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Title: Age on certificate
Post by: Sunshinejack on Wednesday 21 May 08 13:44 BST (UK)
Hi there,
I hope its ok to post this here.
I finally received one of my marriage cert's yesterday for my Barlow family but for the first time I noticed that in the age block it just says "full".
What exactly does this mean? That they were of age to be married but noone wanted to put their age down??
Just curious. I havent come across this before.
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: casalguidi on Wednesday 21 May 08 13:47 BST (UK)
Hi Jack

Yes, it means that they were (or supposedly) over 21 thus not needing the consent of parents to marry ;)

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: behindthefrogs on Wednesday 21 May 08 14:33 BST (UK)
According to the instructions for filling out marriage certificates, the words "of full age" should may be entered if they are age 21 (now 18) or over.  To have an age over 21 on the certificate means that it was filled in incorrectly.  Similarly someone of under 21 may be entered as  "minor"

Sorry I should check my facts instead of working from memory.

David
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 21 May 08 14:37 BST (UK)
As far as the GRO was concerned the age of the parties was of great statistical importance, in order that the gross numbers of both sexes marrying at different ages could be ascertainable for each year.
The precise age of each of the parties, at his of her last birthday, was supposed to be inserted whenever they could be ascertained, but if either of the parties was unable or unwilling to state his or her precise age the words "of full age" i.e. over 21, or "minor" or the aproximate age could be recorded.

Stan
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 21 May 08 14:40 BST (UK)
Just to be clear I'm referring to the 19th and early 20th centuries not what is the practice today  :)

Stan
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 21 May 08 14:42 BST (UK)
strictly speaking - of full age  means 21 and over


Not over 21.


I have seen manyy Certs where an exact age is shown, so I dont see why that is incorrect .....  ::)
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 21 May 08 14:48 BST (UK)
If they were 21 years of age at their last birthday then they are over 21 years of age  :) 21 years and 1 day is over 21, or is it not  ???

Stan
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 21 May 08 15:15 BST (UK)
it is indeed.  :P

But I think you'll find that most people will regard being 'over 21' as 22 onward and upward etc.

Pedantry seems to be catching sometimes

 ;) 8)
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: Sunshinejack on Thursday 22 May 08 14:12 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone for all your insight. :)
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: JAP on Friday 23 May 08 08:42 BST (UK)
Just to add to the pedantry ...

The above was the case in England & Wales but not in Scotland.

The legal age for marriage was different in Scotland, and parental consent was not needed.

JAP
Title: Re: Age on certificate
Post by: matty01 on Saturday 24 May 08 09:11 BST (UK)
I hate it when there is no age mentioned, especially when I am looking for clues as to age, and that is the main reason for getting the cert.  I assume most times that people in the 1800s were 20ish when they married, but of course if they are listed as 'widower' (or widow) then that can change dramatically. Any clues from experienced family searchers?
Chris