John Rogers MacKenzie - myself, Martin G. MacKenzie. My family from Duncan after he emigrated from Scotland to my grandfather were Canadian until my grandfather moved to the United States.

Can you help?

Thanks,

Martin MacKenzie

P.S. I'm including an older photograph of Duncan and Isobella MacKenzie in their older years and two of their children.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: nenny4 on Saturday 14 March 09 20:09 GMT (UK)
looking for info  on McKenzie Family.. father Malcolm. mother Catherine bell..children Archibald,Catherine.Mary and john.  and had grandson Callum 
  1891 census were living at 146 Ballachulish road..
  1901 census they were living at 166 east Laroch Malcolm's father was John McKenzie they all appear to be slater quarrymen. I am not directly related to Malcolm but I am to his wife Catherine thanks Nenny
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Wednesday 18 March 09 18:08 GMT (UK)
Hello Sheden, my 2xGreatGrandmother was Annie Mcpherson married at Kirl House, Ardgour in 1868, I know its a long shot but do you know if it still stands? cheers Merideth

Are you sure it is "Kirl"?  I don't speak Gaelic but the word does not seem right somehow.  I did a Google Books search and all the matches on "Kirl" are actually other words (Google Books uses OCR). "Kirk" or "Kiel" seem more likely possibilities.

Martin Briscoe
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: sheden on Thursday 19 March 09 14:35 GMT (UK)
looking for info  on McKenzie Family.. father Malcolm. mother Catherine bell..children Archibald,Catherine.Mary and john.  and had grandson Callum 
  1891 census were living at 146 Ballachulish road..
  1901 census they were living at 166 east Laroch Malcolm's father was John McKenzie they all appear to be slater quarrymen. I am not directly related to Malcolm but I am to his wife Catherine thanks Nenny

Hi Nenny
I had a look at the register in the local primary school and Malcolm registered Archi, Cath and  Mary on 12th Feb 1884. They were all registered together so I presume thats when they arrived in the area. It also lists their dates of birth and the dates they left the school.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: sheden on Thursday 19 March 09 14:47 GMT (UK)
Sheden,

I'm not sure how to ask this but I am inquiring about any additional information to what I currently know about my great great grandfather, Duncan MacKenzie who was born December 20, 1821 in Ballachulish Scotland? He left Scotland in 1843 on the Good Ship Perthshire, presumably from Glasgow, for Canada arriving in what was then Wellington Square but is now Burlington. From the information I have, his father, Hugh MacKenzie and his mother, Margaret MacKenzie came with them to Wellington Square where they both died soon after emigrating. Hugh and Margaret were married in Glasgow, Lanark Scotland on November 30, 1810. I don't know if Duncan's parents were from Ballachulish proper.

What I am hoping to find is some kind of physical records or evidence of their presence in Ballachulish, occupational information, other relatives, reasons for their decision to depart for the New World, the Gaelic Bible that Hugh possessed, local parish records, local stories, that sort of thing. My grandfather discovered the information I had when he was alive and made a trip to Scotland and Northern Ireland, where my great great grandmother was from.

I am descended from Hugh (and Margaret) MacKenzie like this:

Hugh MacKenzie - Duncan MacKenzie - Hugh Henry MacKenzie - John Hugh MacKenzie - John Rogers MacKenzie - myself, Martin G. MacKenzie. My family from Duncan after he emigrated from Scotland to my grandfather were Canadian until my grandfather moved to the United States.

Can you help?

Thanks,

Martin MacKenzie

P.S. I'm including an older photograph of Duncan and Isobella MacKenzie in their older years and two of their children.

Hi Martin
Sorry it has taen so long or me to reply. I have had no luck so far finding any records for you but have more time at the momnt and will see if I can dig anything up for you.

Sheena
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: sheden on Thursday 19 March 09 14:50 GMT (UK)
Hi

In this thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,325769.0.html

I ask for some help about some questions I have in relation to my family who were in Ballachulish around the turn of the 18th and 19th Century and would have been linked to the quarries there.

Quote
I am trying to find information on a John McDougall and a Rachael McColl who lived in the Appin area in the late 1700s and early 1800s.

The Book “Villages of Northern Argyll by Mary Withall” mentions a family Gravestone in the ground of the Keil Chapel in Duror. The stone is notable because of reference to their 8 deceased children. I am descended from their Daughter Isabella who would have been born around 1812.

Our information suggests that at some point they were based near Ballachulish and that John was a “Quarry Contractor”. I believe that Ballachulish was known for quarrying.

Our information is that Isabella in 1832 married a Master Joiner and Timber Contractor called John Carmichael who was from Lismore and thereabouts. They lived at a farm/mill named in family letters as “Dal ma - trait” but this might also be read as Dalnatrat.

If anyone has information about the McDougall, McColl or even Carmichael families in this area, or ANY information about these areas, including what documentation there may be about quarrying in Ballachulish and the people that worked there I would really appreciate you making contact.

Any help, advice or basic info you can point me to would be gratefully received.
Hi Andy
Sorry for length of time t has taken for me to reply to you.
I have arranged for one of my friends in Duror to go with me to the graveyard in our easter holidays and I will try and get a photo of the gravestone in question.
Sheena
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: nenny4 on Thursday 19 March 09 17:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Shedan I know the children were born at Lismore..I think Malcolm came fron there Originally as thats stated on their wedding cert..nenny
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Cramond Brig on Monday 25 May 09 23:53 BST (UK)
I wonder if you could help me solve a mystery in connection with my research into the Scottish contribution to World War 1.

I have found the two Argylls listed below. The records are from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission but I feel that one of the soldier’s first names must be wrong. They would appear to be brothers.

Corporal John Carmichael, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, Age: 25, Date of Death: 13/11/1916, Additional information: Son of Archie and Sarah Carmichael, of Ballachulish, Argyll.

Private John Carmichael, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, Age: 20, Date of Death: 13/11/1916, Additional information: Son of Archie and Sarah Carmichael, of Ballachulish, Argyll.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Alistair McEwen
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Tuesday 26 May 09 00:37 BST (UK)
There are two completely different grave reference numbers so not the same person appearing twice

There are also two medal cards, both John Carmichael with same date unit and date of death

Private John Carmichael is 2279
Corporal John Carmichael is 2045  so both agree with the CWGC

2045 is 28 East Laroch, Ballachulish

Can't find Service Record for 2279 but in 2045's there is a note to the Manse in Ballachulish noting the two have the same first name but appear to be brothers.

There is a reply explaining that this is quite common in the area.  One brother would have an English name and the other a Gaelic name.  One man was named after his paternal grandfather and the other after his maternal grandfather.

The father Archie was still alive but the mother was deceased.  They had a brother Donald Age 29, sisters Annie Carmichael Age 30 and Catherine McKenzie Age 32 at 47 East Laroch.



I can send you copies of the letter if you want but I will be away from home for a few days.  Send me a private message if you want a copy.


Martin Briscoe
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: mgraemem on Thursday 28 May 09 02:49 BST (UK)
Ma'am,

Thank you for your efforts nevertheless. Let me know if you find anything. :-)

Martin G. MacKenzie

Sheden,

I'm not sure how to ask this but I am inquiring about any additional information to what I currently know about my great great grandfather, Duncan MacKenzie who was born December 20, 1821 in Ballachulish Scotland? He left Scotland in 1843 on the Good Ship Perthshire, presumably from Glasgow, for Canada arriving in what was then Wellington Square but is now Burlington. From the information I have, his father, Hugh MacKenzie and his mother, Margaret MacKenzie came with them to Wellington Square where they both died soon after emigrating. Hugh and Margaret were married in Glasgow, Lanark Scotland on November 30, 1810. I don't know if Duncan's parents were from Ballachulish proper.

What I am hoping to find is some kind of physical records or evidence of their presence in Ballachulish, occupational information, other relatives, reasons for their decision to depart for the New World, the Gaelic Bible that Hugh possessed, local parish records, local stories, that sort of thing. My grandfather discovered the information I had when he was alive and made a trip to Scotland and Northern Ireland, where my great great grandmother was from.

I am descended from Hugh (and Margaret) MacKenzie like this:

Hugh MacKenzie - Duncan MacKenzie - Hugh Henry MacKenzie - John Hugh MacKenzie - John Rogers MacKenzie - myself, Martin G. MacKenzie. My family from Duncan after he emigrated from Scotland to my grandfather were Canadian until my grandfather moved to the United States.

Can you help?

Thanks,

Martin MacKenzie

P.S. I'm including an older photograph of Duncan and Isobella MacKenzie in their older years and two of their children.

Hi Martin
Sorry it has taen so long or me to reply. I have had no luck so far finding any records for you but have more time at the momnt and will see if I can dig anything up for you.

Sheena
Title: Re: Ballachulish battle filmed 1969
Post by: soffpro on Wednesday 10 June 09 14:14 BST (UK)
Hi Sheden,

you're a year older than me. i am trying to trace details of a film that was being shot in Ballachulish or actually Glencoe in spring/summer 1969. i am writing an autobiography and recalling a memory of coming across a field full of dummy dead horses, redcoats and scots when we travelled through Glencoe.

do you have any idea or know of anyone who was around there at that time. you would have been 8yo.

from my research i have been in touch with the visitor centre, McCleans Scotland, scotlandthemovie.com, two hotels in ballachulish, the international movie data base, and a few other trails.

the battle scene could have been for televison, corporate video or historical re-enactment.
i know 'Kidnapped' was filmed either 69 or 70 (released 71 starring Micheal Caine) and so was 'Massacre of Glencoe' (released 71 starring James Robertson Justice).

also, monty python's were filming in the area but this scene was definitely redcoats versus highlanders, (maybe the Jacobians, i'm not sure) .

it was most likely late spring - April/May.

if you can help i would really appreciate it - and all the other agencies  have mentioned are now wanting to know for their archives. thanks - Adrian Kenton (author). if you could email me direct it will be easier for me to keep track of - (*)

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Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: hayley c 1985 on Sunday 15 November 09 20:20 GMT (UK)
I wonder if you could help me solve a mystery in connection with my research into the Scottish contribution to World War 1.

I have found the two Argylls listed below. The records are from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission but I feel that one of the soldier’s first names must be wrong. They would appear to be brothers.

Corporal John Carmichael, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, Age: 25, Date of Death: 13/11/1916, Additional information: Son of Archie and Sarah Carmichael, of Ballachulish, Argyll.

Private John Carmichael, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, Age: 20, Date of Death: 13/11/1916, Additional information: Son of Archie and Sarah Carmichael, of Ballachulish, Argyll.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Alistair McEwen

hi they are brothers they are my dads cousins in gaelic john means iain but one brother got called john the other johnny if you would like to know anything else let me know an all be glad to help.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: hayley c 1985 on Sunday 15 November 09 20:30 GMT (UK)
would you send me your email i dont have accses to ancestrey i cant seem to find your email address do you have any other info on the carmichael family and if you want to know anything else just let me know thanks
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: hayley c 1985 on Sunday 15 November 09 21:02 GMT (UK)
Hi

In this thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,325769.0.html

I ask for some help about some questions I have in relation to my family who were in Ballachulish around the turn of the 18th and 19th Century and would have been linked to the quarries there.

Quote
I am trying to find information on a John McDougall and a Rachael McColl who lived in the Appin area in the late 1700s and early 1800s.

The Book “Villages of Northern Argyll by Mary Withall” mentions a family Gravestone in the ground of the Keil Chapel in Duror. The stone is notable because of reference to their 8 deceased children. I am descended from their Daughter Isabella who would have been born around 1812.

Our information suggests that at some point they were based near Ballachulish and that John was a “Quarry Contractor”. I believe that Ballachulish was known for quarrying.

Our information is that Isabella in 1832 married a Master Joiner and Timber Contractor called John Carmichael who was from Lismore and thereabouts. They lived at a farm/mill named in family letters as “Dal ma - trait” but this might also be read as Dalnatrat.

If anyone has information about the McDougall, McColl or even Carmichael families in this area, or ANY information about these areas, including what documentation there may be about quarrying in Ballachulish and the people that worked there I would really appreciate you making contact.

Any help, advice or basic info you can point me to would be gratefully received.
   hi i am from the carmichael family my dad is from ballchulish he is called john carmichael
Title: COMPETED Re: Ballachulish
Post by: cattao on Sunday 14 February 10 06:26 GMT (UK)
Hi there
I am researching the McInnes family living in Ballachulish 1851,1861,1871 (from census) emigrated to Australia. Charles born about 1821, his son Archibald b.1844, slate people at East Laroch in 1851, 1861,1871. Any information about the quarry at East Laroch would be great. Some family born Easdale.
Any informat at all would be wonderful.
Cheers from Australia.
Title: Ballachulish
Post by: MairiMac on Wednesday 24 February 10 16:06 GMT (UK)
Hiya, I was born in Ballachulish in June 1990 although I was abandoned there at St.Johns Episcapol Church. I have no idea who the biological parents are but if anyone knows anything please get back to me.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: kiwiscot345 on Wednesday 07 April 10 22:23 BST (UK)
Dear Sheden,
Greetings from a warmish autumn day in New Zealand.  I'm not sure if you can help, but I though I should give it a try.

Back in September 1931, my grandfather John McPhee, (of Dunedin, NZ) visited Glencoe.  Here he met a local historian named McDonald, who told him the legend of my 5x g grand father, Sgt. Duncan McPhee of the 78th Fraser Highlanders, who served under General Wolfe at the battle for Quebec in 1759.

I would like to try and find out if there might be any local history/records that might mention this McDonald historian, or my grandfather's visit, or any McPhees in the area around the late 1700s?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 07 April 10 23:49 BST (UK)
Martin,  although a Ross-shire name, some Mackenzies settled in North Ballachulish from Brahan (Seaforth's Estate in Easter Ross) in the second half of the 16th cent' they were known locally, in Gaelic, as Na Tuathaich, the Northerners. Eight families of Mackenzies were evicted from the north side in 1824 and moved south to Ballachulish. (these included Portair Cam and his brother Duncan) This is from "Bygone Lochaber" by Somerled  Macmillan, privately reprinted in 1971, you should be able to pick up a copy from Google.....Skoosh.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 08 April 10 07:56 BST (UK)
Martin, that should read, "the descendants of Portair Cam and his brother Duncan", these guys operated the Ballachulish Ferry in the 18th century, they must have been "weel kent", try Googling "Ballachulish Ferry", the Mackenzies were evicted from their holdings where the Loch Leven Hotel now stands.........Skoosh.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 08 April 10 08:07 BST (UK)
Martin, I've just tried Google for the book, apparently the West Highland Museum in Fort William stock it.
Skoosh.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Michelle192 on Saturday 30 April 11 04:32 BST (UK)
sheden,

I'm looking for information on my 2nd great grandmother Isabella Cameron. According to the marriage records she is from Ballachulish. she married Hugh McMillan in 1848.  One the their children was catherine mary mcmillan. That's all the information.

Do you have any information on the cameron family?
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: nkbauer on Sunday 01 May 11 18:36 BST (UK)
I believe my maternal great grandmother was born in Ballachulish. Her parents, John Clark and Catherine McDonald were listed as living at 47 West Laroch in 1851, Laroch village in 1861, the Cottage in 1871, West Laroch village in 1881 and Ball Rd. in 1891. Do these place still exist? Do you know of a website with pictures of these areas? I live in Canada but would love to have an idea of what Ballachulish looked/looks like. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
N.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: sheden on Monday 02 May 11 19:31 BST (UK)
I believe my maternal great grandmother was born in Ballachulish. Her parents, John Clark and Catherine McDonald were listed as living at 47 West Laroch in 1851, Laroch village in 1861, the Cottage in 1871, West Laroch village in 1881 and Ball Rd. in 1891. Do these place still exist? Do you know of a website with pictures of these areas? I live in Canada but would love to have an idea of what Ballachulish looked/looks like. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
N.

Hi.
Can you tell me your G Grandmothers name and DOB if you have it and I can look up the old school records and see if she went to school in Ballachulish.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: cathymay on Saturday 07 May 11 13:27 BST (UK)
Hi Sheden

How far back do the old school records go? My great Grandfather, Donald Cameron (son of Angus Cameron and Christina McIntyre) was born in Ballachulish 29/5/1822. He also had sisters Clementina, Sarah (ca1826), Margaret (ca1828), Joanna (ca 1829) and Kitty (1831), and perhaps a brother Hugh between Margaret and Joanna. Father Angus was the Ferry Master and Inn Keeper at South Ballachulish Ferry around the time of Donald's birth. Later they were at Salachuil and Inchree, so not sure how often they lived in Ballachulish. Angus Cameron and Christina McIntyre are buried on Eileen Munde.

I visited Ballachulish briefly last October but was disappointed that I couldn't get over to the Island. :( I also tried to find out which part of the Ballachulish Hotel would have been the Inn in 1822, but didn't have any luck. Not sure if you can help with that at all?

Any information you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks and all the best,
Cathy from Australia
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: ozymozzy on Sunday 08 May 11 06:54 BST (UK)
My wife's ancestor Donald McColl was born on the 26 June 1788 in Ballachulish. We were wondering if it is possible to find if he had any brothers and sisters, and the names of his parents.

Thanks of any bits of information you might be able to find.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: angusmac on Monday 22 August 11 00:38 BST (UK)
Hey, my paternal grandparents lived in Ballachulish and i was wondering if anyone had any information on them. My own father died when i was very young, and my grandfather died before i was born, and my grandmother not long afterwards. Unfortunately my mum didn't keep in touch with my fathers side of the family so i literally have no information on them at all. My grandfather was called Angus Macdonald and my grandmother was called Zena (not sure if this is the correct spelling). I think my grandfather was brought up at Tigh A' Phuirt and lived with my gran in west laroch. i think my gran died around 15 years ago and my own dad died around 23 years ago. Any information would be great.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: nkbauer on Saturday 01 October 11 17:09 BST (UK)
Hello,
I've been following the various posts re Ballachulish with interest as my great grandmother was born there. Her parents lived and died there. I was wondering if there is a cemeterey in the Ballachulish area where those who died between 1870 and 1895 in Ballachulish were buried. If one exists, has it been well maintained? Are there gravestones there from the 1870-1895 time period?

Kind regards, Nan
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: nannycas on Friday 30 December 11 06:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Sheden,
Please can you let me know the best way to obtain birth information and parents for Donald Cameron, born in Ballaculish in 1806 and Margaret MacDonald, born in Ardchattan in 1811? Their marriage was 24 Oct 1835 in Ardchattan. I got the marriage cert from FamilySearch.org but it only has very limited information. They are my GG Grandparents.
Any information would be great.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: nkbauer on Friday 10 February 12 23:16 GMT (UK)
Has anyone else doing research on family in the 1800's in the Ballachulish area found it virtually impossible to find birth records? Family members are definitely not to be found on SP or the IGI. I find this very frustrating.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Saturday 11 February 12 00:02 GMT (UK)
Has anyone else doing research on family in the 1800's in the Ballachulish area found it virtually impossible to find birth records? Family members are definitely not to be found on SP or the IGI. I find this very frustrating.

I don't know a lot about records for the area but could it be that you are looking under the wrong church.  The churches in Ballachulish are perhaps mid 19th Century or older, there might have been older ones but I don't know details.  The only one I knows was near the old Tom na Creige Moire Burial Ground (http://www.flickr.com/photos/doffcocker/6008422432/), North Ballachulish.

I don't remember any very old graves at St John's (http://www.flickr.com/photos/doffcocker/5955075032/) church Ballachulish.

You could have a look on the Highland HER or Canmore to get a clue about older ones.

Are the records under the main parish, either Appin & Lismore or Duror of Appin?

There is a parish map on the Lochaber And North Argyll Family History Group (http://www.lochaberandnorthargyllfamilyhistorygroup.org.uk/index.html) website

MB
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: nkbauer on Sunday 12 February 12 04:43 GMT (UK)
Hello,
Thank you for your suggestions Martin.I don't know much about the area either as I live in Canada. Both my great great grandmother b. 1812 and great grandmother b 1844 state in the  1851 census records that they were born in Appin but in later census records they said they were born in Ballachulish. As I said I cannot find their births on SP or in the IGI. Could it be that they weren't registered at birth? Are there parish records in existence that have not be copied to SP?
I don't know of any churches other than St. John's which you mentioned and St. Muns or St. Mundas. Does anyone know of others that existed in those birth years in those areas? And do records from these churches exist? At the moment I am not even sure if these relatives were protestant or catholic. My grandmother was Prebyterian as far as I know but she died before I was born. Now there is no one left to ask.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Nan
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Sunday 12 February 12 08:31 GMT (UK)
I am sorry but I just don't know enough about the area.  Try contacting the Lochaber And North Argyll Family History Group and see if they can give any advice.  There seems to have been quite a lot of questions asked about Ballachulish here but not many answers.

MB
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Sunday 12 February 12 14:06 GMT (UK)
Just remembered there is at least one old church in Ballachulish

http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/108821/details/ballachulish+east+laroch+the+old+stables/

http://her.highland.gov.uk/SingleResult.aspx?uid=MHG17327




There is also Eilean Munde

http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/23541/details/eilean+munde+st+mund+s+chapel/

http://her.highland.gov.uk/SingleResult.aspx?uid=MHG22558

http://her.highland.gov.uk/SingleResult.aspx?uid=MHG340


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kv3/

MB
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: nkbauer on Monday 13 February 12 17:33 GMT (UK)
Thank you once again Martin. I've really enjoyed these sites and have learned a little more about the area. Even if I never go back another generation, I've learned more about the ones I have traced.
Nan
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Monday 13 February 12 17:46 GMT (UK)
OK glad that able to help a bit.

You can search both Canmore and the HER in several different ways.

I have some of the pictures that I have taken here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/doffcocker/sets/), I have uploaded most to Canmore but the HER take a bit longer to catch up.

There a few other links here (http://sites.google.com/site/gm8aob/home/family-history-link/scotland-links) that you might be able to use.

Glencoe Museum (http://www.glencoemuseum.com/home.htm) have a large collection of old photographs of that area but I don't think they have any online.

MB
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: mhairi1 on Wednesday 14 March 12 13:05 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm new to this so hope I'm doing it correctly! I've been able to trace my family to John Livingston and Mary Fraser married in 1798 in parish of Lismore and Appin, probably Ballachulish. I also believe that the Livingstone brothers from there took the remains of Seamus a' Ghlinne down from the gibbet and buried them in Keil. I know that John Livingston (9th of that name) was killed at Culloden and his five sons were Eoghainn, Niall, Domhnall, John and Angus. Can anyone give me any info on 4rth son John whom I believe may have been father of my ancestor? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Mhairi1
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: woodfamily on Sunday 29 April 12 12:39 BST (UK)
Hi Sheden & others

I'm looking for more information on Duncan McINTYRE (b. c1790) who is recorded as a shoemaker at Inverco farm, Glencoe (then in Duror QS, part of Lismore/Appin parish) in the 1841 census. His wife was Catherine McINNES (nee RANKIN), daughter of Ewen and Christina RANKIN, and their children were Ann, Catherine, Duncan and John (plus two McINNES children from the former marriage).

His death certificate gives his place of birth as Fort William, and his parents as Hugh McINTYRE and Christina McMILLAN.

My questions are:
1) Why can't I birth/baptism or marriage record for him (or Catherine) on the IGI?
2) Why was a shoemaker living on Inverco farm? Who owned the farm?
3) Can anybody help me find records relating to Duncan's parents?

Thanks!

Joel
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Sunday 29 April 12 13:23 BST (UK)
Hi Sheden & others

I'm looking for more information on Duncan McINTYRE (b. c1790) who is recorded as a shoemaker at Inverco farm, Glencoe (then in Duror QS, part of Lismore/Appin parish) in the 1841 census. His wife was Catherine McINNES (nee RANKIN), daughter of Ewen and Christina RANKIN, and their children were Ann, Catherine, Duncan and John (plus two McINNES children from the former marriage).

His death certificate gives his place of birth as Fort William, and his parents as Hugh McINTYRE and Christina McMILLAN.

My questions are:
1) Why can't I birth/baptism or marriage record for him (or Catherine) on the IGI?
2) Why was a shoemaker living on Inverco farm? Who owned the farm?
3) Can anybody help me find records relating to Duncan's parents?

Thanks!

Joel

I think the LDS have effectively discontinued the old IGI, though still available.  It was notorious for inaccurate "Members' Submissions" which most people ignored.

They now have a different format on the familysearch.org site which often links to images of parish records.

I don't know how comprehensive their coverage of Scotland is, it is very dependent on cooperation of the churches and I think many RC churches did not give them access to their records.

The starting off point for any Scottish research is Scotland's People which has both parish records and Statutary Records with images available but it is a pay site.  You have to buy credits to view records though you can search free and get an idea if there are any possible matches there.

I don't know why a shoemaker would be there but it was normal for even small villages to have shoemakers and often people would have several occupations so shoemaking could be a sideline for the person working the farm.

There is a lot of information on Scotland available online (http://sites.google.com/site/gm8aob/home/family-history-link/scotland-links).

MB

Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Eyesee on Tuesday 08 May 12 02:07 BST (UK)
My ancestors Duncan and Marjory FRASER left Corran in 1840 to go to New Zealand. He was the blacksmith there and ran sheep for the laird at the time. Their later children were baptised in the church at Ballachulish, which is on the other side of the Narrows from Corran, and one son Thomas was buried there in November 1839. Various descendants have visited the area over the years, and the smithy that Duncan lived in and worked at in Corran is apparently still there, as is the 1839 gravestone for Thomas FRASER in the Ballachulish churchyard.

Ian C
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: mgraemem on Saturday 08 December 12 19:09 GMT (UK)
Martin,  although a Ross-shire name, some Mackenzies settled in North Ballachulish from Brahan (Seaforth's Estate in Easter Ross) in the second half of the 16th cent' they were known locally, in Gaelic, as Na Tuathaich, the Northerners. Eight families of Mackenzies were evicted from the north side in 1824 and moved south to Ballachulish. (these included Portair Cam and his brother Duncan) This is from "Bygone Lochaber" by Somerled  Macmillan, privately reprinted in 1971, you should be able to pick up a copy from Google.....Skoosh.

Hello Skoosh: We're you replying to myself or Martin Briscoe?

Regards,

Martin MacKenzie
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 09 December 12 13:43 GMT (UK)
Martin, to anybody who thinks it relevant. It's been so long ago that I've lost the plot a bit I'm afraid .

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: mgraemem on Sunday 09 December 12 15:37 GMT (UK)
Martin, to anybody who thinks it relevant. It's been so long ago that I've lost the plot a bit I'm afraid .

Skoosh.

Tapadh leat co dhiù, Skoosh. The information you posted seems to be quite relevant to our little branch of the MacKenzies as I've been trying to figure out how we ended up living in Ballachulish and thence emigrating from there as Argyle hasn't ever been MacKenzie country. I've found a copy of the book you mentioned available in Abebooks in the UK. Again, thanks.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Sunday 09 December 12 16:30 GMT (UK)
Martin, to anybody who thinks it relevant. It's been so long ago that I've lost the plot a bit I'm afraid .

Skoosh.
Tapadh leat co dhiù, Skoosh. The information you posted seems to be quite relevant to our little branch of the MacKenzies as I've been trying to figure out how we ended up living in Ballachulish and thence emigrating from there as Argyle hasn't ever been MacKenzie country. I've found a copy of the book you mentioned available in Abebooks in the UK. Again, thanks.

I don't suppose you have any connection to the Nigel Banks MacKenzie family who I think lived in Onich at some point?  A couple of years I looked up their son C.E.S. MacKenzie after seeing his name on the Fort William War Memorial.  Found out most details but not been able to get him recognised as a war casualty by the CWGC and his grave in Rangoon seems to have disappeared from a report I got from someone who had been there.

Descendants of Rev. Neil MACKENZIE
----------------------------------
1-Rev. Neil MACKENZIE b. 1795, Glen Sannox, Isle Of Arran, Scotland, d. 8 Dec
  1879, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
 +Elizabeth CRAWFORD b. Abt 1803, Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland, d. 17 Dec 1864
|-2-Eliza MACKENZIE b. 21 Oct 1832, St Kilda, Inverness-Shire, Scotland, d. 4
|   Oct 1910
|-2-Rev. James Bannatyne MACKENZIE b. 6 Dec 1833, St Kilda, Inverness-Shire,
|   Scotland, d. 25 Dec 1920, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
|-2-Jane Mcpherson MACKENZIE b. 25 Apr 1835
|-2-Nigel Banks MACKENZIE b. 21 Apr 1837, St Kilda, Scotland, d. 4 Nov 1924
|  +Lillias Scott ----- b. Abt 1853, Glasgow, Lanarkshire
| |-3-Nigel Blair MACKENZIE b. 17 Apr 1874, Kilmallie, Argyll, Scotland
| |-3-Lillias K MACKENZIE b. Abt 1876, Glasgow, Invernessshire
| |-3-Kenneth A MACKENZIE b. Abt 1877, Glasgow, Invernessshire
| |-3-Margaret E MACKENZIE b. Abt 1879, Kilmallie, Inverness-Shire
| |-3-Francis MACKENZIE b. Abt 1880, Glasgow, Invernessshire
| |-3-Frank MACKENZIE b. Abt 1881, Kilmallie, Inverness-Shire
| |-3-Agnes C MACKENZIE b. Abt 1882, Kilmallie, Inverness-Shire
| |-3-Donald M MACKENZIE b. Abt 1884, Kilmallie, Inverness-Shire
| |-3-Mary H MACKENZIE b. Abt 1885, Kilmallie, Inverness-Shire
| |-3-Edith Mabel MACKENZIE b. Abt 1888, Fort William, Inverness-Shire, d. 13
| |   Jun 1942, Montrose
| |-3-Charles Edward Stuart MACKENZIE b. Abt 1890, Fort William,
| |   Inverness-Shire, d. 29 May 1915, Rangoon, Burma
| |-3-John William MACKENZIE
|-2-Margaret MACKENZIE b. 25 Nov 1838, St Kilda, Inverness-Shire, Scotland
|-2-Mary Anna MACKENZIE b. 25 Nov 1838, St Kilda, Inverness-Shire, Scotland
|-2-Rev. Patrick William McKENZIE b. 18 Apr 1841, St Kilda, Inverness-Shire,
|   Scotland, d. 14 Oct 1912, Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland
|-2-Helen Macmath MACKENZIE b. 22 Jul 1844
|-2-Eleanora Alexandrina MACKENZIE b. 23 Jun 1846, Kilbrandon, Argyle, d. 17
|   Feb 1940, Stonehaven, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
----------------------------------


Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: mgraemem on Sunday 09 December 12 20:31 GMT (UK)
Martin,

No sir, I'm afraid not. My family left Ballachulish for Canada in 1843 on the Perthshire. My descent goes like this:

Hugh & Margaret MacKenzie
Duncan & Isobella Anderson (MacKenzie)

The family is firmly in Canada.

Hugh Henry MacKenzie & Jane Jennings (MacKenzie)

My grandfather, John Hugh as below, emigrated to the USA.

John Hugh MacKenzie & Helen Rogers MacPherson (MacKenzie)
John Rogers MacKenzie & Mary John Mathisson (MacKenzie)
then myself

Apologies and best of luck,

Martin G. MacKenzie
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Elsket on Sunday 10 February 13 13:22 GMT (UK)
 Hi from Western Australia,

I have a McKenzie/Mackenzie family who were in Onich near Ballachulish, and would welcome suggestions about where to proceed further to find information about family members, or their ancestors. I visited the Archives in Fort William a couple of years ago and found records of the family as tenants of Lochiel.

Angus McKenzie: possibly born in 1786 to William McKenzie and Kate McDonald. He died between 1844 and 1845 at Onich acc. to the Lochiel Estate records, which show that his eldest son Donald has taken over the tenancy of Tor Castle Farm "as heir of Angus McKenzie." Estate Records also show that Angus leased lands in several locations besides Tor Castle/Torcastle, including Salachill, as well as croft 9 at "Oanich" from about 1820. The 1841 Census has him as a 60 yo farmer, not born in the county. He is married to Betsy [Elisabeth McPherson: b 3 Jan 1793 Crathy Croy, Laggan to Alexander McPherson and Mary McDonald] who is 55 yo and not born in the County.

Angus and Betsy's children are:
1) Margaret McKenzie: b 1816, m John Campbell 1829-1830, migrated with him, their nine children, and two of her sisters to Australia 1855 on the Storm Cloud, d. Lilydale, Tasmania, Australia 4 Oct 1892.

2) Donald McKenzie: b abt 1818, 1841 - he is Ag Lab, not born in County, at Torcastle, 1844/5 - he is "heir of Angus McKenzie", d. 1852 - Tor Castle is handed to Thomas Paterson because Duncan McKenzie, heir of Donald McKenzie has "gone abroad".

3) Elisabeth McKenzie: b 7 Jun 1819 Strathmashie Laggan, 1841 - she is independent and living with her eldest sister, Margaret and family, at Loch Laggan Inn [Kinlochlaggan], 1855 - she migrated to Tasmania with two of her sisters, including Margaret, on the Storm Cloud.

4) Duncan McKenzie: b abt 1821, 1841 - he is a 20 yo Ag Lab, not born in the County, between 1841 and 1852 he goes "abroad". [Not found in Australian records]

5) Catherine McKenzie: b abt 1822, 1841 - she is a female servant, not born in the County, d abt 1886 Undated and unnamed newspaper clipping found among other family papers in Tasmania reads: McKENZIE-On the 23rd inst., Catherine, the daughter of the late Angus and Betsy McKenzie, of Torcastle, Argyleshire, Scotland, aged 65 years.

6) Isabella McKenzie: b 2 Jun 1825 Strathmashie Laggan, 1841 - she is a 15 yo servant at Wilton Melton or Milton, 1855 - she migrated to Australia with her two sisters on the Storm Cloud, d 4 Apr 1879 in Melbourne Australia.

7) John McKenzie: b abt 1820, 1845 - he takes over his fathers croft at Oanich "John McKenzie, son of Angus McKenzie, deceased." until 1865 [records for Lochiel Estate are not available after that date].

I have reliable sources for the information above, and have traced most of the descendants of Margaret and John Campbell's family, but would welcome more information and or advice, especially about Donald, John or Duncan's family. I have searched for their deaths using Scotland's People but have not found any conclusive data.

William Campbell was in Oanich at Martinmas 1786 when he and 5 other tenants [3 were Camerons, 1 Macmartin, 1 Mach--t] agreed on a yearly rent payable to Donald Cameron of Lochiel, so it is highly probably that William was the father of Angus McKenzie. BTW, not until after 1855 does Oanich become Onich in the Estate Records.

In case it helps others: in a written report I received from the Lochaber Archives in Fort William in 2010:
"In 1750, four MacKenzies possessed land in North Ballachulish; two at Onich; one in Glenshellach; two in Corriechurrachan, and one at Coruanan...
In the Lochiel Report for 1774 there were five MacKenzie tenants at North Ballachulish and their names are given as follows: "Donald McKenzie, Duncan roy McKenzie, John <cKenzie, Duncan McKenzie, and Donald McKenzie, ferryman." All paid 1 pound in rent with the exception of the ferryman, who had to pay 2.10/-. Each person appears to have had a lease for 21 years, which was up in 1777.'
In the baptismal register for North Ballachulish, 14 McKenzie males and 6 McKenzie females were baptised between 1774 and 1789."

I do have the Bygone Lochabor book, but it does not have information about my McKenzie family.

Many thanks for reading this,
Elizabeth
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: mgraemem on Monday 11 February 13 05:41 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth,

I don't know if this indicates an error in my data or the information you possess, but I found it interesting your note of the dates of one Duncan MacKenzie. It seemed an odd coincidence. Our Duncan MacKenzie, my great, great grandfather, was born December 20, 1821 in Ballachulish and left for Canada in 1843. He started out as a lock tender in the Wellington Square area of Ontario province, then moved to Kincardine, up the peninsula from Detroit, MI, USA. He then left the area in 1854 and headed west to British Columbia where he bought property in the Cloverdale area, now part of New Westminster and raised his family.

Here's a photo of him in his later years.

Good luck,

Martin
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Elsket on Monday 11 February 13 05:50 GMT (UK)
Many thanks, Martin.
    I know that Duncan went abroad, but I have not found him in any Australian records. If he went to Australia in the 1840's, one would think that his three sisters would join him, so that I thought he possibly went to Canada.
The sister, Margaret, who married John Campbell, took great care with the naming of her children and provided me with clues about what names to look for but it has still been a long process. Do you know the names of your Duncan's parents, or do the names of his children correspond to the names of the children of Angus and Betsy McKenzie? For example, there are very few men named Angus McKenzie born in Scotland so if your Duncan had a son named Angus, I would think it was quite likely he was from 'my' family.

Cheers,
Elizabeth
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: mgraemem on Tuesday 12 February 13 01:11 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth,

We had an Angus Adolphus MacKenzie who was of my great-grandfather's generation. My great, great, great grandparents names were Hugh and Margaret. No Betsys in our list at least. It looks like this is just coincidence unless more information surfaces.  :-)

Martin
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: abrach1 on Friday 22 February 13 12:27 GMT (UK)
If you can get hold of a book "Records of the Diocese of Argyll and The Isles" by Craven (published about 1907) there is a section in it that lists the old Episcopalian families of Onich and North Ballachulish. Quite a few MacKenzies mentioned in it.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: cathymay on Wednesday 29 May 13 10:50 BST (UK)
Hi

My great grandfather, Donald CAMERON was born at the South Ballachulish Inn 29 May 1822 (ha that's exactly 191 years ago today!) to Angus CAMERON and Christina MCINTYRE. Angus and Christina are buried on Eilean Munde. Angus was the Ferrymaster and Innkeeper at the time.

Donald came to Australia about 1850, and his sister Clementina came several years later.

I am interested in any information anyone can give me, particularly if any of the South Ballachulish Hotel was standing at that time? I know there is a small stone building on the left side of it that I am hoping was there back then. I contacted the hotel, but they were quite unhelpful at the time.

I do know Christina's ancestry, but am at a loss to find Angus'.

Many thanks in advance for any information!

Cathy
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: abrach1 on Wednesday 29 May 13 12:28 BST (UK)
Hi Cathy
the present Ballchulish Hotel was built around 1870 and was designed by the well known Inverness architect Alexander Ross. (Ross also designed Alltshellach House on the opposite side of Loch Leven which was the residence of Alexander Chinnery-Haldane, Bishop of Argyll and The Isles.)
Good luck with your Cameron research.
abrach1
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: hilarie on Tuesday 02 July 13 04:57 BST (UK)
Martin:  Googling Angus Adolphus McKenzie took me to this site.  I have been doing research of the Duncan McKenzie from Cloverdale, British Columbia. Duncan had a sister, Lilly who married a John Brooks in Ontario.  Their daughter was Kate Almira Brooks.  Kate's granddaughter just sent me an except from it which lists her uncles.

"I, Kate Almira Brooks was born Oct.31,1869 at our farm on Grovenor's Road at Village of Princeton (Dr.Benham) Brant County, Ontario, Canada, mother Lily Stuart MacKenezie, born in Ballachulish, Argylshire, Scotland. Grandmother died when my mother was an infant. There were four brothers: Hugh, Willliam, Dougall and Duncan. Grandfather came to Canada with his family of five. He had charge of the Suspension Bridge at Niagara for a time. I think he went from there to Burlington near Hamilton. Some of the boys moved to Kincardine to go fishing. Uncle Dougall lived in Hamilton,; he was an engineer in a foundry there. He used to visit us often. Uncle Duncan went to  BC when I was about ten years old, 1879. He named the place Clover Valley. I didn't know any of the others (uncles)."

With this information, plus the obituary of Duncan, I found the passenger list of the Perthsire for 1844.  It confirms that the five siblings were William (with wife), Duncan, Dougal, John and Lily. The father's name was Hugh.  As several descendants of those siblings were named John Hugh McKenzie, it seems likely that the John from the record and the Hugh from Kate's recording were the same person.  I found an 1841 Scotland census that lists the same siblings in Balachelich parish, Duror, Argyll.  The father's name was written as Ewe (the way the census taker heard it?) and the mother was Margaret.  I didn't find a death record for her, but she must have died between 1841 and 1844, which fits with what Lily told her daughter Kate.  Also, the 1851 Canada census that has the Isabella Anderson family (Duncan's wife) has a Hugh McKenzie, son Duncan and daughter Lilly living next door.

Kate's granddaughter wanted me to post this for other members of her family to see.

Hilarie 



Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: ljwallie on Saturday 07 September 13 06:07 BST (UK)
My great grandfather was Angus Adolphus MacKenzie. He was the son of Duncan and Isabella MacKenzie. He was born on Oct. 19, 1853 and died on Jan 30, 1935 in Mission, British Columbia, Canada, and was married to Agnes Rachel McKinley in Owen? Sound, Ontario, Canada.  He was a ships captain on the Great Lakes. He had one son, Charles Adolphus MacKenzie (my grandfather).
I know he was born in Ballachulish, Scotland, but am not sure when he came to Canada.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: scault on Wednesday 24 September 14 12:14 BST (UK)
Hello my name is sue,
I have ancestors from Appin, Ballachulish.
My x 3 great grandfather John Clark 1805 ish was one of the slate quarry workers as was his father John 1776.
John 1805 married a Catherine McDonald and his father John married a Ann McGregor. I was just wondering if there is anyone living in Ballachulish who has family from this time. i would love to find someone related it would be fantastic.  Can I ask please if there are ant photos of the quarry workers or names of them anywhere in the village.


                                             kind regards


                                              Sue
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 24 September 14 16:04 BST (UK)
Sue, a couple of websites for you,

http://www.durorandkentallen.co.uk

http://oldappin.com/

Skoosh
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: scault on Wednesday 24 September 14 22:10 BST (UK)
Thank you



              sue  :)
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Lizspiers on Friday 15 January 16 22:23 GMT (UK)
Hi from Western Australia,

I have a McKenzie/Mackenzie family who were in Onich near Ballachulish, and would welcome suggestions about where to proceed further to find information about family members, or their ancestors. I visited the Archives in Fort William a couple of years ago and found records of the family as tenants of Lochiel.

Angus McKenzie: possibly born in 1786 to William McKenzie and Kate McDonald. He died between 1844 and 1845 at Onich acc. to the Lochiel Estate records, which show that his eldest son Donald has taken over the tenancy of Tor Castle Farm "as heir of Angus McKenzie." Estate Records also show that Angus leased lands in several locations besides Tor Castle/Torcastle, including Salachill, as well as croft 9 at "Oanich" from about 1820. The 1841 Census has him as a 60 yo farmer, not born in the county. He is married to Betsy [Elisabeth McPherson: b 3 Jan 1793 Crathy Croy, Laggan to Alexander McPherson and Mary McDonald] who is 55 yo and not born in the County.

Angus and Betsy's children are:
1) Margaret McKenzie: b 1816, m John Campbell 1829-1830, migrated with him, their nine children, and two of her sisters to Australia 1855 on the Storm Cloud, d. Lilydale, Tasmania, Australia 4 Oct 1892.

2) Donald McKenzie: b abt 1818, 1841 - he is Ag Lab, not born in County, at Torcastle, 1844/5 - he is "heir of Angus McKenzie", d. 1852 - Tor Castle is handed to Thomas Paterson because Duncan McKenzie, heir of Donald McKenzie has "gone abroad".

3) Elisabeth McKenzie: b 7 Jun 1819 Strathmashie Laggan, 1841 - she is independent and living with her eldest sister, Margaret and family, at Loch Laggan Inn [Kinlochlaggan], 1855 - she migrated to Tasmania with two of her sisters, including Margaret, on the Storm Cloud.

4) Duncan McKenzie: b abt 1821, 1841 - he is a 20 yo Ag Lab, not born in the County, between 1841 and 1852 he goes "abroad". [Not found in Australian records]

5) Catherine McKenzie: b abt 1822, 1841 - she is a female servant, not born in the County, d abt 1886 Undated and unnamed newspaper clipping found among other family papers in Tasmania reads: McKENZIE-On the 23rd inst., Catherine, the daughter of the late Angus and Betsy McKenzie, of Torcastle, Argyleshire, Scotland, aged 65 years.

6) Isabella McKenzie: b 2 Jun 1825 Strathmashie Laggan, 1841 - she is a 15 yo servant at Wilton Melton or Milton, 1855 - she migrated to Australia with her two sisters on the Storm Cloud, d 4 Apr 1879 in Melbourne Australia.

7) John McKenzie: b abt 1820, 1845 - he takes over his fathers croft at Oanich "John McKenzie, son of Angus McKenzie, deceased." until 1865 [records for Lochiel Estate are not available after that date].

I have reliable sources for the information above, and have traced most of the descendants of Margaret and John Campbell's family, but would welcome more information and or advice, especially about Donald, John or Duncan's family. I have searched for their deaths using Scotland's People but have not found any conclusive data.

William Campbell was in Oanich at Martinmas 1786 when he and 5 other tenants [3 were Camerons, 1 Macmartin, 1 Mach--t] agreed on a yearly rent payable to Donald Cameron of Lochiel, so it is highly probably that William was the father of Angus McKenzie. BTW, not until after 1855 does Oanich become Onich in the Estate Records.

In case it helps others: in a written report I received from the Lochaber Archives in Fort William in 2010:
"In 1750, four MacKenzies possessed land in North Ballachulish; two at Onich; one in Glenshellach; two in Corriechurrachan, and one at Coruanan...
In the Lochiel Report for 1774 there were five MacKenzie tenants at North Ballachulish and their names are given as follows: "Donald McKenzie, Duncan roy McKenzie, John <cKenzie, Duncan McKenzie, and Donald McKenzie, ferryman." All paid 1 pound in rent with the exception of the ferryman, who had to pay 2.10/-. Each person appears to have had a lease for 21 years, which was up in 1777.'
In the baptismal register for North Ballachulish, 14 McKenzie males and 6 McKenzie females were baptised between 1774 and 1789."

I do have the Bygone Lochabor book, but it does not have information about my McKenzie family.

Many thanks for reading this,
Elizabeth

Elizabeth,
I am most interested in the information you have here, as I believe the John MacKenzie in the 1774 report of 5 MacKenzie tenants may be the father of one Ewen MacKenzie who was born in Onich, but lived Blarmachfoldach. I would very much appreciate knowing whether you have found any more information on these 5 tenants at this time.
Thank you
Liz
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: blogpiper on Sunday 12 June 16 12:57 BST (UK)
I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows of a John M(a)cKay — shoemaker, later quarrier — who married Catherine (Kate) M(a)cMillan of Kilmallie in 1824. Their home was 42 West Laroch.

He was my g-g-grandfather, and moved to Luing with a married daughter (Jane MacDonald) and two of his adult sons in the 1860s. His death certificate says he lived to the age of 90, but census records from 1841 onward would make him up to 10 years younger: therefore his birth date was probably in the range 1796 to 1806. He seems to have been born in Glasgow and has his father's occupation listed as "army pensioner" on the death certificate (1886). The army pensioner was also named John, and I'm interested to discover, among other things, if he was a Luing native who moved north, or someone with longer connections to Ballachulish.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 13 June 16 12:28 BST (UK)
A wee treat for you folks, from the "Highland Sessions", Karen Matheson singing Gleann Bhaile Chaoil, (Ballachulish Glen.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chFtbFPwFNw

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: scault on Thursday 06 October 16 13:36 BST (UK)
Sheden Hello,
My family name is Clark
They were all slate quarry worker living in Appin, Ballachulish. My grt grt grandfather James left Ballachulish in the 1850s after the 1851 census. I think some of the clark family left and worked in mines in Kent. it maybe they were McGregors and had to change their names after being outlawed. My james married a surrey lady in lambeth and went from being a railway porter to then a brewers drayman. Is there any documentation in the museum in appin about villagers leaving.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: 1bono on Thursday 19 January 17 10:12 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

My Macinnes ancestors were slate quarriers in East Laroch. My great grandfather (1848 - 1907) was also the captain of the steamship "Cona" that sailed up and down Loch Leven. The family lived at Quarry Gates. My  great uncle (Sandy) was the local barber in Ballachulish. He died in 1959.
Some names:

Archibald Macinnes=Catherine Macdonald
Peter Macinnes
Alexander
Donald
John
Mary

The family originally came from Appin, I would like to think that this Archibald was related to the Archibald Macinnes who took Red Colin Campbell across Loch Leven to his death at Lettermore (but this is perhaps a bit fanciful...)
 
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Monday 26 June 17 12:45 BST (UK)
Hi Cathy
the present Ballchulish Hotel was built around 1870 and was designed by the well known Inverness architect Alexander Ross. (Ross also designed Alltshellach House on the opposite side of Loch Leven which was the residence of Alexander Chinnery-Haldane, Bishop of Argyll and The Isles.)
Good luck with your Cameron research.
abrach1

Any idea when Alltshellach House was built?  It was Onich Military Hospital in WWII and trying to collect some background on the house.  Earlier reference I can find in newspapers is 1887 when Rev. Alexander Heriot Mackonochie died - the house name always appears as 'Aultshellach' at that time.

Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 26 June 17 13:40 BST (UK)
Hi Martin,

If you check VRs on SP (scotlandspeople) you will possibly find 'Alltshellach' albeit under different spellings i.e. if you only put shell or hellach & choose County Argyll this may help?

I found some but can't be sure if any are the same place but worth a look.

Annie
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 26 June 17 13:45 BST (UK)
Here's one listing it as a Hospital;

BROWN CHARLES
Inhabitant Occupier
MCKELVIE HOSPITAL GLENSHELLACH
KILMORE AND KILBRIDE
1913
VR006500007-

Annie
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Monday 26 June 17 14:23 BST (UK)
Hi Martin,

If you check VRs on SP (scotlandspeople) you will possibly find 'Alltshellach' albeit under different spellings i.e. if you only put shell or hellach & choose County Argyll this may help?

I found some but can't be sure if any are the same place but worth a look.

Annie

I had quick look on there a few days ago, will have another go.  I found a couple of lists of Ross's work but it was not included though it seems very likely because he did the church and house next door.

Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Catsalsus on Wednesday 18 July 18 13:32 BST (UK)
Hi

I live in Ballachulish and have set up a Facebook page called Glencoe and Ballachulish Genealogy, Ancestry and Family History please feel free to post your enquiry on there.  It is a new page so I'm working on getting more local people to sign up to it so they can answer any questions. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1519450044833703/
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Wednesday 18 July 18 14:03 BST (UK)
Sorry but not a Facebook user.
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Averydog on Tuesday 12 March 24 05:44 GMT (UK)
 I am actually just researching a trip in June that I am taking to Scotland. My Great Grandfather, Hugh MacInnes was from Ballachulish (shinty player and worked in the quarry). While going through some of his things, I found this photo. On the back it says August 4, 1924 To: Mrs Henry Nicol 232 Haight St San Francisco From A. McInnes 42 East Laroch Ballachulish East.   I tried to attach the picture but it keeps giving me an error message. 
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: sarah on Tuesday 12 March 24 19:11 GMT (UK)
Hello Averydog,

Welcome to RootsChat. The error message will normally give you a clue to what the problem is, try to rename it each filename has to be unique.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Tuesday 12 March 24 19:30 GMT (UK)
You can get large scale maps on the National Library of Scotland website (no charge or registration needed)

The 25 inch are usually the most useful but there are others

https://maps.nls.uk/series/

Map Series of Scotland:

    25 inch to the mile:
        Ordnance Survey, 25 inch to the mile, 1st edition - 1855-1882 - 14,735 sheets
        Ordnance Survey, 25 inch to the mile, 2nd and later editions - 1892-1949 - 17,466 map sheets
    Six-inch to the mile:
        Ordnance Survey, Six-inch to the mile, 1st edition - 1843-1882 - 2,123 sheets
        Ordnance Survey, Six-inch to the mile, 2nd and later editions - 1892-1960 - 7,486 map sheets

This the late 19th Century

https://maps.nls.uk/view/82863579





Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: oldtimer1955 on Wednesday 16 October 24 16:16 BST (UK)
Hello Moderator,

I am trying to contact Martin (Briscoe) about another project he was involved with:
https://www.airfieldresearchgroup.org.uk/forum/airfield-discussion/3104-raf-y-stations-etc-discussion-thread?start=100

Unfortunately their 'contact' does not work.


Many thanks,

David
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: sarah on Friday 18 October 24 17:52 BST (UK)
Hi David. Martin was online about 3 weeks ago he should pick up on your reply here to his post. Regards Sarah
Title: Re: Ballachulish
Post by: Martin Briscoe on Friday 18 October 24 19:23 BST (UK)
Hi David. Martin was online about 3 weeks ago he should pick up on your reply here to his post. Regards Sarah

Thanks I will send him a message direct.