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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: carolwalden on Saturday 24 May 08 13:50 BST (UK)
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I am hoping someone can help me out with this one.
I have Alexander Watt born 1816 Fraserburgh married to Margaret Noble.
Margaret died before the 1851 census leaving behind Alexander and 3 children; Marjorie,Christina and Alexander.
Christina was my 2x gt grandmother.
Alexander was a fisherman and remarried to Magdalene Watt.
Regards
Carol
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Hi
I have (on SP) an Alexander Watt marrying a May Noble, Fraserburgh 22 October 1843
Then
21 July 1844 - Marjory to Alexander Watt and Marjory Noble
3rd Sept 1846 - Christian to Alexander Watt and May Noble
15 April 1849 - Alexander to Alexander Watt and May Noble
Can you verify the Margaret please?
Gadget
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I've just checked the 1851 census and it has Alexander as married not widowed* - could it just be that Margaret/May/Marjory was away from the household on census night?
Gadget
* double checked and I'd read the previous entry of a John Watt. Alexander was a widower :-[
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On the 1861, we have:
Fraserburgh 196 ED 4
Alexander Watt, 46, Fisherman, b. Fraserburgh
Magdalene, 31
Margaret R, 11
Charles, 9,
Mary, 7
Alexander, 2
Magdalene, 2
All born Fraserburgh
Margaret would have been b. circa 1850 but is not on the 1851 census with the family you have.
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Alexander died in 1882, aged 66. His parents were Alexander Watt and Margaret, maiden surname Mitchell. Only Magdalene is mentioned on his death cert.
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The birth cert of Magadene, b. 1857 has her mother's maiden name as Magdalene Watt. Alexander was the informant. No marriage date given :(
Still not getting anything definite on the 1841 for a Marjory/May or Margaret Noble :(
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The birth cert of Isabella Watt, b. 1868 shows that Magdalene Watt and Alexander married April 10th 1851, Fraserburgh. .
Gadget
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The marriage cert of Marjory Watt, 1869, Rathven, Banff to John Grant, shows her mother's maiden name as Marjory, m.s.Noble. Father Alexander Watt.
I think Christian's mother's name was probably Marjory - maybe May but not Margaret.
Gadget
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Ah, we;re getting somewhere :D
1871
37 Shore Street, Fraserburgh
196 ED 1
Alexander Noble, 39, fisherman
Elizabeth, 40, fisherman's wife, b. Aberdeen
Elizabeth A , 10,
Jean, 7,
Christian F, 3,
Margaret Watt, cousin, 17, servant (domestic) (I think she was showing as 11 in 1861)
Apart from Elizabeth, all born Fraserburgh. So if Margaret and Alexander were cousins, then Marjory would be the sibling of Alexander's father - I think!
Gadget
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I think this might be cousin Alexander in 1851 with his parents:
Braeheads, Fraserburgh
196 ED 1 Page 37
Alexander Noble, 44, fisheman & pilot
Jeanet, 33,
Alexander, 20, seaman
Charles, 15, seaman
David, 8,
Joseph, 8
Robert Gordon, lodger, 31, seaman, b. Houston, Renfrew
Catherine Gordon, lodger, 7, b. Fraserburgh
All of the Noble family born Fraserburgh.
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Alexander Noble (senior on the 1851) died in 1868, Broadsea, Fraserburgh. His parents are shown as Andrew Noble and Margaret Mason. This corresponds with the bpt on the IGI (extracted):
19 Nov 1806, Fraserburgh
There is a fair chance that these are Marjory's parents but definitely close kin.
Gadget
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Thank you so much Gadget ;D
I found Alexander and Margaret on Christina and George Wilson`s marriage certificate. I was then helped out by another family member who discovered that Alexander had remarried after Margaret's death.
I only have a daughter from this second marriage, this being Magdalene born in 1859 Fraserburgh.
I was given the marriage date of Alexander and Margaret, 22/10/1843.
Regards
Carol
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Hello Carol,
It sounds like we are barking up the same tree! Marjory Watt b 1844 in Fraserburgh is my great grandmother and yes she married John Grant in Rathven in 1869. Have found no information on Alexander b 1849 and assume he died between 1851 and 1859. Alexander (sr) married Magdalene Watt (his distant cousin) after Marjory's death and went on to have more children. The Margaret you mention is Magdalene's daughter by George Reid born 1850 prior to her marriage to Alexander and the marriage date of October 22, 1843 is for Alexander Watt and Marjory (May) Noble.
So glad to finally have a connection to Christina.
MAWATT
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Hi Carol
My great grandmother was also Marjory Watt Christian's sister. I always thought Christian had died and its good to know the family survived. I would be happy to share info with you.
My aunt told me that their parents names were Alexander Watt and Marjory Noble. The 'May' was an abbreviation which carried down through our family. What happened to Christian after she married George Wilson?
Hope to hear soon
Ros