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Title: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: lorna llan on Saturday 10 May 08 15:07 BST (UK)
I have a family living at 33 Russell St West in Glasgow in 1851. I can't find this on any map. I have some information that says Russell St West was later changed to Wemyss St--can't find that either. In the 1901 census, there are a lot of households at Wemyss Place, Blythswood district, St Stephen civil parish. Don't know if that is the same place.
Can anyone help me with this?
  I have been using a very good 1894 map on the web
http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/scottishhistory/nls/maps/glasgow.asp

but would like to hear if anyone know of any very detailed (Zoomable and printable) older map.
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: RJ_Paton on Saturday 10 May 08 15:31 BST (UK)
The Rename Street Index at http://www.douglasbrown.co.uk/stindex.html lists 2 Russell Streets .... one in Calton and one in Govan ....

Given that Calton is in the east end of the City and Govan in the Southwest this would appear to make it more likely that your Russell Street West was the one in Govan.

As regards Wemyss Place this was a street in the central area of Glasgow and was separate from both of the aforementioned districts.

You mentioned finding Russell Street West in the 1851 census - which District was it listed under ? 

Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: RJ_Paton on Saturday 10 May 08 15:41 BST (UK)
Wemyss Street was in Cowcaddens just north of the current city centre area but that whole area was subject to considerable "redevelopment" in the late 1960's when the M8 motorway was built  but it is not anywhere near either Calton or Govan where the 2 Russell Streets were to be found.

That said, that part of the Cowcaddens would probably have come under Blytheswood District at some point for the earler census records.

Wemyss Place and Wemyss Street are the same place and this street once ran off of Cambridge Street in Glasgow.

Images of Wemyss Street in the 60's can be seen at  The Virtual Mitchell Library Site (http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/index.php?a=street&s=item&key=rYToxOntpOjA7czo5OiJXZW15c3MgU3QiO30=&pg=1)
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: lorna llan on Saturday 10 May 08 18:12 BST (UK)
Russell St West was in Blythswood, so that would fit in with being near Cambridge St. I have attached a litttle picture from the 1894 map showing how Cambridge St started at Sauchiehall St and ran up to New City Road, turning along the way. There is one little unnamed street on the map-maybe that is Russell St West or Wemyss Place?  It seems to be near a tram or underground station at Cowcaddens. Does that seem the same area you are thinking of?
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: ladybird on Saturday 10 May 08 21:27 BST (UK)
Thank you
That's helped me too.  ;D
My 3xgreat Grandma died at no.37 West Russell St, Blytheswood in 1856.
Sylvia
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: RJ_Paton on Saturday 10 May 08 22:40 BST (UK)
According to the 1893 map Russell Street and Wemyss Place were separate streets although Wemyss Place ran off of Russell Street.

The 1893 map places Russell Street north of and running parallel to Renfrew Street. it runs west from Hope Street to join Wemyss Place which ran northwards from Russell Street.

It would be this bit of the above map (near the Theatre Royal)
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: lorna llan on Saturday 10 May 08 22:55 BST (UK)
Thanks for that! It's an obscure little street. That family covered a lot of the map of Glasgow in their time.
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: Sabu on Friday 30 May 08 04:21 BST (UK)
This is most interesting for I have a relative who died at 37 West Russell St, in 1859 he was Affleck Kerr and for some reason I seem to think this may have been some kind of care facility. I have his death certificate and would like to compare names you may have.

Regards
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: ladybird on Friday 30 May 08 09:26 BST (UK)
Sabu
I've been googling "west Russell Street" and have come across another transcribed death at 36 West Russell St in 1855.
This is a young boy who died of a malignant disease of 3 months duration. So it looks as if you are right...a care facility or hospital.
Sylvia
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: ladybird on Friday 30 May 08 09:30 BST (UK)
...and another one
JEAN PATTISON, b. December 05, 1855, Blythswood, Glasgow, Lanark,
Scotland; d. December 12, 1855, 35 West Russell Street, Glasgow,
 ;D
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: RJ_Paton on Friday 30 May 08 11:07 BST (UK)
According to the 1893 map the street was residential with extremely closely packed tenement buildings there are no "care" facilities shown.
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: ladybird on Friday 30 May 08 11:12 BST (UK)
Oh blow! I thought we'd hit on something there  :-\
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: gaucho on Friday 30 May 08 17:13 BST (UK)
Hi,
looks residential. 1866 PO Directory (can be downloaded from Google books) lists a Finlay Cameron at number 37.
John
Title: Re: Where in Glasgow is Russell St West?
Post by: doddsie4 on Tuesday 26 February 19 22:18 GMT (UK)
      I think Russell St changed its name to Wemyss Street about 1928.     My grandfather lived at 5 Russell St in 1928, then at 11 Wemyss Street from 1928 to 1934.      He is on the Glasgow Electoral Registers.   

     My father (now dead) used to say they lived at Russell Street but there was a name change, and they were then living at Wemyss St.      Probably the name-change was 1928.