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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northumberland => England => Northumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: cavvytri on Friday 16 May 08 09:38 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find out where to look for the parents of Elizabeth Bellaney. I have her on the 1841 census as Billaney, age 13, and it looks like she is working on a farm or in service at Bockenfield near Morpeth. I know she was born at Felton as she gives this in all the censuses, but there are no other Bellaney's Billaneys that I can see. Can another pair of eyes help please? Or point me in the right direction.
In the 51, 61, 71, 81 and 91 census she is married to Charles Coombs and lives in Blyth and then Ashington.
I would love to know who her parents were and any siblings.
Thankyou
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I have found her marriage reference on freebmd. If you got the certificate it should have her father on.
Mar 1847
BILLANEY Elizabeth Tynemouth 25 358
BILLANY Elizabeth Tynemouth 25 358
Coombs Charles Tynemouth 25 358
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:) Thankyou Tracy I will send for that certificate! Thanks again
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Also, have a look again at the census records.
In 1841 there's a Billany family in Cowpen, Horton, father Robert, mother Margaret. They are still in Cowpen in 1851 as Bellany (Robert & Mary), and again in 1861 (just as Margaret).
Some of the names in the family reflect those of Elizabeth's children - Robert, Margaret, William and Ralph (there's a Ralph listed in 1841).
Given the locality, it might be the right people.
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Hi! I'm new to this so please bear with me. I see that you have been looking for Elizabeth Bellaney and have already found some answers. I, too, am looking for her with interest and curiosity as I have been researching the Coombes family and know that Elizabeth was the mother of Robert Coombes, my great grandfather. Robert was, I believe, the eldest son of Charles and Elizabeth Coombes. Robert went to Australia in 1879 but is found, in the 1871 census, living in Blyth with his grandmother, Margaret. Unfortunately, I know nothing about Elizabeth other than the information given in the 1841 census. Perhaps you could help me out? Thanks, in anticipation
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:) Hi Kagga, good to hear from you and it looks like we are related as my great grandmother was Mary Jane Coombs, your great grandfathers sister.
I am still looking for Elizabeth Bellaney too.I will have to get that marriage cert to find out for sure who her parents were. She died on May 20th 1889 aged 64, and her husband Charles Coombs died 13th September 1904 aged 84.Charles was born in Andover, Hampshire. They are buried in the churchyard of the Parish church of the Holy Sepulchre, in Ashington, Northumberland, along with their son in law Robert Dalrymple (my great grandfather) husband of Mary Jane Coombs. As yet I don't know when or where Mary Jane (your great grandfathers sister -my great grandmother) died but i presume she will be in the same grave, though I will have to look into that. They have quite a large headstone.
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Hi cavvytri ! It's good to hear from you! Yes, we do have the same relations. I have Mary Jane on my family tree and I know, from the census, that she married the Dalrymples. I'm delighted that you tell me the name of the churchyard where she is buried as I was about to search Ashington cemeteries near to Ninth Row where Charles last lived in order to 'tidy-up' some of my loose ends! I've been tracing the Coombes for some time now and am in contact with the Australian side of Robert's family. Now I know where I am with that strand I thought I'd find out more about Elizabeth and Charles. I'm having problems finding out more about Charles' past. I know he was born in Andover, Hampshire and that his father was called William. His father's occupation was husbandman. However, I can't get any further than that. We do need that marriage cert. or a visit to Hampshire! Are you getting the cert. or shall I? Is there anything I can help you with at all? Are you local or have you moved away from Northumberland?
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:) Hi Kagga
I still live in Ashington. I will PM you with my email address which might be easier.
:D
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Hi cavvytri ! As I said, I'm new to this and am not sure sure what you mean when you say you'll PM your email address but I'm sure it will be handy. I went to the Holy Sepulchre cemetery yesterday but without success....I think I'll need your help! Looking forward to hearing from you.
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There is a comprehensive burial register for the Holy Sepulchre held in the church building ?, on the corner opposite the cemetery main entrance. (Station Rd/Wansbeck Rd)
Michael Dixon
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Many thanks, Michael! I have discovered a long lost third cousin who lives locally and knows the place well! Hopefully we'll tie it up soon. Thanks again. Wendy
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Hi Cav and Kavva I`ve just found this site and came across this post on Roots regarding Elizabeth Billany. Elizabeth Billany and Charles Coombs were my husbands Great Great Grandparents. His Great Grandfather was Charles Coombs born 1867 in Cowpen. I noticed you mentioned that Charles and Elizabeth Coombs together with their Son in law Robert Dalrymple were buried in the holy seplicar in Ashington and wondered if you had found them as my husband went in search and has found them so can help either of you out with a photo of the headstone. I wondered how far you had come in your search with Elizabeth Billany as there dosen`t appear to be any birth records. I have the parents and siblings of Charles Coombs if you would like any info. Susan
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Hi Susan, good to hear from you. Charles Coombs was my great great grandad as well. His daughter Mary Jane coombs married Robert Dalrymple, and my grandma was their daughter Anna Bell Dalrymple. All I know of this Charles was that he was born in Andover in Hampshire. I have a photo of the gravestone thank you.
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Hi Thankyou for your reply. A distant relative of my husband is studying geneology and he gave me some information about Charles Coombs born 1820 in Andover Hampshire. His fathers name was William Coombs born 1887 in Minstead, Hamphire, his mothers name Elizabeth(maiden name unknown) born 1791 in Minstead Hampshire. His siblings were Jobe Coombs born 1831 in Dorset, Thomas Coombs born 1834 in Dorset and Bridget Coombs born 1837 in Dorset.
All I have concerning Elizabeth Billany is what you have probably pieced together yourself. I think Robert and Margaret Billaney were her parents. Robert was born in Whittingham and Margaret in Longframlington both from around the same area as Elizabeth. I dont know if you came across the 1851 census where Roberts name seems to have been mispelt and named Bellang, Mary which probably should have said Margaret together with William and James who were both born in Felton which Elizabeth date and place of birth would fit nicely. However there is also an Eliza Bellang born 1845 but I wonder if she is a grand daughter and not a daughter. What is even more unusual is on the 1851 census with Charles and Elizabeth Coombs a niece is staying with them called Elizabeth Bellang aged 7. I feel like I`m going round in circles with Elizabeth Billany lol ::) Susan
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I am sorry to say that Kagga (Wendy's) emails are no longer working :'( we have not been able to notify her of these new replies.
Regards
Sarah