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Title: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: dblun on Wednesday 14 May 08 02:39 BST (UK)
Wondering ... Anyone heard of Berwick Moor Farm, near Eglington I think. Would it have extended into Berwickshire, Scotland? Anyone know where I might find some history. Seems my William Black was the shepherd there in 1829 , moving along to High Barton by 1841.
Any info  :D ;D
Dorothy
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: peter brownlee on Thursday 15 May 08 21:50 BST (UK)
I think it is probably Old and New Bewick near Eglingham. Bewick Moor is the site of a remote shepherd's cottage called Blawearie. It occupies part of the long ridge of high ground between the Cheviot massif and the sea coast.  At the time your forebear was there, it would belong to the Baker Creswell family of Harehope Hall in the lower ground of the Beamish valley.
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: dblun on Friday 16 May 08 00:10 BST (UK)
Peter
Thank you so much for the information. Seems my fingers went walking and added a letter. ::)
Now Its back to research ..family farm etc.
Is it possible to visit the shepherd's cottage?  Hubby and I just might be in the area near the end of July !
Thanks again
Dorothy
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: peter brownlee on Friday 16 May 08 10:06 BST (UK)
It's a very long time since I was that way. There was just a steep cart track for about a mile up from the road at Old Bewick. It is a public right of way and a popular walking area nowadays. In my time if you saw anyone else in the distance, you took another route.
The other possibility was Edrington Mains which does indeed run up to the border line where that encircles Berwick upon Tweed, but it is on the Scottish side and I don't know of any Berwick Moor there, while on the map there doesn't seem enough room for a sheep farm.
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: dblun on Friday 16 May 08 17:01 BST (UK)
Thanks again Peter
With the info you gave me,I have found some walks in the area.. and even some pictures of the ruins of the shepherd's cottage!!
This all stems from a newspaper advertisement in the 1829 Newcastle Courant about the farm being available To Let and that the shepherd, William Black would show the property. As my 3xgt grandfather ( born in Scotland) was of the same name and same occupation living in the same area, I am 'thinking' there might be a connection. I don't think its a 'wild stretch'!

Maybe if I'walk' there I'll feel the 'vibrations' ;D
Besides , now I am REALLY curious.
Thanks again
Dorothy
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: trev123 on Monday 22 October 12 16:46 BST (UK)
Dorothy - William Black is my Great, Great, Great, Great Grandfather. I have evidence that William was employed as a Shepherd on the Eslington Estate, near Whittingham at least from 1830. I recommend that you obtain a book on the internet titled Whittingham Vale, by David Dippie Dixon which was written in 1895. It refers to the history of the area and is well researched. William with 6 other families were living at High Barton. High Barton was demolished in the early 20th century. The family also lived at Middle Barton and Rothill. The latter was where the estate farm was based. I am interested in the period prior to 1830 and the reference to Berwick Moor Farm is interesting as the first born William was born in Wooler.     
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: dblun on Wednesday 31 October 12 20:15 GMT (UK)
Thanks Trev
I am sending a private e-mail with a query to you.

Meanwhile the info about the estate etc. is GREAT!
Dorothy
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: sillgen on Thursday 01 November 12 10:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Trev123 and welcome
In order for our personal message system to work you need to make at least one more post.  Reply to this and with luck it will work.  You click on the green scroll under the user name.  If by any chance Dorothy's message got through to you that would be interesting to know but I think you will not be able to reply to it.
Andrea
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: trev123 on Thursday 01 November 12 11:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Trev123 and welcome
In order for our personal message system to work you need to make at least one more post.  Reply to this and with luck it will work.  You click on the green scroll under the user name.  If by any chance Dorothy's message got through to you that would be interesting to know but I think you will not be able to reply to it.
Andrea
Many thanks Andrea for your assistance. I have only received one message but not the follow up that was promised.
Regards
Trevor
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: Phodgetts on Thursday 01 November 12 11:41 GMT (UK)
Please can you tell me which families are mentioned in Dixon's book. I have my Johnson family living in Whittingham and Callaly and my great aunt who died quite recently told me that when she was 9 her father showed her a book which made mention of their family. I have been trying to track it down without success thus far.

Philip
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 01 November 12 13:36 GMT (UK)
Though not available online (copyright restrictions), the following link allows you to search within the book to see if the name you are interested in appears. It then gives page numbers, so perhaps if someone has a copy it would make it easier to ask for a look up?

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101073333088

Boo
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: Phodgetts on Thursday 01 November 12 14:48 GMT (UK)
Thank you Boo, very tantalising. Johnson name is mentioned on pages 15 and 18 according to the link you sent.

Hopefully when I am up in Alnwick in a couple of weeks I will be able to take a sneak at one of the copies at the bookshop within the old station. Provided of course that the copy they did have has not been sold!

Cheers

Philip

PS Just had a look, and they have 7 of the book in stock, but not one below £130  :'(
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: trev123 on Thursday 01 November 12 18:16 GMT (UK)
Thank you Boo, very tantalising. Johnson name is mentioned on pages 15 and 18 according to the link you sent.

Hopefully when I am up in Alnwick in a couple of weeks I will be able to take a sneak at one of the copies at the bookshop within the old station. Provided of course that the copy they did have has not been sold!

Cheers

Philip

PS Just had a look, and they have 7 of the book in stock, but not one below £130  :'(

My wife bought the book from a seller on EBay.  It is not an original print which may be why the ones that you have seen are so expensive.  However it is a hard back and published in 1979 and cost approx £30.  As far as I am aware it is a full version of the original publication of 1895.  Trevor
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: dblun on Saturday 03 November 12 17:16 GMT (UK)
I just ordered the book through betterworldbooks.com at a reasonable price. Maybe they have more!
Dorothy
Title: Re: Berwick Moor Farm
Post by: dblun on Saturday 03 November 12 17:50 GMT (UK)
Trevor
Have tried again with e-mail. Let me know if you got this one !!
Dorothy