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Title: James Hayward
Post by: AidanR on Sunday 25 May 08 08:11 BST (UK)
I'm looking for information concerning a James Hayward born cicrca 1849 in or around Canterbury. His wife was Susan Snow and one of their daughters was Olive Snow Hayward.

I am having trouble finding any information concerning his parents or indeed much about him save a couple of Census reports.

If anyone has any information on James Hayward or his ancestors I would love to hear from you.

THanks

Aidan  :)
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 25 May 08 08:30 BST (UK)
Does his 1876 Marriage Cert reveal a Father's name and occupation ?
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: suzard on Sunday 25 May 08 08:34 BST (UK)
I have him on 1881/91 and 01 census

What year census do you have??

Suz
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 25 May 08 08:39 BST (UK)
He first appears in 1871, boarding in Chelsea .....


no obvious BMD Index entry, so my usual approach of a remarried mother and James taking a stepfathers name until he was 'of age' may not apply .....
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: AidanR on Sunday 25 May 08 08:47 BST (UK)
I too found the 1871 Chelsea Census as well as the later ones of 1881 / 91 & 1901.

I could not find the year they were married. How did you find it? I tried Ancestry.co.uk but drew a blank although I'm not altogether sure i'm using it correctly.

Aidan
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: Necromancer on Sunday 25 May 08 09:25 BST (UK)
Marriages Mar 1876 

Hayward  James    B Stortford  Vol 3a Page 260    to    Snow  Susan   



from FreeBMD
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: AidanR on Sunday 25 May 08 14:31 BST (UK)
Thanks for that - I eventually found it on Genes Reunited and have asked for a copy to be posted to me.

Do you find Genes Reunited more user friendly than Ancestry.co.uk?

I find that Ancestry doesn't always filter the information very well.

Thanks for all your assistance,

Kind regards

Aidan
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: Necromancer on Monday 26 May 08 08:58 BST (UK)
As far as I was aware Genes Reunited is a forum, not genealogical resources ?

So what is being posted to you ?

The info above is all that you will see in an Index entry .... and enough to order the Certificate.

Ancestry takes the BMD Index transcriptions from FreeBMD - and is never as up to date - except for the full GRO Index resource.....

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: Valda on Monday 26 May 08 09:45 BST (UK)
Newfster

Genes Reunited has all the censuses indexed, cost to see 50 credits for 7 days. Plus civil registration for BMD quarterly index page images. Same for First and Second World War deaths. To see the index page images you need credits.

So as far as I can tell (haven't got any credits) what is coming by post could only be the page of the GRO quarterly index which FreeBMD has already produced the information for freely. The actual marriage certificate itself can only be obtained from the GRO

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

As Genes Reunited states

'At the current time, the General Register Office charges £7.00 per certificate. (Please note that the General Register Office is separate from Genes Reunited and Genes Reunited does not sell certificates).'

http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/GenesReunited.asp?WCI=grstatic&type=whatarerecords

FreeBMD

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

present coverage of the GRO index by FreeBMD

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progress.shtml


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: Necromancer on Monday 26 May 08 10:01 BST (UK)
Well, well ..... GR has certainly expanded its scope since I was there !


I assume the rest of the info is for AidanR ?


Regards, N
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: Valda on Monday 26 May 08 12:48 BST (UK)
Yes sorry I sort of added to it as I got going!!

Regards


Valda
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: Necromancer on Monday 26 May 08 13:23 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: casalguidi on Monday 26 May 08 14:19 BST (UK)
Although I'm not sure, am wondering about this one - a couple of years older than "your" James though :-\

1851 13 Fortune's Passage, St Mildred, Canterbury

Elizabeth COLLIS head unm 30 washerwoman b.Hereford
William son 13? b.Canterbury
Elizabeth dau 8 b.Canterbury
James H son 5 b.Canterbury
Annie H dau 3 b.Canterbury
Susannah H dau 1 b.Canterbury
William HAYWARD visitor mar 38 fisherman b.Lydden

HO107/1624 folio 245 page 12
.........................

1861

5 Fortune's Passage, Canterbury

Elizabeth COLLIS head unm 39 charwoman b.Risden? Hertfordshire
Elizabeth H dau 18 charwoman b.Canterbury
James H son 15 farm lab b.Canterbury
Ann H dau 13 b.Canterbury
Susanah H dau 11 b.Canterbury
William HAYWARD boarder 48 fish hawker b.Lydden

RG9/520 folio 63 page 18
.......................

The children were illegitimate with some appearing to have been registered as COLLIS and some HAYWARD and I couldn't see this James H (I assume the H to be for HAYWARD) as COLLIS in any cenus later than 1861 :-\

Hopefully, his marriage certificate will show some details for a father.

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: James Hayward
Post by: BettyofKent on Monday 26 May 08 14:56 BST (UK)
I've looked on the Canterbury Baptism Index,there's quite a few HAYWARDs in Canterbury but nothing for a James Hayward (or Haywood.)  I've also checked Heyward/Heywood, but nothing at all for that spelling.

Re Casalguidi's last post, I've noticed baptisms for 3 base-born children of Elizabeth - Elizabeth Hayward COLLIS, Sarah Susan COLLIS & Susannah Hayward COLLIS, so looks like the lodger was responsible for at least two children ;D

Betty