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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: tigerbelle on Saturday 17 May 08 04:19 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Can anyone help me with the following:
My Great Grandfather Percy James Millan McCance is a mystery man, I know he is on the Australian Electoral role but I cannot access this at present. I was trying to find his occupation and date of birth
Thanks in advance for your assistance
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In 1914.....Maribyrnong Essendon
Percy James Millan McCance 80 Fletcher St Essendon Prod. Mcht.
Edith Mary McCance 80 Fletcher St Essendon Home Duties
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In 1919 they are living at 167 Moore St Moonee Ponds and Percy is a Traveller
1924 - 23 Shaftesbury St Essendon, Percy is an Insurance Inspector
1931 (as 1924)
1936 (same details as above for Percy but a couple of other names
Aubrey William McCance, Draftsman
Kenneth Lording McCance, Accountant
Cazay
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1909, Moore St Moonee Ponds
Percy - Produce Merchant
Edith Mary - Home Duties
If you put a post on the Emigrants to Australia board someone who has the Vic birth indexes should be able to find his birth details. That is if he was born in Australia or maybe he married in Vic.
Cazay
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Death Percy James McCance father Robt Millan mother Mary Greenwood Place Edon age 74 1952 ref 14605
Approx birth 1878
from the AVRI :)
Percy James Mill McCance father Robert Millan Mother Mary Greenwood Place Hoth 1878 ref 16684
Trish
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Siblings
Ada Millan 1874 21574 Place The Loddon
Donald Millan 1876 13742X no place given
William George G 1882 3422 father given as Robert William, mother Mary Greenwood - I would think the same family
Trish
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Percy Jas Millan MCCANCE born Melb W married Edit Mary LORDING born Melb North 1902 3837
There is one child, if you want any more information, please ask - I'm thinking you have the later generation
Trish
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I have the marriage for Robert and Mary on the AVRI - but it only gives one birthplace - someone with the Vic early CD should be able to give both birthplaces
Robert McCance married Mary Greenwood 1873 ref 4692 - one of them born Yorkshire
I will see if I can trace Mary to find her parents. I don't see a birth for Robert in Victoria. There is one in 1852 for a Mary Ann Greenwood
Trish
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William George died age 25 1907 ref 8692 Place Hoth W parents Robt Mellan Mccance and Mary Greenwood
Robt Millan died aged 67 1915 ref 10570 Place Newport father Jno Mccance mother Agnes Mcleod
Mary McCance died aged 84 1938 ref 5672 Place Ascot Vale father David Greenwood mother Nanny Unknown
looking for a birth for Mary -
I don't see Mary, but lots of siblings - parents Given as David Greenwood and Annie, Nanny, Nancie and Nann Murgatroyde. They may have emigrated after Mary was born
George Murgatroyde 1861
Violetta 1863
John 1865
Albert Spence 1867
Annie Matilda 1869
David 1871
Ada Selina 1873
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Not sure about husband David, but Nanny and Mary appear to have arrived in 1858
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24
GREENWOOD NANNY 27 AUG 1858 AFRICA 11A 210
Mary is showing on another page - a little strange, then there is
GREENWOOD 002 CHILDREN WITH C AUG 1858 AFRICA 11A 210
Trish
Edit: This may be Robert and family
MCCANCE ROBERT 4 FEB 1853 MARION MOORE B 030 012
John 38
Agnes 39
Thos 13
Alexd 11
Martha 6
Robert 4
William 2
Angus 1
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I can't find the McCance family in England/Scotland - which may be my bad searching or it may be they came from Ireland. I am having better luck with the Greenwood family
From FreeBDM
Marriages Mar 1850
Greenwood David Bradford Y. 23 239 on the same page
Murgatroyd Nanny
So this would be the family from Yorkshire :)
There are many many births in Yorkshire for a Mary Greenwood - no indication on the index which may be the right Mary.
1851 Census Yorkshire Heaton HO107/2312 124/12
Jer Lane
David Greenwood head mar 21 Flag Facer (mason) Yorks Heaton
Nancy Greenwood wife Mar 20 " wife do do
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Wow thanks all for those prompt responses, you have all certainly helped me tremendously.
Trish you have come up with some wonderful information and I will look at it and connect all the dots.
Once again thanks and happy hunting!
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I asked a friend to check the birthplaces on the marriage
Robert's birthplace is shown as DOWN.
Mary's birthplace is shown as YORKSHIRE
So I would think the McCance family came from County Down in Ireland. The immigration records would probably confirm or correct this.
Trish
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Trish,
That's the right family listed on the "Marion Moore" although Thomas (13) & Alexander (11) were actually McMillans (from the first marriage of Agnes, 39) and my g grandmother (Agnes Ann Duggan 1852-93) was listed as "Angus (1)". Others in the extended family on the "Marion Moore" passenger list were the older McMillans, Hamilton (wife & daughter), John & wife, James & Nathaniel. Only Hamilton & John & their families sailed on the "Marion Moore" though. The McCances & the four younger McMillans sailed later on the "Confiance" which was quarantined at the heads on arrival at Port Phillip. I don't know what happened to gg granny's left arm though and why she fudged her age down and John (1819-1907) fudged his up, perhaps she felt guilty about being a cradle snatcher!
Ian
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Hi Ian
Welcome to Rootschat - I'm sure tigerbelle will be most interested in all your information - but she hasn't been online at RC for awhile (if you click on her name, you can check). Hopefully she will get a notice re your posting so do hope you get in contact with each other
Trish
PS lovely to see Agnes smiling in her photo - I have some from the times & most of the women would never let a smile be seen :)
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Yes Trish, they didn't have much to smile about then, being mainly baby factories and having to wear all that clobber. Perhaps she's smiling because it'll be all-over soon. Or perhaps another of her 66+ grandchildren (I'm still counting, but like the UK BDM-indexes, WA's are quite challenging, but no censuses to help) had just arrived, and she's thinking "thank God I'm past all that". The paper reported the cause of her daughter's (Agnes Duggan) death as "exhaustion on her accouchement" and that was after her twelth.
Ian