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Hi rootschat
anything on Mary Quinn Publican and John McCarthy farmer
queensland.cannot find their marriage so presume migrated.
Their daughter Clara born ipswich 1847 (about)my ggg grandmother
Thank you liz
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Liz - I can't see Clara's birth on Qld bdm. Have searched from 1840-1850. Perhaps I should pack it in for the night ;D ;D It is Ipswich Qld and not England [as it was then]
cando
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Hi cando
I too will have to go but yes its queensland.there is a brother i think he is john born 1845..will try to find out more on that tomorrow.
Liz
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Nothing for McCarthy before 1854 on the Qld Indexes. Wonder what year civil registrations were introduced. If before then may only be baptism records. Don't know much about Qld....should make an effort....tomorrow ;D
Cheers
cando
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Hi cando
Yes there is a baptism on Clara what i would like is anything on John (father) mary Quinn (mother)
I was hoping i did not have to pay to get baptism but it looks like i do.I was charged $25 to tell me yes there is a baptism then asked for another $ 25 for the document .
Have marriage on Clara aged 16yrs in 1863.
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Hi cando
Yes there is a baptism on Clara what i would like is anything on John (father) mary Quinn (mother)
I was hoping i did not have to pay to get baptism but it looks like i do.I was charged $25 to tell me yes there is a baptism then asked for another $ 25 for the document .
Have marriage on Clara aged 16yrs in 1863.
Liz where did you enquire about Clara's baptism...that seems a bit pricey.
Do you have Clara's marriage cert ? In which state did Clara marry - can't see anything in Qld in 1863.
Cheers
Cando
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Civil registration in Qld started at separation (I think) 1859. The records prior to that are church records and are on the NSW bdm (location Moreton Bay) as well as on the Qld list. Thus if on the bdms you can get a copy for $10 from a NSW transcription agent.
Trish
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hi cando
had to go searching when i got home.Genealogy of queensland inc.
details of your search John 5 /10/1845.
clara bap.21/7/1847 reg 1854 bp1407(dont know what this no is)
both were the children of john and mary mccarthy
(mcCarty on index.)
these are available on queensland reg.
letter sent research officer.
that is what the charge was for do you think i could get it cheaper.
Liz
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forgot to tell you Clara married William Faux 1863 at Forbes
William was born in 1833 VDL did have another thread for him as i cannot find his birth.Father farmer John Faux.
on marriage cert.
liz
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forgot to tell you Clara married William Faux 1863 at Forbes
William was born in 1833 VDL did have another thread for him as i cannot find his birth.Father farmer John Faux.
on marriage cert.
liz
Liz here is the thread on William FAUX
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,271313.0.html
I was curious where you had to pay $25 to be told there was a baptism for Clara and then another $25 to have a copy. Seems a tad pricey to me but then I have no experience in this area.
Trish251 is terrific with info from Qld...and other places :)
No wonder I couldn't find them as McCARTHY if they were indexed McCARTY :-\
Will get back to this thread later. Off to bed. Bit crook with a flu like virus.
Cheers
cando
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Dear cando
yes it was pricy that is why i felt i wouldnt send for the cert.
i was disgusted i sent the money on the idea i was getting the baptism cert. and received the letter with that info giving me the address to send for the cert. :o
liz
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dear trish
now i have found the 2 registrations myself being confused with the spelling .It is mearnt to be McCarthy or i have found macarthur as well
Now can i get the Cert. for $10 in queensland BDM. I wonder why i was asked for $25 i wish i could show you the letter It was 2006.would that make any difference were they more then?
Liz
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I assume this is them in NSW
V18473897 64/1847 MCCARTY CLARA JOHN MARY
V18462152 63/1846 MCCARTY JOHN JOHN MARY
Looking at the AVRI the parish is given as
Moreton Bay (Qld), Roman Catholic
I believe these early church records from NSW are available at state libraries and genealology centres - have to admit I have never checked, but someone on RC has mentioned same. Transcripts from NSW would be about $10 each.
Trish
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dear trish
now i have found the 2 registrations myself being confused with the spelling .It is mearnt to be McCarthy or i have found macarthur as well
Now can i get the Cert. for $10 in queensland BDM. I wonder why i was asked for $25 i wish i could show you the letter It was 2006.would that make any difference were they more then?
Liz
You CANNOT get a Qld certificate for $10, but because Qld was part of NSW in 1846 and 1847 - until 1859, the records were maintained by NSW. Hence you can use one of the NSW transcription agents and it will be the SAME information that you would get from Queensland. As I said above, you can probably get them from a library for no charge! Are you in Brisbane? You could check the online index for the state library.
Trish
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I had a quick look myself and the NSW church records to 1856 are at the Qld State library on fiche
http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/word_doc/0017/53018/Aus_ParishRecords1.doc
New South Wales
Church records are available on microfilm for the period until 1856 and are indexed in the NSW Pioneer Index 1787-1888 on fiche, CD-ROM and online at http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm. NSW included Port Phillip until 1851 and Moreton Bay until 1859.
Trish
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Thank you trish i will try my library ;D
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Dear Trish I cant believe they were in the NSW i have never looked as i thought it would be queensland.
Liz
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Dear Trish I cant believe they were in the NSW i have never looked as i thought it would be queensland.
Liz
They are in BOTH Liz :) As I said, until 1859 Qld was part of NSW. Next year is an anniversary party for 150 years of Queensland. The Qld Fam History Soc is looking for stories about pre separation Queenslanders (your folks certainly fit this) for the celebration
http://www.qfhs.org.au/preseparation.htm
Trish
Here are the Qld index records, which give the date and mother's maiden surname. Interesting that they weren't added to the register until 1854
Mccarty John Baptism John Mary Quinn 5 Oct 1845 1854/BP1407
McCarty Clara Baptism John Mary Quinn 21 Jul 1847 1854/BP1451
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Dear Trish
I will try to come up with a story but i do not know anything of these ancestors .That is why i have asked rootschat.
When i ask about a person its because i have got to them and hit a wall.I know nothing of John Mccarthy and his wife but i will keep searching.I have searched the lists of publicans for Mary Quinn with no luck.
Liz
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It certainly isn't compulsory to write a story :) - but if you could find Mary Quinn and her hotel that could be an interesting story in itself - good luck with the searching
Trish
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Dear Trish
Yes i agree the story on the hotel would be fantastic couldnt Mary tell some stories if she could . ::) liz
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Hi Liz and Trish. My name is Mark and I am related to John McCarthy and Mary Quinn. I too have been hunting for information about John and Mary. I have a death certificate for Mary in 1860 (and her birth information) and believe John was born about 1818 (according to one of his son's birth records). His occupation has been listed as a carpenter or miner in various records. Do you have any further information about John or Mary such as John's birthplace, marriage, death etc? Liz - how did you know that Mary was a publican and John a farmer? Would be interested in sharing any information, certificates etc.
Thanks
Mark
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Hello all,
Mary nee Quinn was residing in the Elliott's Hotel when she died in 1860, it was owned by E Elliott, if you do a Trove search with the name of the hotel and the address listed on Mary's funeral notice, you will find out more on it.
To whoever has the death record for Mary in 1860, can you tell us all what is on it please.
According to the funeral notice, she was the wife of the late John McCarthy of Shoalhaven, which means he was already deceased (I found a reference in the Illawarra Mercury (Wollongong, dated 15 Dec 1859, page 2, says left wife and 4 children). If these are correct, then who looked after the children of which only 2 I have been able to verify.
For those who have not been here awhile, these are ancestors of one of my great aunts children born in Qld.
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Hi there,
Some further researching similar names :) :
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=664420.0
JM